Versus Battle Jojo’s bizarre adventure is Faster than Light

[RayanOO]

And every Stand who is comparable to Silver Chariot, who could intercept Hanged Man millimeters away from the reflective surface of a coin,is FTL+

Same for Silver Chariot

the whole point of the fight was to corner Hanged man to have only one path left so Polnareff knew where to strike and when

No need to be LS for that

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Plus in that Kars scan, he casually managed to cut through those multiple bullets from that gatling gun and an argument could be made for Kars (at the very least) scaling directly to the speed of those ammunition, which should be faster than normal, moving fast enough to generate enough kinetic energy to pierce through 3cm thic steel plates and all

At first Kard got caught

Even if those bullets are 10x faster than normal bullets it’s still far far far far less than LS

 

[Steven]

And Kars was pressured by nazi Gatling gun

and only with light blade mode he was able to cut the bullet extremely fast. But it’s telling that people are shocked that he is cutting normal bullets

it’s fucking not LS

Nobody cares about the Nazis reaction

Silver Chariot is still the best shit you find in JoJo

 

[RayanOO]

Nobody cares about the Nazis reaction

Nobody cared about Kars being tagged by a 600/per minute gargling gun ?

Silver Chariot is still the best shit you find in JoJo

Maybe but it’s not LS

and pretty sure Pucci with MIH is faster

 

[Steven]

Nobody cared about Kars being tagged by a 600/per minute gargling gun ?

Just your usual low-end feat.Why even bother with it

Maybe but it’s not LS

It is lol.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Kizaru is moving at LS with his DF and is 100 times faster than pre TS Zoro or any SN

Pre TS zoro isn’t LS at all, not in reaction speed or

Hmm, pre to Zoro ON PANEL dodges laser beams

are you saying Kizaru moves faster than his own laser beams?

Like if Kizaru says he was going to kick Hawkins as the speed of light right? So if Kizaru tries to kick Zoro, are you saying Zoro CANNOT DODGE A light speed kick? Yet he can dodge light speed lasers?

 

[RayanOO]

So if Kizaru tries to kick Zoro, are you saying Zoro CANNOT DODGE A light speed kick? Yet he can dodge light speed lasers?

Yeah

Because dodging a Pacifista laser isn’t a LS feat

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

the whole point of the fight was to corner Hanged man to have only one path left so Polnareff knew where to strike and when

Why are you posting panels for everything but not posting panels of this specific feat… Why are you choosing the anime for this part and ignoring the manga

in the manga Hangman IS ALREADY MOVING before Polnareff moves… polnareff isn’t pre-emptively striking at an areas he thinks Hangman is going to go

he is cornering Hangman so he can guess the general area but he WAITS FOR HANGMAN TO MOVE AND THEN CATCHES HIM mid movement

and as a side note, this is what happens with Zoro too… Zoro is NOT moving when Kuma’s laser has been shot at him… Zoro starts moving AFTER THE LASER is like 1 meter away from his face… Zoro moves out of the trajectory of a light speed attack faster than it can reach him in a single meter

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Because dodging a Pacifista laser isn’t a LS feat

What’s the difference between Kizaru’s kick and - pacifista laser… in terms of speed

 

[RayanOO]

Why are you posting panels for everything but not posting panels of this specific feat… Why are you choosing the anime for this part and ignoring the manga

in the manga Hangman IS ALREADY MOVING before Polnareff moves… polnareff isn’t pre-emptively striking at an areas he thinks Hangman is going to go

he is cornering Hangman so he can guess the general area but he WAITS FOR HANGMAN TO MOVE AND THEN CATCHES HIM mid movement

Lmao I only watched the anime for that part and was easier to find the gif

but nice move lol

Here the scan

Same thing here Polnareff put Hanged man in the position of moving while He knew exactly when he will move and then struck

Not a LS in my book

Especially when all those pseudo LS are outliers in the millions of other feats that are way more grounded

You have to feel and taste the universe they are in and the kind of manga we are reading and LS moves left and right aren’t that kind of manga lol

and as a side note, this is what happens with Zoro too… Zoro is NOT moving when Kuma’s laser has been shot at him… Zoro starts moving AFTER THE LASER is like 1 meter away from his face… Zoro moves out of the trajectory of a light speed attack faster than it can reach him in a single meter

So you think Pre TS can dodge a kick from Kiz lol ?

 

[Daniel]

Same thing here Polnareff put Hanged man in the position of moving while He knew exactly when he will move and then struck

That page in the manga reads from right to left though.

Hanged Man jumps up to strike from ground level after Polnareff kicks that ring up in the air and yells out "Now!", but the ray of light was already reaching close to the ring right at the time of Polnareff's yell.

So Hanged Man jumps right when the ray of light was about to reach the ring in the air.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

So you think Pre TS can dodge a kick from Kiz lol ?

Well yes. Kizaru says his kick is light speed. Kuma’s lasers are lasers so they are light speed

Zoro dodged that one light speed attack so he can dodge that other light speed attack… That’s how power scaling works

good that you’ve found the panel of where it shown that Hangman was already moving at light speed and then Polnareff moved to catch him at light speed

good

 

[Daniel]

Kizaru says his kick is light speed. Kuma’s lasers are lasers so they are light speed

Usually you'd want to see these "lasers" display some of the properties that a real laser/ray of light should have, including the ability to reflect off mirrors, but also its speed, which should be moving at the speed of light.

Optional, but recommended source of evidence for a "laser" actually being lightspeed.

Oh, and its trajectory should always be a straight line and not curve in any way.

 

[RayanOO]

Well yes. Kizaru says his kick is light speed. Kuma’s lasers are lasers so they are light speed

Zoro dodged that one light speed attack so he can dodge that other light speed attack… That’s who power scaling works

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Usually you'd want to see these "lasers" display some of the properties that a real laser/ray of light should have, including the ability to reflect off mirrors, but also its speed, which should be moving at the speed of light.

Optional, but recommended source of evidence for a "laser" actually being lightspeed.

Oh, and its trajectory should always be a straight line and not curve in any way.

Oh we need fiction to conform to reality?

why is Kizaru’s kick considered light speed yet it doesn’t behave like it’s light speed… A light speed kick would OBLITERATE THE ATMOSPHERE… Kizaru’s kick would set off a nuclear reaction before it even landed on Hawkin’s face

I mean we are doing “real physics” now right? Let’s do “real physics” shall we

 

[Daniel]

why is Kizaru’s kick considered light speed yet it doesn’t behave like it’s light speed… A light speed kick would OBLITERATE THE ATMOSPHERE

Which it would in reality, but the actual effects of something going that fast often gets ignored if the chapter wants its readers to witness a fight scene instead of a feat where things get destroyed...

But from reading in the OP Wiki there could very well be enough evidence in the One Piece world that actual laser weaponery does exist, and is used by some of the characters in combat.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Which it would in reality,

Well there you have it. The reason SOME lasers reflect and move in straight lines is the same reason that light speed kick didn’t explode the atmosphere… It’s all fiction

 

[Daniel]

Well there you have it. The reason SOME lasers reflect and move in straight lines is the same reason that light speed kick didn’t explode the atmosphere… It’s all fiction

I'm on the side of lightspeed attacks that characters that can move at that speed existing in OP btw