Speculations Post Egghead Luffy doesn’t deserve a 4 billion berry bounty

#23
Most of Kizaru’d strength comes from his fruit which Teach can negate
On contact yeah, he doesn't just turn off Kizaru's fruit constantly, and if it was that easy for Blackbeard to win, he'd have neg diffed Law who is much weaker than Kizaru, but that never happened, even a total fruit merchant like Law was still able to put up a fight.
 
#24
It's Kidd and Law who don't deserve 3 billions. Especially Kidd who is below Perospero.

3 billions for Nika the clown is fair I guess as long as he gets some snacks in his fights.
Luffy deserves 3 Billion
Kid and Law don’t deserve their bounty, they should be closer to Boa at around 1.6
This is a cope. Oda already set those bounties and even had Teach and Shanks validate them.

Kid and Law have strong DFs, both of which are awakened. They mastered their powers during the fight and we saw them spam their top abilities against the yonko.

You can argue they aren’t as strong as yonkos or admirals, but anything else is headcanon.
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On contact yeah, he doesn't just turn off Kizaru's fruit constantly, and if it was that easy for Blackbeard to win, he'd have neg diffed Law who is much weaker than Kizaru, but that never happened, even a total fruit merchant like Law was still able to put up a fight.
Law isn’t that much weaker than Kizaru. They have the same bounty.

it’s the difference between Cracker and King vs an admiral. King is obviously stronger, but both get their ass beat.
 
#25
The difference was Teach attacked Law at sea once Teach and Law both landed on winner island, Law and Blackbeard ended the same way from Black Hole.
no clue why that would make the portrayal of a fight different that’s moronic.

Sadly the fight ending there headcanon. In the actual story there’s progression of time shown to have occurred after that engagement. So no, it didn’t end the same way lol. Having fought pass that moment would be higher portrayal. Along with actually being able to push Meme 2-1. While bums like Marco/king/Kata/Shiryu are helpless against top tier even with multiple YCs helping them….
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If anything Blackbeard was more careful vs Boa because he knew she was more dangerous.
More careful how? Outside of saying her ability dangerous. What steps we’re being taken to be “more careful” lol… Against Law he actually brings out Gura+Yami to gain the upper hand fool. He only needed one to subdue Hancock.
 
#26
This is a cope. Oda already set those bounties and even had Teach and Shanks validate them.

Kid and Law have strong DFs, both of which are awakened. They mastered their powers during the fight and we saw them spam their top abilities against the yonko.

You can argue they aren’t as strong as yonkos or admirals, but anything else is headcanon.
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Law isn’t that much weaker than Kizaru. They have the same bounty.

it’s the difference between Cracker and King vs an admiral. King is obviously stronger, but both get their ass beat.
Shanks and Teach then went forward and absolutely destroy these two. They’re a far cry from the admirals who are also 3 billion berries. Hell we as readers even saw why those bounties were inflated anyways
 
#27
Law isn’t that much weaker than Kizaru. They have the same bounty.

it’s the difference between Cracker and King vs an admiral. King is obviously stronger, but both get their ass beat.
The difference between Law and Kizaru is more akin to comparing Cracker to old Rayleigh, there's a night and day difference between them, Law isn't even a top tier lmao whereas Kizaru is a solid top tier.
 
#28
no clue why that would make the portrayal of a fight different that’s moronic.

Sadly the fight ending there headcanon. In the actual story there’s progression of time shown to have occurred after that engagement. So no, it didn’t end the same way lol. Having fought pass that moment would be higher portrayal. Along with actually being able to push Meme 2-1. While bums like Marco/king/Kata/Shiryu are helpless against top tier even with multiple YCs helping them….
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More careful how? Outside of saying her ability dangerous. What steps we’re being taken to be “more careful” lol… Against Law he actually brings out Gura+Yami to gain the upper hand fool. He only needed one to subdue Hancock.
Against Law he was playing around literally flying on the back of Stronger and talking to him rather than taking him off guard like he did against boa.
 
#29
Luffy receiving a 3B bounty makes sense. He was able to eventually beat Kaido thanks to all the help he received and G5. Plus he is a yonko with a powerful crew, grand fleet, allies, and territory.

The problem was giving Law and Kid 3B bounty each. That made no sense even if it was used to hide Luffy's strength and DF awakening powers. I understand in race for One Piece a win is a win so them beating Big Mom because of the bombs still counts as their win. Still, their bounty was too high. Oda should have given them a bounty about half of Big Mom bounty each. Around 2.2B each.

BB beat Law badly. His awakening power that some claim to only be tanked by Kaido and Big Mom could only give BB a minor noise bleed. BB easily stopped Law attacks. That was a low diff battle for BB.

Shanks oneshot Kid. It was worse and much more embarrassing than the beating Kaido gave early Wano Luffy.
 
#30
Shanks and Teach then went forward and absolutely destroy these two. They’re a far cry from the admirals who are also 3 billion berries. Hell we as readers even saw why those bounties were inflated anyways
Shanks and Teach are worth 4 billion

The 4 billion characters are on another level. It’s why there are so few of them.

Luffy ~ Kizaru ~ Kuzan and Kuzan is a mere subordinate on Teach’s crew
 
#32
Shanks and Teach are worth 4 billion

The 4 billion characters are on another level. It’s why there are so few of them.

Luffy ~ Kizaru ~ Kuzan and Kuzan is a mere subordinate on Teach’s crew
Yes
Luffy went all out and failed to own half serious Kizaru 1v1 or 1v2

In your manga Kizaru dominated or matched serious Luffy
 
#34
Shanks and Teach are worth 4 billion

The 4 billion characters are on another level. It’s why there are so few of them.

Luffy ~ Kizaru ~ Kuzan and Kuzan is a mere subordinate on Teach’s crew
Kizaru is not comparable to Kuzan. Kuzans comparable to Sakazuki. Kizaru is a full tier below those two. And Mihawks also a “mere subordinate” of buggy…

Law and Kid don’t deserve their bounty were shown in verse that they got it because the WG thought those two played equal parts with Luffy in defeating the two yonko (lmao) and then they got stomped by top tiers as soon as they left. Acting like they warrant a 3 billion bounty on par with Luffy and the current admirals is nuts.
 
#35
Luffy receiving a 3B bounty makes sense. He was able to eventually beat Kaido thanks to all the help he received and G5. Plus he is a yonko with a powerful crew, grand fleet, allies, and territory.

The problem was giving Law and Kid 3B bounty each. That made no sense even if it was used to hide Luffy's strength and DF awakening powers. I understand in race for One Piece a win is a win so them beating Big Mom because of the bombs still counts as their win. Still, their bounty was too high. Oda should have given them a bounty about half of Big Mom bounty each. Around 2.2B each.

BB beat Law badly. His awakening power that some claim to only be tanked by Kaido and Big Mom could only give BB a minor noise bleed. BB easily stopped Law attacks. That was a low diff battle for BB.

Shanks oneshot Kid. It was worse and much more embarrassing than the beating Kaido gave early Wano Luffy.
A big reason they were probably given 3 billion berries was to hype up Teach and Shanks.

Kid and Law are portrayed as Luffy’s rivals. Teach and Shanks stomping them is a clear indication that they are above Luffy.

If they weren’t portrayed as Luffy’s rivals then their losses wouldn’t be impactful.
 
#37
Blackbeard isn't stomping Kizaru lmfao, he couldn't even stomp Law who is an ant to Kizaru.

And this bounty song and dance comes up weekly, the simple explanation is that bounties don't mean shit for powerscaling.
Blackbread an actual real Yonko…
Luffy a pretender that needs the enemy to consistently hold back against him. Hence him being called a fraud by a high tier for a reason.

BB beat Law badly. His awakening power that some claim to only be tanked by Kaido and Big Mom could only give BB a minor noise bleed. BB easily stopped Law attacks. That was a low diff battle for BB.
There’s not a single panel of teach legitimately even overwhelming Law lmao. But he got beat bad ?

Teach has been hyped for his endurance since pre skip, an has feats tanking top tier attacks during MF. legitimately a moronic argument lol. Especially since most of Law damage internal, and a direct statement from teach ally implying the damage severe….

Calling that battle low diff reaching at its finest lol. literally can’t post a single panel of teach landing a fair solid blow during the entire exchange.
 
#39
Law and Kid don’t deserve their bounty were shown in verse that they got it because the WG thought those two played equal parts with Luffy in defeating the two yonko (lmao) and then they got stomped by top tiers as soon as they left.
This is a profound misreading of the text. The bounties were repeatedly used to wank the supernova right before they were defeated.

This is true even in the case of Kid, who had the most egregious loss. Oda had the narrator specifically highlight his bounty in the final pages.
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Kizaru is not comparable to Kuzan. Kuzans comparable to Sakazuki. Kizaru is a full tier below those two.
Which shows exactly how big the gap between Luffy and Teach is.
 
#40
Against Law he was playing around literally flying on the back of Stronger and talking to him rather than taking him off guard like he did against boa.
Trying to stay outside of Law room range with stronger it’s playing around lmao. It’s call strategy, problems he didn’t know about Law awakening.

Anyway using Gura+Yami would clear suggest who teach was taking more seriously.

Plus again would’ve got multiple scenes of YC bums. You know Marco/King/Kata/Shriyu type losers all helpless against a top tier. Even with bombs or multiple YCs help that doesn’t change.
 
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