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EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
i am a chronic imbecile

see you post game, looking forward to being trashed on
its not even that its just... nvm

u realize reloady shud be basically outed scum now with mango's flip, right? in fact im skeptical about rednight choosing him for a target, and im even more concerned about how rednight or you wasnt blocked in any capacity
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Anyway, Watson probably Town I guess from how she's responding to Ekko.

I can probably make a good argument for most of the remaining players being scum which isn't exactly a great sign. Think best bet is Reloaded and then maybe Ultra after him. The kill on York feels like it's to set up Soul, that could be a few layers of WIFOM though.
 

Ratchet

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you've got to be foken trolling at this point

i literally walked you up to it yesterday
I honestly feel you on this. It's like you're not just leading the horse to water, you're strapping a water bottle to their mouth and she still doesn't drink. It would honestly be a lot easier if she was just scum, and part of me is tempted to go there. Fuji would have a lot of explaining to do post game and she would have basically burned her AtE card for good, but it's really hard to defend.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
"Watson is probably Town because she probably doesn't respond to Ekko like that as scum"
"But Ekko is right that the action usage is very suboptimal and he went over this yesterday to avoid exactly this, and got ignored for his efforts, so he has a right to be pretty pissed at it"
"Fuck you Ratchet"

Like... what are we doing here. I'm criticising the role usage specifically because you were told who to target, ignored that, and then picked something suboptimal anyway. And because this is Mafia, I don't have your role sheet, so I have to at least question my read (that I've had since Day 1 on your slot) because of the above.

A watcher is a pseudo protective role. The idea is that you watch targets who you think are likely to be killed, so that you can catch who kills them. There are some scenarios where watching scum suspects can be optimal, but generally it's not the intended use. Trackers are the ones that you want to target scum suspects with, to see if you can catch them doing something scummy. I don't blame you for not Watching York, but given that she was being affected by something unexplainable, it would have been one of the better targets. And in this case, it may have outed who killed her.

I don't feel like criticism itself needs to be met with "fuck off". I'm saying it now, I'm not going to take you over the coals for it post game because by then, the die is cast and the game decided. Q
 

Ratchet

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I'm tired of this subtle yet vicious undertone from you

But I do apologize for exploding
This is entirely you projecting your image of me, onto me, and has absolutely nothing to do with me or anything I've done or said. Subtle but vicious... like come on.

Can I be cranky? Yep, I sure can. But when have I ever just ripped into someone brutally for a mistake? There probably have been times where I've asked "wtf are you doing", but I generally always explain what the issue is, why it's an issue, and how to correct it for next time. I only get genuinely annoyed at people when that's met with disinterest or dismissal. And I just get this image of me projected back at me for what I consider to be speaking normally.

I've seen people give FAR worse in this game alone, and it's crickets when it comes to them. But somehow because it's me, I must just be horrible and vicious. You know, I'd understand if someone like Naomi had this impression of me because I actually have blown up at her before. I apologised for that but I could not hold it against her if that impression lingered. I've literally never ever ripped into Watson before, every time it's been "no, I don't dislike you/dislike playing with you/find you a PITA" and still this is how charitable my responses are taken. It's exhausting.

Anyway, back to the game. If I take Ekko/Watson away I'm left with Red Night, Reloaded, SoulKiller, Ultra, Orca and Alexis.

From there, I'll take Alexis out. Probably Red Night too just because I don't see how we ly ch him in time if he's scum. Which leaves

Ultra
Soul
Orca
Reloaded

There should be 2-3 non-town in that list. Now it could just be Orca/Reloaded but that doesn't really line up to me. In all cases I don't see how we get around without lynching Reloaded so it might just have to be him. Then, I think I'd lynch Ultra before Orca if Reloaded flips Mafia. We can reasonably assume that there is scum between them anyway.
 
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