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I think Soul needs to recognize he has a penchant for crying at boundaries he himself goes far beyond, he has no qualm with either rolespec or angleshooting clearly. It's hard not to scum read him because he's extremely disingenuous.
Problem with him being scum is he would have been detracting from Polar to go to Yoho later in the day for example, which is a really hard sell. Also think in general, his pushes/play lean more to being genuine scumhunting with maybe a dash of widening the PoE.

Out of interest, who did you say your character was btw Ultra?
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I don't love defending Soul to this extent as well because I do accept the arguments against him, but it's so hard to get there across everyone else. I think I will just settle on Ekko/Watson/Red Night/York being Town, and more or less Ultra being town, and if one has beat me there then so be it. Soul is my Serial pick. Leaving Mango/Orca/Reloaded.
 
I think Soul needs to recognize he has a penchant for crying at boundaries he himself goes far beyond, he has no qualm with either rolespec or angleshooting clearly. It's hard not to scum read him because he's extremely disingenuous.
There is big difference between looking at rolespecs from other games to familarize yourself, and using it as a sole reason on why I am somehow here scum because of it. You don't seem to grasp the situation at hand, and don't understand that doing that as townie is gamethrowing cause I know I am not what you claim I am to be because of rolespec.

I am not going out over any boundaries, I am pointing out a clear pattern that is hard for me to ignore because it happened more times than I can count. You are making it seem like I am angle shooting here when that is not the case. It's a pattern I observed over many mafia games. Which mind you gave a chance for watson to play, but she did not do any favors to his slot either.

No one is being disgenuous here, it's you who is being dense as hell and comparing my situation and yours as the same, and then acting like you are in some higher moral ground here. Give me a break really. You are the one who is going out of the game and trying to solve this game based on other games rolesheets here. Like you can't be this delusional can you?
 
I don't love defending Soul to this extent as well because I do accept the arguments against him, but it's so hard to get there across everyone else. I think I will just settle on Ekko/Watson/Red Night/York being Town, and more or less Ultra being town, and if one has beat me there then so be it. Soul is my Serial pick. Leaving Mango/Orca/Reloaded.
Who is serial in your humble opinion if it's not me? or if not kiku? Listen, I am not serial here. I don't know what to tell you. Anyways. Just want you to sit back and think on it. You have all the time in the world.
 
Problem with him being scum is he would have been detracting from Polar to go to Yoho later in the day for example, which is a really hard sell. Also think in general, his pushes/play lean more to being genuine scumhunting with maybe a dash of widening the PoE.

Out of interest, who did you say your character was btw Ultra?
Admiral Ackbar
 
I don't love defending Soul to this extent as well because I do accept the arguments against him, but it's so hard to get there across everyone else. I think I will just settle on Ekko/Watson/Red Night/York being Town, and more or less Ultra being town, and if one has beat me there then so be it. Soul is my Serial pick. Leaving Mango/Orca/Reloaded.
Ratchet, geniune question. Do you think I am serial killer here because of my role having NC and because it's similar to a role ultra pointed out in other game that happened?
 
There is big difference between looking at rolespecs from other games to familarize yourself, and using it as a sole reason on why I am somehow here scum because of it. You don't seem to grasp the situation at hand, and don't understand that doing that as townie is gamethrowing cause I know I am not what you claim I am to be because of rolespec.

I am not going out over any boundaries, I am pointing out a clear pattern that is hard for me to ignore because it happened more times than I can count. You are making it seem like I am angle shooting here when that is not the case. It's a pattern I observed over many mafia games. Which mind you gave a chance for watson to play, but she did not do any favors to his slot either.

No one is being disgenuous here, it's you who is being dense as hell and comparing my situation and yours as the same, and then acting like you are in some higher moral ground here. Give me a break really. You are the one who is going out of the game and trying to solve this game based on other games rolesheets here. Like you can't be this delusional can you?
I'm gonna put the brakes on here and say you need to stop accusing me of gamethrowing, saying I'm not playing the game, etc. because I suspect you. This is just about as pathetic as it gets, there's no need to drag the game into the mud. It's insufferable playing with someone who cries foul as much as you do.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Ratchet, geniune question. Do you think I am serial killer here because of my role having NC and because it's similar to a role ultra pointed out in other game that happened?
That in part, but I think a lot of your play can be reconciled as Serial quite easily. Your frustration with Fuji. Your reluctance to clear the slot, while still having a focus on killing scum. The kill choices, to an extent. I actually suspect Kiku a little more on the basis of being a serial, because Leia isn't really setting the world on fire. But I don't have a good reason for your neighbour chat to work as it does either, and I do think Vader is likely a serial killer here.
 
I'm gonna put the brakes on here and say you need to stop accusing me of gamethrowing, saying I'm not playing the game, etc. because I suspect you. This is just about as pathetic as it gets, there's no need to drag the game into the mud. It's insufferable playing with someone who cries foul as much as you do.
You again taking, taking things out of context here, I am not saying you are gamethrowing as town because you suspect me. Stop picking and choosing what you read here. Rolespeccing and stamping the person as scum because of it is wrong, and yes if done as sole purpose is gamethrowy because you ain't using the game to solve. You are basically grabbing chemistry exam answer questions to answer a math exam question. This play of yours makes no sense as townie.

You know what Ultra, you are right. Gonna put the break here because it is a waste of time arguing with you here. You claim I am insufferable, but you can't seem to see how insffuerable you can be, you know exactly what you are doing with some of your posts. Like sure, I am a stubborn bastard and will keep going, but you ain't any better. If I am dragging the game into the mud according to you, then you are clearly just doing the same.
 
D3, VC 6
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WAGONS
(6 votes needed for hammer)

MangoSenpai - 3
Mr. Reloaded - 2
The Orca - 1
Emil - 1

Wagon closest to hammer (highest one reached first) this day so far: Mr. Reloaded at 3.

VOTING HISTORY

Ultra: Mr. Reloaded > unvote > MangoSenpai
SoulKiller: The Orca
Emil: MangoSenpai > Mr. Reloaded > MangoSenpai
York: York > unvote
Mr. Reloaded: MangoSenpai
Alexis2282AE: Mr. Reloaded
MangoSenpai: Dr. Watson > Emil > SoulKiller > unvote > Mr.Reloaded
The Orca: Emil

HASN'T VOTED YET

Dr. Watson
Red Night
Ratchet (stump)

QUOTES (new ones)


TAGS

@Lord Melkor@Alexis2282AE @Dr. Watson @The Orca @Ratchet @SoulKiller @Emil @York @MangoSenpai @Red Night @Ultra @Mr. Reloaded

This VC presents true vote power (unless it's supposed to be a secret, if any).​
 
D3, VC 6
up to post #3,492


WAGONS
(6 votes needed for hammer)

MangoSenpai - 3
Mr. Reloaded - 2
The Orca - 1
Emil - 1

Wagon closest to hammer (highest one reached first) this day so far: Mr. Reloaded at 3.

VOTING HISTORY

Ultra: Mr. Reloaded > unvote > MangoSenpai
SoulKiller: The Orca
Emil: MangoSenpai > Mr. Reloaded > MangoSenpai
York: York > unvote
Mr. Reloaded: MangoSenpai
Alexis2282AE: Mr. Reloaded
MangoSenpai: Dr. Watson > Emil > SoulKiller > unvote > Mr.Reloaded
The Orca: Emil

HASN'T VOTED YET

Dr. Watson
Red Night
Ratchet (stump)

QUOTES (new ones)


TAGS

@Lord Melkor@Alexis2282AE @Dr. Watson @The Orca @Ratchet @SoulKiller @Emil @York @MangoSenpai @Red Night @Ultra @Mr. Reloaded

This VC presents true vote power (unless it's supposed to be a secret, if any).​
@The Orca why are you voting Emil here and not ultra if you believe that Ultra is 90% scum?
 
Yoho semi right
Polar right
Indigo wrong
Ratchet wrong
Naomi right
Watson semi wrong

Whoever shot Cake twice before I could talk with her.....I will get you

1. Alexis2282AE
3. Fujishiro
5. The Orca
9. SoulKiller

10. Emil
11. York
12. MangoSenpai
13. Red Night
14. Ultra

16. Mr. Reloaded
Between you and Mango I like him more lol. Neither of you feel town. Gonna be the contrarian I guess
He lists Emil as orange and Mango as Red in his reads list but then says between the two he would vote Ekko lol
 
The vote placement on ekko also seems random and out of nowhere.




Dude just casually place a vote and called it a day without elaborating when he apparently 3 other players in red here who are scummier than ekko.
At the time of the vote placement, ekko and mango were kinda discussing how similar their roles are etc, could that be reason to place vote on ekko at the time??? but this is weird, because mango also does not look good by claiming such role too, so why go for emil over mango who orca scum read more here? Makes you ponder here. Did orca somehow trying to save his mate in mango???
 
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