[FNZ] Role Madness Star Wars OT - Game Thread

[The Orca]

So
Ultra says cheating
Watson says playstyle
Poyser? says living situation
Ultra brings all this here
Ral says don't bring OLF into this despite it being directly from OLF mods/administration


Ultra says we have the same IP address and live in the same house and are in the same room, and are brothers, and are twins

Watson says Ultra doesn't have access to that info, I think the IP address

Ratchet says actually he does

Ral says so what its only city level data location (what if we lived next to each other?)

Ultra, Poyser, and Watson say actually we have known most of this since D1

Can you all understand why I'm so pissed off?

And not one person, Ultra, Poyser, Ral, Watson, etc...messaged us privately to ask or discuss anything before taking action with them calling us cheaters without evidence

I mean you don't have to agree with or support me in any way, but I hope my frustration, attitude, and being straight upset, hurt, mad, and pissed off is understandable

 

[AL sama]

stop his drama bruh this isn't OLF

if we think something is off here we'll take action

 

[Fujishiro]

stop his drama bruh this isn't OLF

if we think something is off here we'll take action

Join my game bitch.

 

[AL sama]

Join my game bitch.

no time and m done with mafia for good

 

[Fujishiro]

no time and m done with mafia for good

:( :( :3 ;-; We miss you.

 

[RippedCal]

Yo

So
Ultra says cheating
Watson says playstyle
Poyser? says living situation
Ultra brings all this here
Ral says don't bring OLF into this despite it being directly from OLF mods/administration


Ultra says we have the same IP address and live in the same house and are in the same room, and are brothers, and are twins

Watson says Ultra doesn't have access to that info, I think the IP address

Ratchet says actually he does

Ral says so what its only city level data location (what if we lived next to each other?)

Ultra, Poyser, and Watson say actually we have known most of this since D1

Can you all understand why I'm so pissed off?

And not one person, Ultra, Poyser, Ral, Watson, etc...messaged us privately to ask or discuss anything before taking action with them calling us cheaters without evidence

I mean you don't have to agree with or support me in any way, but I hope my frustration, attitude, and being straight upset, hurt, mad, and pissed off is understandable

Can you condense this into like a sentence or something

 

[Ratchet]

Going to put a pin in this discussion now. Most of this is not at all relevant to Worstgen.

Going forward, this sort of thing is not welcome here. I don't want to see this getting brought up in every game - in this case, if Ultra and Polar/Orca are to co-exist in games together, they're to do so without antagonising the other side. If there is antagonism, then whomever is promoting that will be removed from the game. I don't want to hear about this any more and I don't want to see it anymore - as far as this site is concerned, Orca and Polar are treated as separate entities within games here, and that's where the discussion ends. If you have an issue with them, or suspect them, then you're going to have to deal with that yourself - it does not belong in the games. There's going to be a degree of trial and error as to where the line gets drawn here, but this is the last I want to see of this topic.

As for warnings here - @SoulKiller is given a warning and a strike for his conduct in the game towards another player.

No warnings or strikes for activity, but I do advise that players who have been on the poorer end of this scale look to improve this soon, because if this is repeated by certain players it's going to go straight to strikes. By signing up you're expected to adhere to the activity requirements.

Spoiler

Players:
1. @Alexis2282AE
2. @Yoho
3. @Fujishiro
4. @Polar Bear
5. @The Orca
6. @Indigo
7. @Ratchet
8. @Naomi
9. @SoulKiller
10. @Emil
11. @York
12. @MangoSenpai
13. @Red Night
14. @Ultra
15. @Dr. Watson
16. @Mr. Reloaded
@CakeWalker

 

[MangoSenpai]

Ratchet clanks the opposition

*Super Smash Bros. Theme song plays*

 

[Mashiro Blue]

The logical conclusion

 

[hime]

reading drama is so much more fun than being involved

 

[Ral]

You're not going to be allowed to play together in ranked. Allowing people to play from the same household requires good faith to be given my the players/hosts towards you and due to your actions and inability to talk about the concerns like normal people, you have no good faith. We extended it to you both when you first joined, despite knowing you lived together and you both destroyed it so that's that. You're not playing together in ranked

And btw, flower is wrong. To hydra, you can both post on your own accounts. You'll just be considered 1 slot.

This is a prime example of a player outside of OLF seeing the same thing happening here, so I don’t really consider it spite if even people I don’t know are seeing the same shit we are lol.

Yo


Can you condense this into like a sentence or something

Beef, beef, and lots of corn… or maybe some beef without the broccoli, idk anymore tbh :(

stop his drama bruh this isn't OLF

if we think something is off here we'll take action

No one said this was OLF. OLF was brought into the discussion because two players decided to use my forum negatively as a way to defend themselves. We have a partnership, do we not? So, respect should be given on both ends, which hasn’t been the case for quite some time now. Ultra also has every right to be upset and speak his mind, because the shit with Orca/Polar has gone on far enough, and they’re dragging others with them, which isn’t cool.

Going forward, I agree with taking action through the report functionality, but tbh, I don’t see this situation ending well for either party involved. You’d also have to play a few games with these two players to truly understand why people feel the way they do about their playstyle.

Ultimately, I’d prefer if players kept a record of any suspected cheating or rule-breaking and brought it to the attention of section staff. If you need a recap of how we got here and why I ended up posting in this thread, I can spend some time providing that info. It's the least I can do. You also have to understand this isn’t just one user blasting another. This issue spans multiple forums now and hasn’t just been noticed by the same players either.

If y'all want two players who live in the same household to play the same game together, it's whatever. Y'all do what y'all gotta do, but as far as OLF is concerned, I won’t allow it unless the host permits a hydra setup.

Going to put a pin in this discussion now. Most of this is not at all relevant to Worstgen.

Going forward, this sort of thing is not welcome here. I don't want to see this getting brought up in every game - in this case, if Ultra and Polar/Orca are to co-exist in games together, they're to do so without antagonising the other side. If there is antagonism, then whomever is promoting that will be removed from the game. I don't want to hear about this any more and I don't want to see it anymore - as far as this site is concerned, Orca and Polar are treated as separate entities within games here, and that's where the discussion ends. If you have an issue with them, or suspect them, then you're going to have to deal with that yourself - it does not belong in the games. There's going to be a degree of trial and error as to where the line gets drawn here, but this is the last I want to see of this topic.

As for warnings here - @SoulKiller is given a warning and a strike for his conduct in the game towards another player.

No warnings or strikes for activity, but I do advise that players who have been on the poorer end of this scale look to improve this soon, because if this is repeated by certain players it's going to go straight to strikes. By signing up you're expected to adhere to the activity requirements.

Spoiler

Players:
1. @Alexis2282AE
2. @Yoho
3. @Fujishiro
4. @Polar Bear
5. @The Orca
6. @Indigo
7. @Ratchet
8. @Naomi
9. @SoulKiller
10. @Emil
11. @York
12. @MangoSenpai
13. @Red Night
14. @Ultra
15. @Dr. Watson
16. @Mr. Reloaded
@CakeWalker

I’d also appreciate it if the shittalk about OLF would cease, cause it’s getting pretty tiring tbh lol. The only reason I decided to post in this thread was because I heard Orca/Polar were talking shit about OLF, and I didn’t really appreciate that, especially when others had to flag me down to tell me. But yes, as you said, this is a totally separate forum, and this section is run entirely differently from how it is on OLF. Plus, it should be at the host’s discretion to allow a hydra setup.

You should know how I roll by now, Ratchet. I'm pretty lenient until someone decides to take advantage of my kindness, and we end up in a situation like what unfortunately happened post-game here. This has been a lot of pent-up frustration, and I’d really like to squash it before it gets to the point where our forum partnership turns into something fueled by pure spite.

To keep our partnership between here and OLF strong, and to show a sign of good faith, I’ve already reached out to Orca via PM and asked that he respond to @Dr. Watson's OP, and we’ll take things from there. He said he’ll respond as soon as he’s calmed down, but he’s also said that before in the same PM earlier last month, so I don’t really have any good faith left that he’ll actually follow through. It’s almost like he’s purposely ducking it, so we’ll see where that convo leads once he finally decides to respond. Otherwise, @Ultra, myself, and others involved in this situation will step back, follow the rules, and move on.

 

[Ral]

reading drama is so much more fun than being involved

Damn skippy

 

[Saber]

@Mr. Reloaded when will you create the trial thread for polar and orca?
the arctic turnabout

 

[AL sama]

No one said this was OLF. OLF was brought into the discussion because two players decided to use my forum negatively as a way to defend themselves. We have a partnership, do we not? So, respect should be given on both ends, which hasn’t been the case for quite some time now. Ultra also has every right to be upset and speak his mind, because the shit with Orca/Polar has gone on far enough, and they’re dragging others with them, which isn’t cool.

Going forward, I agree with taking action through the report functionality, but tbh, I don’t see this situation ending well for either party involved. You’d also have to play a few games with these two players to truly understand why people feel the way they do about their playstyle.

Ultimately, I’d prefer if players kept a record of any suspected cheating or rule-breaking and brought it to the attention of section staff. If you need a recap of how we got here and why I ended up posting in this thread, I can spend some time providing that info. It's the least I can do. You also have to understand this isn’t just one user blasting another. This issue spans multiple forums now and hasn’t just been noticed by the same players either.

If y'all want two players who live in the same household to play the same game together, it's whatever. Y'all do what y'all gotta do, but as far as OLF is concerned, I won’t allow it unless the host permits a hydra setup.

I think you're misinterpreting me but let's just stop and we'll do what's needed to be done

 

[Ral]

I think you're misinterpreting me but let's just stop and we'll do what's needed to be done

I’m sorry if I misunderstood your intentions, and I appreciate your patience. Ultimately, I'm here to support whatever we decide is the best course of action here. Once again, I apologize for throwing hands in this thread, but it needed to be said, and I hope we can all move on from this drama, as many have indicated they want to do already.

As a sign of good faith, if any of y'all need a co-host for a game you plan to host here, I'm with it, and ready to lock-in! I didn’t do too good of a job recently with the unfortunate quick-ending game on OLF, but I want the experience because I’ve been working on a Mafioso addon, and I’m still unsure what tools hosts need to run games more smoothly, outside of a VC and whatever features will help hosts run games more efficiently.

Holla if ya need me!

 

[The Orca]

This is a prime example of a player outside of OLF seeing the same thing happening here, so I don’t really consider it spite if even people I don’t know are seeing the same shit we are lol.



Beef, beef, and lots of corn… or maybe some beef without the broccoli, idk anymore tbh :(


No one said this was OLF. OLF was brought into the discussion because two players decided to use my forum negatively as a way to defend themselves. We have a partnership, do we not? So, respect should be given on both ends, which hasn’t been the case for quite some time now. Ultra also has every right to be upset and speak his mind, because the shit with Orca/Polar has gone on far enough, and they’re dragging others with them, which isn’t cool.

Going forward, I agree with taking action through the report functionality, but tbh, I don’t see this situation ending well for either party involved. You’d also have to play a few games with these two players to truly understand why people feel the way they do about their playstyle.

Ultimately, I’d prefer if players kept a record of any suspected cheating or rule-breaking and brought it to the attention of section staff. If you need a recap of how we got here and why I ended up posting in this thread, I can spend some time providing that info. It's the least I can do. You also have to understand this isn’t just one user blasting another. This issue spans multiple forums now and hasn’t just been noticed by the same players either.

If y'all want two players who live in the same household to play the same game together, it's whatever. Y'all do what y'all gotta do, but as far as OLF is concerned, I won’t allow it unless the host permits a hydra setup.



I’d also appreciate it if the shittalk about OLF would cease, cause it’s getting pretty tiring tbh lol. The only reason I decided to post in this thread was because I heard Orca/Polar were talking shit about OLF, and I didn’t really appreciate that, especially when others had to flag me down to tell me. But yes, as you said, this is a totally separate forum, and this section is run entirely differently from how it is on OLF. Plus, it should be at the host’s discretion to allow a hydra setup.

You should know how I roll by now, Ratchet. I'm pretty lenient until someone decides to take advantage of my kindness, and we end up in a situation like what unfortunately happened post-game here. This has been a lot of pent-up frustration, and I’d really like to squash it before it gets to the point where our forum partnership turns into something fueled by pure spite.

To keep our partnership between here and OLF strong, and to show a sign of good faith, I’ve already reached out to Orca via PM and asked that he respond to @Dr. Watson's OP, and we’ll take things from there. He said he’ll respond as soon as he’s calmed down, but he’s also said that before in the same PM earlier last month, so I don’t really have any good faith left that he’ll actually follow through. It’s almost like he’s purposely ducking it, so we’ll see where that convo leads once he finally decides to respond. Otherwise, @Ultra, myself, and others involved in this situation will step back, follow the rules, and move on.

How can I have a conversation with you when you are still lying and still making shit up. Ultra was 100% the one who brought this shit here and keep bringing it up over what the last 2 months. No doubt about it. And EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. Your fucking "employee" went here to start this here. Even after he was told what the decision here is. Not me, not Polar. I'd appreciate if you stop attacking my character and saying I used up good faith when I wasn't needing to use good faith. I haven't done anying wrong

You are noticing randomness and coincidence and assuming it is cheating because you and others are bad people. If I wanted to cheat I'd use a fucking VPN or the like and cheat until my heart is content. There are so many ways and easier ways to cheat and they are all WRONG

You have your preconceived assumptions that are wrong and are looking for anything that seems weird. Shit happens. If I was going to cheat why would I call it out on myself and make it obvious. You all think we are savant cheaters, doing it openly, but you have no evidence. WTF. IT ISNT HAPPENING

STOP IT. YOU MOTHER FUCKING ASSHOLES

I'm not suppose to respond and I apologize to this board for doing so, but I will not and am not going to let you or Ultra, or Watson, or Poyser, or ANYONE call me a cheater or insinuate I am cheating for something I haven't done or will do or isn't cheating

I will talk shit and say shit about anyone and whatever site I want as long as it is coming at me first. I am a reactionary person. I won't start shit but I sure as hell will finish it. You want shit to stop, grow a pair and put a stop to Ultra and anyone from your board (especially "employees") from coming here or elsewhere saying shit and starting shit. See how that works...you and your staff have the responsibility, but let Ultra go unchecked for months. Watson knew and let him continue. You all have had the capacity to not have this spread but you all made yet another terrible stupid decision and this is where we are

If I have time today I'll jump in that PM with you and Watson, but you aren't impartial, open minded, or acting in good faith, AT ALL. I would suggest finding a neutral party to add but thats your choice

Also, why? I'm going to talk to you all but why? You have made it clear your mind is made up. What do I get out of it? Thats right, I'm not FUCKING CHEATING. So to limit posts here I'm going to do it as well because its the respectful thing to do, something you all have no concept of, NONE

I truly am sorry @Ratchet. This stuff has to be countered or it just sits as a lie and people start believing lies and I won't take it

 

[Ratchet]

I think that's enough, closing this thread off. If people have more things they need to say, they can do it privately to the people it affects, no reason to continue it here. The line here going forward is as I mentioned - anyone bringing this discussion into games or post games or whatever is going to be taken out of games. I expect players to exercise their own judgement - if one can't co-exist with someone without bringing drama into it, then don't play with them.