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You guyz won't believe this, but the left coalition is the one who actually won the elections.
You guyz won't believe this, but Macron came from the sos-dem left (parti socialiste) and was elected by "progressive centrists" to counter the far right (his words), then said that he was neither left nor right, then said that he was a pragmatic and a rationnal, then proposed far right reforms, then after a lot of anti-social reforms he dissolved the assemblee after the win of the far right in the europpean election to get them in power and ridiculize them (it didn't work, the left won the election), then proceeded to ignore the result of the election and elected a far right prime minister
You guyz won't believe this, but this so called "unifer" prime minister was actually against the decriminalization of homosexuality in the 70's.
You guyz won't believe this, but among this "unifying" governement, there are no leftists, a majority of neo-liberals rightists (close to conservatists) close to Macron and a LOT of conservatist or far rightist/conservatist
You guyz won't believe this, but a LOT of ministers are actually against LGBTQI+ rights:
- M Bregeon sees pregnant trans men as a problem
- B. Retailleau voted AGAINST the prohibition of conversion therapies (a form torture to make a person non LGBT), he also voted against the right of abortion and an anti-trans law
- L. Garnier voted AGAINST the prohibition of conversion therapies, against same sex union, against the constitutionalization of abortion, and cosigned an anti-trans law
- P. Hetzel voted against the abortion, against MAP for all (Edit : medical assisted procreation), against same sex-union
- A. Genevard voted against the constitutionalization of abortion, against MAP for all and against same sex unions
- A Paneosyan-Bouvet is an BIG ally of OPEN anti-trans activists Marguerite Stern and Dora Moutot
- MC. Carrere-Gée voted in favor of prohibiting médical transition for minor such as gender affirmation therapies
- C. Vautrin was a big anti same sex-union activist, she voted against same sex unions
- S. Lecornu said (about same sex unions) "Gay communitarianism infuriates me as much as homophobia (...) A family is built between a man and a woman"
- R. Dati refused to vote for the interdiction of conversion therapies torture against LGBTI+
- P. Christophe voted against MAP for all
- FN. Buffet voted an anti-trans law, against MAP for all and was a big activist against the same sex unions law.
- F. Gatel voted for the prohibition of gender affirmation therapies for minor and medical transition.
- A. Canayer co signed and voted for the prohibition of medical transition for minorit and gender affirmation therapies
- O. Nasrou (minister of citizen ship and against discriminations) voted against same sex unions and was accused of buying votes during the election with food and Foot seats for PSG.
- G. Avérous was a big anti-same sex union activist and anti MAP activist. He defended homophobic rethoric.
Funny... right ?
You guyz won't believe this, but Macron came from the sos-dem left (parti socialiste) and was elected by "progressive centrists" to counter the far right (his words), then said that he was neither left nor right, then said that he was a pragmatic and a rationnal, then proposed far right reforms, then after a lot of anti-social reforms he dissolved the assemblee after the win of the far right in the europpean election to get them in power and ridiculize them (it didn't work, the left won the election), then proceeded to ignore the result of the election and elected a far right prime minister
You guyz won't believe this, but this so called "unifer" prime minister was actually against the decriminalization of homosexuality in the 70's.
You guyz won't believe this, but among this "unifying" governement, there are no leftists, a majority of neo-liberals rightists (close to conservatists) close to Macron and a LOT of conservatist or far rightist/conservatist
You guyz won't believe this, but a LOT of ministers are actually against LGBTQI+ rights:
- M Bregeon sees pregnant trans men as a problem
- B. Retailleau voted AGAINST the prohibition of conversion therapies (a form torture to make a person non LGBT), he also voted against the right of abortion and an anti-trans law
- L. Garnier voted AGAINST the prohibition of conversion therapies, against same sex union, against the constitutionalization of abortion, and cosigned an anti-trans law
- P. Hetzel voted against the abortion, against MAP for all (Edit : medical assisted procreation), against same sex-union
- A. Genevard voted against the constitutionalization of abortion, against MAP for all and against same sex unions
- A Paneosyan-Bouvet is an BIG ally of OPEN anti-trans activists Marguerite Stern and Dora Moutot
- MC. Carrere-Gée voted in favor of prohibiting médical transition for minor such as gender affirmation therapies
- C. Vautrin was a big anti same sex-union activist, she voted against same sex unions
- S. Lecornu said (about same sex unions) "Gay communitarianism infuriates me as much as homophobia (...) A family is built between a man and a woman"
- R. Dati refused to vote for the interdiction of conversion therapies torture against LGBTI+
- P. Christophe voted against MAP for all
- FN. Buffet voted an anti-trans law, against MAP for all and was a big activist against the same sex unions law.
- F. Gatel voted for the prohibition of gender affirmation therapies for minor and medical transition.
- A. Canayer co signed and voted for the prohibition of medical transition for minorit and gender affirmation therapies
- O. Nasrou (minister of citizen ship and against discriminations) voted against same sex unions and was accused of buying votes during the election with food and Foot seats for PSG.
- G. Avérous was a big anti-same sex union activist and anti MAP activist. He defended homophobic rethoric.
Funny... right ?
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Most of your concerns in that post are debatable (and worth concern about) but I'm going to take a guess here and say that once the whole acceptance of the LGBTQ ideology started to become fully accepted (and even trendy) in the more democractic states of the US (and even in some centrist states), the more "out of the ordinary" actions/beliefs gradually started becoming "accepted" to the main public, even if on the down low.
The "liberal" politicians whose opinions are intolerant towards the belief mentioned above? It wouldn't be the first time that politicians have had those kinds of beliefs but didn't bring outright bring them up to the public.
The MAP stuff is something that you really don't want to defend here, even if you are leaning on the left.
The "liberal" politicians whose opinions are intolerant towards the belief mentioned above? It wouldn't be the first time that politicians have had those kinds of beliefs but didn't bring outright bring them up to the public.
The MAP stuff is something that you really don't want to defend here, even if you are leaning on the left.
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No they are not. Those are factual datas.
There is no "LGBTQI ideology". There are LGBTQI+ people that want the same human rights as other.
Actually it is. And you would be really non educated on leftist belief to think that MAP/R (Medical assisted procreation/reproduction) are not BASIC rights that leftists demands for all people who can't have children.
Those are necessary rights. Especially for same sex couple.
That's cute coming from you.
Noted what ? Their refusal of scientific data and political facts ? You do understand that I really was NEVER debunked by actual facts or scientific studies on this forum, right ?
I'm the one who providing you knowledge and valuable informations, you are the one denying it. Come back to earth mate.
There is no "LGBTQI ideology". There are LGBTQI+ people that want the same human rights as other.
Actually it is. And you would be really non educated on leftist belief to think that MAP/R (Medical assisted procreation/reproduction) are not BASIC rights that leftists demands for all people who can't have children.
Those are necessary rights. Especially for same sex couple.
That's cute coming from you.
Noted what ? Their refusal of scientific data and political facts ? You do understand that I really was NEVER debunked by actual facts or scientific studies on this forum, right ?
I'm the one who providing you knowledge and valuable informations, you are the one denying it. Come back to earth mate.
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It's not meant to be a "new left" gov, it's meant to be a unifying gov.
But this is not surprising, Macron is radicalizing toward conservatism and far right idea. He kept a minister of interior who had allegation of rape against him for 7 years. Macron is not progressive at all. Putting a far right PM and letting him nominated homophobes and transphobes is not a surprise.. but this is a scandal.
But this is not surprising, Macron is radicalizing toward conservatism and far right idea. He kept a minister of interior who had allegation of rape against him for 7 years. Macron is not progressive at all. Putting a far right PM and letting him nominated homophobes and transphobes is not a surprise.. but this is a scandal.
he probably thought you were referring to “Minor Attracted People”, an alternative terminology for pedophiles
A bunch of pro pedophile activists pushed the term MAP to de-stigmatize pedophilia.
The issue is that social stigma surrounding pedophilia is a significant barrier protecting kids from abuse.
Because pedophilia as a behavior is so heavily stigmatized, people are less likely to engage in this behavior.
Of course there are people who have pedophilic disorder, which is a mental illness where an individual has a primary attraction to prepubescent children and their arousal to children causes them significant distress and difficulties.
The problem with the MAPs approach to mental illness is that whereas sex offender treatment for people with pedophilic disorder involves helping these people form identities outside of their paraphilia, MAPs seem to do the opposite and push their identity as something to be proud of.
Of course, mental illnesses aren’t something one should take pride in. They destroy lives and we should do everything to find cures for these illnesses.
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A bunch of pro pedophile activists pushed the term MAP to de-stigmatize pedophilia.
The issue is that social stigma surrounding pedophilia is a significant barrier protecting kids from abuse.
Because pedophilia as a behavior is so heavily stigmatized, people are less likely to engage in this behavior.
Of course there are people who have pedophilic disorder, which is a mental illness where an individual has a primary attraction to prepubescent children and their arousal to children causes them significant distress and difficulties.
The problem with the MAPs approach to mental illness is that whereas sex offender treatment for people with pedophilic disorder involves helping these people form identities outside of their paraphilia, MAPs seem to do the opposite and push their identity as something to be proud of.
Of course, mental illnesses aren’t something one should take pride in. They destroy lives and we should do everything to find cures for these illnesses.
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They won't be, if those ministers start deciding that it's not in best interest of the public to encourage them.
Coming from the propagandist who starts spamming a bunch of random leftist political threads in this section of the forum everywhere just to instigate division and controversy?
This isn't the first time the LGBTQ community has tried peddling their so-called "human rights," using instances like this, and this to push their messages, particularly towards children who tend to absorb information more thoroughly and lack the means to question what’s presented to them. Why are they aiming this "message" at kids?
As for gender reassignment surgery, which was supposed to be touted as "acceptable, if not encouraged" for those who want to transition, it doesn’t surprise me that it comes with serious consequences.
The acronyms for medically assisted reproduction are MAR (medically assisted reproduction) or ART (assisted reproductive technology). Supporters of this movement, along with medical practitioners specializing in this field, would most certainly avoid using an acronym that could be mistaken for something more sinister, as it could lead to potential backlash from the general public.
Should have worded that acronym correctly the first time. Had to learn it the hard way myself when you word things in your post incorrectly.
You know what you tried to do when you mentioned that acronym as a potential concern for LGBTQ rights in France by typing in those three letters in your intial post, and flipped your definition for that acronym when I rightfully called you on it in my initial response.
Coming from the propagandist who starts spamming a bunch of random leftist political threads in this section of the forum everywhere just to instigate division and controversy?
This isn't the first time the LGBTQ community has tried peddling their so-called "human rights," using instances like this, and this to push their messages, particularly towards children who tend to absorb information more thoroughly and lack the means to question what’s presented to them. Why are they aiming this "message" at kids?
As for gender reassignment surgery, which was supposed to be touted as "acceptable, if not encouraged" for those who want to transition, it doesn’t surprise me that it comes with serious consequences.
The acronyms for medically assisted reproduction are MAR (medically assisted reproduction) or ART (assisted reproductive technology). Supporters of this movement, along with medical practitioners specializing in this field, would most certainly avoid using an acronym that could be mistaken for something more sinister, as it could lead to potential backlash from the general public.
Should have worded that acronym correctly the first time. Had to learn it the hard way myself when you word things in your post incorrectly.
You know what you tried to do when you mentioned that acronym as a potential concern for LGBTQ rights in France by typing in those three letters in your intial post, and flipped your definition for that acronym when I rightfully called you on it in my initial response.
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