Powers & Abilities Is hardening supposed to be impressive?

[Erkan12]

Zoro’s swords are black when using hardening
He doesn’t need to use hardening to use srma

It’s about to be 2025 and people still arguing against hardening being visible

What is that pic saying basic CoA = invisible?

Even Zolo didn't use hardening while using advance invisible barrier CoA in fishman island.

Sentomaru still doesn't use hardening while using advance invisible barrier CoA.

Scabbards uses advance invisible CoA to cut Kaido as well, and its not hardening.

Hyogoro used advance CoA and his sword is not black hardening as well.

 

[BlackLegFring]

The sooner you learn to accept that Oda will always be inconsistent with Haki, the more peace of mind you will have

 

[Erkan12]

People who are saying Black CoA > Invisible CoA simply can't read.

Law literally says Kaido and BM's CoA is ''so strong'' he can't move them with teleportation, but we don't see any black CoA from them while Law was trying to teleport them:

Later Law uses the exact same type of ''so strong'' CoA Haki, and he doesn't use Black CoA as well:

Invisible CoA might be > Black CoA in different examples as we see above.

 

[Ven437]

BM Haki = Old Garp Haki prowess since they both hit flame Marco with invisible CoA

 

[Albino 👑]

Because fucking Kaido never used clear hardening and no way people think Charlotte Raisin CoA > Kaido CoA

And no more advanced armament doesn’t mean stronger armament than anyone that can’t do it. Marigold very obviously doesn’t have stronger armament than luffy or sanji

It’s also very much implied he can harden his club. Not my fault there isn’t a clear panel of sanji using hardening

 

[Camie]

Basic hardening isnt that impressive anymore. Now its all about if you can coat your attacks with conquerors. If not then you arent top tier.

 

[Cruxroux]

First of all there is barely any evidence of Invisible "CoA".
It only happened Initially in the show and manga when was relatively a new concept.
Since dressrosa I don't think so if we had any instance of Invisible CoA.

Hardening > Invisible or vice versa is simply dumb takes.

When two people use CoA , one with Stronger CoA , wins. That's all you gotta know.

 

[Salah WG]

Hardening is Advanced CoA Technique
Just like Future Sight is Advanced CoO Technique
And CoC Infusion is Advanced CoC Technique

Power has nothing to do with Haki Mastery
This isn't Hunter x Hunter or DBZ, you don't always need Haki to Bypass Haki

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro scarred Kaido with just hardening alone. So yes hardening is impressive

 

[Blax Blah]

Remember that some archers with hardening could easily beat pre timeskip Luffy, it does make a very big difference,

 

[zenox]

flowing haki is impressive since luffy had to specially learn that in udon
but something like hardening ur fists aint impressive at all

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Oda changed how coa was depicted from pre-skip to hardening for better visuals. But changed his mind and made the pre-skip coa advanced version of coa.

It is irrelevant at this point of this manga

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Because fucking Kaido never used clear hardening and no way people think Charlotte Raisin CoA > Kaido CoA

tbf his kanabo is always black so it's quite hard to see if he's using Armament but it can generally be assumed he is

 

[Sir Yasheen]

tbf his kanabo is always black so it's quite hard to see if he's using Armament but it can generally be assumed he is

Yeah but his body wasn’t, so are we to expect that Kaido wasn’t using CoA on any part of his body to block Luffys hits or anything?

I think differentiating the two is silly when it’s most commonly used as an artistic style, hell we see Oda draw the same scene one with black coa and one without in regards to Rayleigh.

 

[Roo]

anybody can harden, there's nothing impressive about that in of itself

the AP when using CoA is what matters, and how tf a black blade is made

 

[Rukusho]

We also need to remember haki is finite, using black haki uses more of your haki.

In certain circumstances it's smarter to not use it.

Let's make this simple.

Luffy buso koka haki > Luffy no buso koka haki.

 

[Roo]

Since dressrosa I don't think so if we had any instance of Invisible CoA.

this was just 1 arc ago lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

this was just 1 arc ago lol

Kizaru and Sentomaru too

 

[Cruxroux]

this was just 1 arc ago lol

First panel is of them is simply Stabbing him. Lol there's no haki there.

Second panel you cal literally see the Lightening around Luffy hand. Even if the Blackened wasn't shown , Another indicator which is lightening was used here.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

First panel is of them is simply Stabbing him. Lol there's no haki there.

Second panel you cal literally see the Lightening around Luffy hand. Even if the Blackened wasn't shown , Another indicator which is lightening was used here.

That’s CoC not CoA.


And do you think Kizaru never used CoA in Egghead?