Controversial What happens to people when they die?

#1
Idk, I guess they stop living

A friend of mine died recently. We weren’t too close or anything. In fact I only knew her for little over a month. But she was still my friend. So I’ve just been thinking about it the past week.

What happens when people die?

I saw my friend the day before it happened. She seemed normal. Then I came to learn she offed herself the next day. Went to the funeral today. It was a Jewish funeral and in the customs, after the coffin is lowered into the ground, the mourners have a chance to shovel some dirt onto it. The rabbi said it was the last mitzvah we can do for them.

I don’t know if I really believe in an afterlife. It’s not impossible that we could reincarnate or that heaven and hell are real. But I just don’t think we get afterlives in any meaningful sense. All that we are is our body. Our brain, our memories, are physical appearance, senses, abilities, and characteristics, that is all we are.

Could the soul exist? It’s possible. But if it does exist then it would need to be something entirely different from the brain. And almost all of what constitutes our sense of self comes from the body and the brain.

I keep thinking about what happened to my friend. Where she is right now. I think she’s in the dirt, where we laid her to rest this morning. I think whatever constituted who my friend was, was destroyed when she killed herself. Her mind, her body, all she was and ever will be. All that was left was the remains, which we buried in a box in the ground.

I think that’s okay. It’s fine if that’s all there is. She had a tough life, she struggled, now it’s over. The older I get the more people I will know who have died until one day, death comes from me. Then I will experience the same thing my friend did, the same thing my grandparents did, the same thing everyone does. That gives me comfort.

I think the only meaningful afterlife we get is in the hearts of the people we affect. Hence I think I’ll do my best to keep my friend’s memory alive, even if I didn’t know her for too long. Then one day when I die, I can hope others will do the same for me.

I think I’ll do some volunteer anti suicide work. My friend was also British. Might visit Britain one day, perhaps also learn to cook British food. I heard she loved beans on toast. That sounds disgusting, but I think I’ll try it. For her sake.
 
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#2
You go back to not existing.
Its no big deal though. You already not existed before and it did not bother you.

Life is only good and valuable because it can end.
 
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First of all, my condolences to your friend

Personally, I think that it’s more convenient to believe in an afterlife. I believe that there’s some sort of entropy going on with souls or life itself. Maybe the reincarnation cycle is possible if you think of souls as just a form of energy, therefore some rules of entropy will be applicable to it.

A bit of a tangent but go read on the 21 gram experiment, it’s an attempt to find out if the soul has weight to it.

The answer is something that we will never know in a million lifetimes, maybe if technology advances hard enough in the future then the humans there are lucky (or unlucky) enough to witness the truth.
 

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#6
We lose all the memories and experiences that we had prior to our death, but there are circumstances where some people that experience death see a blinding white light right before the ascension of their soul. If a person comes back to life during that exact moment, that person is considered "born again", a life changing event where a person experiences the start of life again the second time.

What is it like to experience life as a boy or a girl that is growing up in the year 2100? Maybe you'll know soon after you perish in your previous life due to old age?

Be thankful towards your elders and especially your grandparents though. They worked hard, and endured the harshest of times so that you can live here in this relatively peaceful world.

@Monkey D Theories Great thread!
 
#9
You go back to not existing.
Its no big deal though. You already not existed before and it did not bother you.

Life is only good and valuable because it can end.
I think I can be okay with this. I think if there was truly life after death then there’d be no point in living.

Ceasing to exist sounds peaceful. I think I can look forward to it, once my time on earth has run it’s course(hopefully not for a while).
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Why are you becoming a jew then?
I don’t think Jews are quite concerned with the afterlife. There are ideas on what could happen, but it seems to me that different people believe different things.
 
#10
copying something i said on another site:
honestly I think you just, don't stop existing, but you also don't really exist in a way? I mean you don't have much freedom or liberty once you die kind of, you're just there. You're just sentient. Can't really move or anything like that, can't feel any pleasure or pain
[as an addendum to this:]
I don't really believe that we just disappear and we don't linger as a soul or reincarnate or anything like that. It's a VERY complex thing especially since nobody can just experience it then tell everyone else "Oh, this is how death feels, and here's what happens after it.", but if you were to ask me for my genuine opinion on it, I'd say that you either reincarnate or you still stay around as a soul in a way. I don't think that you can be a ghost and/or possess people and what not, though.
 
#12
Idk, I guess they stop living

A friend of mine died recently. We weren’t too close or anything. In fact I only knew her for little over a month. But she was still my friend. So I’ve just been thinking about it the past week.

What happens when people die?

I saw my friend the day before it happened. She seemed normal. Then I came to learn she offed herself the next day. Went to the funeral today. It was a Jewish funeral and in the customs, after the coffin is lowered into the ground, the mourners have a chance to shovel some dirt onto it. The rabbi said it was the last mitzvah we can do for them.

I don’t know if I really believe in an afterlife. It’s not impossible that we could reincarnate or that heaven and hell are real. But I just don’t think we get afterlives in any meaningful sense. All that we are is our body. Our brain, our memories, are physical appearance, senses, abilities, and characteristics, that is all we are.

Could the soul exist? It’s possible. But if it does exist then it would need to be something entirely different from the brain. And almost all of what constitutes our sense of self comes from the body and the brain.

I keep thinking about what happened to my friend. Where she is right now. I think she’s in the dirt, where we laid her to rest this morning. I think whatever constituted who my friend was, was destroyed when she killed herself. Her mind, her body, all she was and ever will be. All that was left was the remains, which we buried in a box in the ground.

I think that’s okay. It’s fine if that’s all there is. She had a tough life, she struggled, now it’s over. The older I get the more people I will know who have died until one day, death comes from me. Then I will experience the same thing my friend did, the same thing my grandparents did, the same thing everyone does. That gives me comfort.

I think the only meaningful afterlife we get is in the hearts of the people we affect. Hence I think I’ll do my best to keep my friend’s memory alive, even if I didn’t know her for too long. Then one day when I die, I can hope others will do the same for me.

I think I’ll do some volunteer anti suicide work. My friend was also British. Might visit Britain one day, perhaps also learn to cook British food. I heard she loved beans on toast. That sounds disgusting, but I think I’ll try it. For her sake.
Dude, look up near death experiences testimonials on the web. There is a soul.
 
#13
Idk, I guess they stop living

A friend of mine died recently. We weren’t too close or anything. In fact I only knew her for little over a month. But she was still my friend. So I’ve just been thinking about it the past week.

What happens when people die?

I saw my friend the day before it happened. She seemed normal. Then I came to learn she offed herself the next day. Went to the funeral today. It was a Jewish funeral and in the customs, after the coffin is lowered into the ground, the mourners have a chance to shovel some dirt onto it. The rabbi said it was the last mitzvah we can do for them.

I don’t know if I really believe in an afterlife. It’s not impossible that we could reincarnate or that heaven and hell are real. But I just don’t think we get afterlives in any meaningful sense. All that we are is our body. Our brain, our memories, are physical appearance, senses, abilities, and characteristics, that is all we are.

Could the soul exist? It’s possible. But if it does exist then it would need to be something entirely different from the brain. And almost all of what constitutes our sense of self comes from the body and the brain.

I keep thinking about what happened to my friend. Where she is right now. I think she’s in the dirt, where we laid her to rest this morning. I think whatever constituted who my friend was, was destroyed when she killed herself. Her mind, her body, all she was and ever will be. All that was left was the remains, which we buried in a box in the ground.

I think that’s okay. It’s fine if that’s all there is. She had a tough life, she struggled, now it’s over. The older I get the more people I will know who have died until one day, death comes from me. Then I will experience the same thing my friend did, the same thing my grandparents did, the same thing everyone does. That gives me comfort.

I think the only meaningful afterlife we get is in the hearts of the people we affect. Hence I think I’ll do my best to keep my friend’s memory alive, even if I didn’t know her for too long. Then one day when I die, I can hope others will do the same for me.

I think I’ll do some volunteer anti suicide work. My friend was also British. Might visit Britain one day, perhaps also learn to cook British food. I heard she loved beans on toast. That sounds disgusting, but I think I’ll try it. For her sake.
I'm sorry about your friend.

Death is the absence of life, so when we die, we stop to live and we become materials without consciousness. But you are right, in a spiritual sence (and even in a material sense when we think about it), as long as you keep your friend's will alive, they will never truly die.
 
#14
Dude, look up near death experiences testimonials on the web. There is a soul.
You're very likely correct that there is a soul, but people usually have a tendency of lying and stretching the truth to fit their agendas especially when it comes to topics as touchy as death. One person may say it was all pitch black/they didn't remember anything from when they were temporarily dead, and another might say they saw pearly gates, angels/cherubs, clouds, the whole shebang.
 
#15
You're very likely correct that there is a soul, but people usually have a tendency of lying and stretching the truth to fit their agendas especially when it comes to topics as touchy as death. One person may say it was all pitch black/they didn't remember anything from when they were temporarily dead, and another might say they saw pearly gates, angels/cherubs, clouds, the whole shebang.
I'm talking about those cases where people leave their bodies and describe what was going on in the emergency room and telling details only doctors could possibly know. There are plenty of thoses cases around. Out of body experience is real. Even CIA messes with this stuff for intel purposes.
 
#16
I'm talking about those cases where people leave their bodies and describe what was going on in the emergency room and telling details only doctors could possibly know. There are plenty of thoses cases around. Out of body experience is real. Even CIA messes with this stuff for intel purposes.
You are underestimating the power of the human body and the brain. It's very possible that the brain is simply producing this phenomena out of all the signals that are in the room.
 
#17
You are underestimating the power of the human body and the brain. It's very possible that the brain is simply producing this phenomena out of all the signals that are in the room.
Yeah,of course,the brain projects fucking eyes in the ceilling that can go through all the fucking rooms and know everything that is going on in the fucking hospital.
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You are underestimating the power of the human body and the brain. It's very possible that the brain is simply producing this phenomena out of all the signals that are in the room.
Cope.
 
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Yeah,of course,the brain projects fucking eyes in the ceilling that can go through all the fucking rooms and now everything that is going on in the fucking hospital.
You really shouldn't underestimate the power of the brain and all the stuff that we can get just by the sound, the air, the sent etc.. Also, it could completely be a case of reverse memory where the thing you see after the fact are imprinted inside your brain to cope with the trauma.

There are no reason to talk about souls, souls is really not the first thing that could explain those phenomena.

The out of body experience is most likely a way the brain has to interpret the data it's receiving in that period as indeed, it seems to be a period of high awareness.
 
#19
You really shouldn't underestimate the power of the brain and all the stuff that we can get just by the sound, the air, the sent etc.. Also, it could completely be a case of reverse memory where the thing you see after the fact are imprinted inside your brain to cope with the trauma.

There are no reason to talk about souls, souls is really not the first thing that could explain those phenomena.

The out of body experience is most likely a way the brain has to interpret the data it's receiving in that period as indeed, it seems to be a period of high awareness.
Nope, read my posts again. I'm talking about cases of people that experienced near death experiences and saw/reported things they should not be able to know about. The CIA has conducted research and hired psychics to spy on the Russian and Chinese during the cold war. Look it up. Let's not get started on paranormal events now. Plenty of them have been documented.
 
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