Controversial The hijacking of western entertainment made for men
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Are you trying to say that because Obi acted with respect toward the murderer of Satine, therefore it denies the fact that Jedi have an unhealthy ideology ?
I personally don't find this to be bad thing.
I've played shitload of games, watched a lot of moves and tv shows, read plethora of books and manga and being inclusive brings more options to everything. However, it really falls down to ability of writers and directors to take that and transform it into smth good.
Star Wars with Rey was terrible, they tried making Rey a role model for new generation and yet no one gives a crap about Rey wheres Ahsoka Tano is received pretty damn well.
Now, I do agree there is an agenda in hollywood that hurts both women and men IMO, especially women characters and I fear that in future most networks and stuff will give up on female heroines bcs of it which would be terrible.
So in short, i dont think inclusivity is problem, i think bad writing is
I've played shitload of games, watched a lot of moves and tv shows, read plethora of books and manga and being inclusive brings more options to everything. However, it really falls down to ability of writers and directors to take that and transform it into smth good.
Star Wars with Rey was terrible, they tried making Rey a role model for new generation and yet no one gives a crap about Rey wheres Ahsoka Tano is received pretty damn well.
Now, I do agree there is an agenda in hollywood that hurts both women and men IMO, especially women characters and I fear that in future most networks and stuff will give up on female heroines bcs of it which would be terrible.
So in short, i dont think inclusivity is problem, i think bad writing is
So you are telling me that man have problem to control their emotion because of a jedi training ? Yeah... I can get that. That's why Jedi training needs to focus on emotions just as well as battles.
Yes, repressing the emotions can work to prevent emotion from bursting in, but they just create a pressure that risk to burst at any moment. On the long term, it's just unhealthy.
That's why the ideology of the jedi is flawed no matter what. Jedi do not need to repress their emotion, but to be able to deal with them.
Yes, repressing the emotions can work to prevent emotion from bursting in, but they just create a pressure that risk to burst at any moment. On the long term, it's just unhealthy.
That's why the ideology of the jedi is flawed no matter what. Jedi do not need to repress their emotion, but to be able to deal with them.
Both of them were taken in too late and weren't able to control their feelings. The jedi training had nothing to do with it. Besides both Anakin and Luke never cared about not getting attached, Luke perhaps didn't even know the jedi code that much but Anakin simply never cared, he should have never been a jedi in the first place.
The jedi invested in him what they invested in other jedis, hell they even made him the youngest councillor but that was not enough. Anakin was never a good jedi and shouldn't have been taken in.
The jedi invested in him what they invested in other jedis, hell they even made him the youngest councillor but that was not enough. Anakin was never a good jedi and shouldn't have been taken in.
He wasn't straight to them, he lashed at them like a little bitch for not making him a master, they didn't even know he needed access to the library because he was having bad dreams about his secret wife lol.
Mace even accepted him when he told them about Palps but he went there and saved the creepy Sith Lord because the retard thought he would save his wife lol.
Mace even accepted him when he told them about Palps but he went there and saved the creepy Sith Lord because the retard thought he would save his wife lol.
It has everything to do with that. Anaking didn't turn bad because he was bad. He turned bad because the grown men around them told him to shut down his feelings to be a more appreciated member of society... and this repressed feeling were used at the time against him by a sith lord to manipulate him.. at a moment where his mother was being tortured.
The jedi way had EVERYTHING to do with that. That's the point of the story of Anakin.
Luke, on the other hand had little to no education. His was constantly shut down by hiw oncle and forced to stay in place. The one jedi advice he had were made by two old man explaining him just how great and peacefull the jedi were.. that "there was not try" and the guy found out later the greatest jedi became the worst person in the Universe.
So yeah.. Luke, like Anakin were not trained to be good and yet Luke managed to control his feeling quite well because he had times to learn his own way.
Everything Anakin did was for the Jedi Code. Anakin was a former slave, he wanted one thing : to be recognized. Becoming a master was his purpose. So while he tried to do everything his own way, his was attached more than anyone to the jedi code and the ideology behind it. But the jedi way was so flawed that Anakin saw in it a way to gain power and not to be better.
It's the flaws of the jedi ideology that allowed Anakin (a rebel by nature) to bend it the way he wanted.
So when Windu choosed to strike down Palpatine, it made him switch in a moment. The jedi way was now on the side of Palpatine and not on the side of the jedi.
The jedi way had EVERYTHING to do with that. That's the point of the story of Anakin.
Luke, on the other hand had little to no education. His was constantly shut down by hiw oncle and forced to stay in place. The one jedi advice he had were made by two old man explaining him just how great and peacefull the jedi were.. that "there was not try" and the guy found out later the greatest jedi became the worst person in the Universe.
So yeah.. Luke, like Anakin were not trained to be good and yet Luke managed to control his feeling quite well because he had times to learn his own way.
Everything Anakin did was for the Jedi Code. Anakin was a former slave, he wanted one thing : to be recognized. Becoming a master was his purpose. So while he tried to do everything his own way, his was attached more than anyone to the jedi code and the ideology behind it. But the jedi way was so flawed that Anakin saw in it a way to gain power and not to be better.
It's the flaws of the jedi ideology that allowed Anakin (a rebel by nature) to bend it the way he wanted.
So when Windu choosed to strike down Palpatine, it made him switch in a moment. The jedi way was now on the side of Palpatine and not on the side of the jedi.
Anakin never gave any fuck about the jedi code and having to control his feelings, that's why he succumbed to the dark side. If Anakin misunderstood the code the fault lies in him, not the code. Serious jedis like Obi Wan and Ki Adi Mundi were able to control their feelings when their loved ones died, Anakin didn't even try.