Break Week What is the secret behind kokutos?

[BornInAbyss]

Given that they‘re extremely rare, even more than ACoC users… what exactly is the secret key ingridient of creating such a sword in the first place?

It can‘t be CoA since CoA is nothing special in the new world. And if that was the case we already would have much more kokutos to begin with.

Even ACoC might not be the case, since none of the known ACoC User were able to create a kokuto.

There must be a special ingridient in order to create a kokuto. Maybe a combination of extreme CoA, ACoC and excellent swordplay experience. Like a trinity force. That would explain why almost no one was able to forge a black blade.

What are your guesses?

 

[NikaInParis]

A combination of haki and another factor we don't know yet. Could be something already present in the story or introduced to us during the forging process.

 

[MarineHQ]

Ask the Gigabull

 

[park_min young]

Racism

 

[Dragon777]

That is probably a mix of things.

Incredible CoA is a given. We know Zoro is specialized in CoA so it's probable that Oda wants to give him an area in which he can be even better than Luffy. Probably to forge a sword black you need to have an almost unique level of CoA that not even Roger o WB, being mostly CoC specialist, had.
Then maybe CoC (but it isn't the main facor, if not Roger or Shanks would have had one) and maybe some special connection with the sword.

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Racism

The irony of having the sword black then lol.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Coa

Coa is the haki type that makes weapons and stuff black in the first place. Even temporarily.
So it's common sense that it's coa's highest level that would make kokutos

And the haki type zoro is most proficient in is also coa


Probably has some other extra condition like loving your sword very much or something

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

COA/hardening proficiency like it was suggested in the manga.
Anything else is baseless headcanon

 

[Dragon777]

Coa

Coa is the haki type that makes weapons and stuff black in the first place. Even temporarily.
So it's common sense that it's coa's highest level that would make kokutos

And the haki type zoro is most proficient in is also coa


Probably has some other extra condition like loving your sword very much or something

Even though there might be more. I am fine with Roger not having enough CoA since he was a CoC expert, but still.

 

[mly90]

Usual suspects denying any CoC involvement in forging a kokuto lmao because they know that would bury all their snitch hype
To forge a kokuto you need to take all 3 haki to the highest level. Loda had Zoro awaken adcoc in wano and he already specializes in coa Mihawk previous epithet was clairvoyant. Which is why bums like twerkbull having a kokuto is out of the question pure delusions

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Racism

Then Zoro should be able to make one easily

 

[Garp the Fist]

Looking at the sword lore we got in Wano (that I recall)

It’s forged in battle, and Zoro has a suspicion about where the colour comes from. I think that means that continuous use of Hardening in multiple battles is at least one ingredient

It’s up to the swordsman to make the sword a black blade. This increases it’s quality. Oden obviously failed to do it with Enma, despite him being a very gifted swordsman who could use both Hakis.

Swords are made primarily to kill. They are also in a sense alive, and need to mastered by their wielder.

Cursed swords aren’t cursed, they are just fucking good at killing and that’s why the weak fear them.

Swords can see into and judge a person. They want to be used.

They are also not tricky. They are quite straightforward.

Enma’s method of testing it to drag every bit of Haki out of a person, and put their life on the line.

I don’t think it’s quite as simple as amazing Haki = black blade. Which would be why people like Roger, Shanks, Ray, Whitebeard failed. Seems more of a symbiotic relationship.

It’s all sounding a bit the King and his Horse, moving on to the Blade is Me, for the Bleach fans in the audience. Think Zoro and his swords need to, through multiple death battles where Zoro is pumping all his Haki (in other words, his will and ambition) into his swords, for Zoro and his swords both to be almost in tandem in thought and purpose, but with Zoro in the driving seat having mastered them. Through in the breath of all things as well, for Zoro’s purpose going through to the swords.

 

[gz89]

I like the sacrifice theory but if thats a requirement Zori not gonna get one.

I think beside haki you may need to unite your soul to your sword or some shit.

 

[Dragon777]

Looking at the sword lore we got in Wano (that I recall)
I don’t think it’s quite as simple as amazing Haki = black blade. Which would be why people like Roger, Shanks, Ray, Whitebeard failed. Seems more of a symbiotic relationship.

Good post and I overall agree, but I think having a superior level of CoA is part of it. It's telling Zoro is specialized in CoA:

Roger or WB were probably more versed in CoC, even if they surely had beyond great CoA.

 

[Dragon777]

Usual suspects denying any CoC involvement in forging a kokuto lmao because they know that would bury all their snitch hype
To forge a kokuto you need to take all 3 haki to the highest level. Loda had Zoro awaken adcoc in wano and he already specializes in coa Mihawk previous epithet was clairvoyant. Which is why bums like twerkbull having a kokuto is out of the question pure delusions

Noted that after Fuji high top tier because he wields a Saijo, Ryokugyu is a certified CoC user for the BB even for you when Oda will finally spell it out or show the BB again

 

[BigAmmi]

 

[mly90]

Noted that after Fuji high top tier because he wields a Saijo, Ryokugyu is a certified CoC user for the BB even for you when Oda will finally spell it out or show the BB again

I was actually pleased when the vc revealed fuji to be saijo user that man has been reliant on his sword and df abilities from first time saw him. Twerkbull on other hand has been pure df merchant sorry i can't place him with likes Ryuma and Mihawk. Those two surpass every saijo users in the series with their kokuto they forged reaching the very top

 

[Dragon777]

I was actually pleased when the vc revealed fuji to be saijo user that man has been reliant on his sword and df abilities from first time saw him. Twerkbull on other hand has been pure df merchant sorry i can't place him with likes Ryuma and Mihawk. Those two surpass every saijo users in the series with their kokuto they forged reaching the very top

Ryo's real soul is that of swordsman, like Gennai Aramaki.

Anyway, we'll see, hope sooner than later, and the we'll know.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

You need to close the sword in a room for one month blasting rap music at it non-stop.

 

[nik87]

You need to combine Color of Conquerors - RED,
with Color of Armament - BLUE,
and Color of Observation - YELLOW.
Those 3 colors make Black Color. Then you paint the sword Black.

 

[mly90]

You need to combine Color of Conquerors - RED,
with Color of Armament - BLUE,
and Color of Observation - YELLOW.
Those 3 colors make Black Color. Then you paint the sword Black.

With every haki growth from marimo it further solidifies how big of a role it plays in forging a kokuto
He was taught CoA by Mihawk if that was all he needed there would be no need for him awaken coc and on top of that master adcoc in wano. Everything Zoro learns will help him inch closer to a kokuto so if in elbaf he takes his CoO to the next level that seals it. Zoro would have advanced in all 3 haki types so how do you even lie or cope around it's only CoA related
Mihawk haters aka rat fandom/admiral twerkers have dug their own graves