Who did More to capture Garp?


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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Point stands he exposes your nonsense of FS being required to dodge TB and Big Mom not being able to compete with Kaido, same for Admirals
Yea cuz he supports whatever shit agenda you want.
You still have no answer.
When Luffy needed to use FS (and then some) to dodge the move, there isn't a single reason for Big Mom to dodge it or for any of the CoCless Power Rangers to do so either.

The only one who has shown the feats to do so... is Kizaru.
 
Yea cuz he supports whatever shit agenda you want.
You still have no answer.
When Luffy needed to use FS (and then some) to dodge the move, there isn't a single reason for Big Mom to dodge it or for any of the CoCless Power Rangers to do so either.

The only one who has shown the feats to do so... is Kizaru.
Nope. In fact. It's proof that someone like him who is opposed to my agendas so hard sees the lies in your agenda and exposes them which makes me confident.

Again. You generalise Luffy needing FS to dodge TB and pretend like it's a thing for everyone else. Big Mom has proven she can go toe to toe with Kaido and Kizaru is literally a CoCless Power ranger you fucking idiot.

Either Admirals are equal and all have baseline speed to match Kizaru or they aren't and my Akainu is on another tier agenda gets picked up again. Choose.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
You generalise Luffy needing FS to dodge TB and pretend like it's a thing for everyone else.
Yes. Pretending that Luffy alone will have different standards than the other top tiers is just cope.

Big Mom has proven she can go toe to toe with Kaido
She never dodged Thunder Bagua on panel.
Never showed the feats/abilities needed to do so.

Kizaru is literally a CoCless Power ranger you fucking idiot.
And he's the literal Light Man, the peak of speed in this verse you moron.

Either Admirals are equal and all have baseline speed to match Kizaru or they aren't and my Akainu is on another tier agenda gets picked up again. Choose.
Nothing to choose here.
Near equals in overall strength like what was portrayed.
While having different positives/negatives and abilities.

All Admirals have similar "Baseline Speed" is the biggest fucking load of crap.
It tells me that you have nothing, that Aokiji's on panel feats aren't enough and that you need to rely on some crazy "muh Admiral" headcanon to boost him.
It was retarded when the Yonkotards did it and you had no problem laughing at them. But now you lot do the same thing, can't separate fanboyism from being objective.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I don't care what agenda he has. Point stands he exposes your nonsense of FS being required to dodge TB and Big Mom not being able to compete with Kaido, same for Admirals.

The fuck are you saying. Blackbeard knew who the only person is that could potentially take Garp down, so it directly ends your Pissryu > Kuzan garbage. Old Garp didn't ragdoll shit. He was equalled by almost fruitless Kuzan in a punching contest whereas Kuzan still has the abilities that scarred Akainu. Old Garp is confirmed above Kaido and Mihawk and Kuzan can hand with him using a thin layer of ice and Coa 😂

Oda established that the fight between Kuzan and Garp would've gone the same way but Shiryu was simply a plot device to end it quicker.
Garp sent kuzan flying multiple times and beat the shit out him
One clash post stab doesn't make them equals
Nerfed garp STILL blitz him

Kuzan was only hurt by garp

Garp was hurt by multiple others
 
Now that Shanks has destroyed Bartholomeo. How will Luffy react to it ? Shanks has taught luffy to go on war if anyone hurts their friends.
It will be interesting Shanks vs Luffy.

But I doubt Luffy has guts to raise his voice against Shanks whom he admires so much 🤔🧐🤔

May be there is some twist to this whole scene.

Also Grandpa has been captured.
Luffy is busy with his own adventures.
 
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