Controversial General Political Discussion

[Brush D. Teeth]

Meanwhile, Christians are attacked in this manner in NYC:

As a legal immigrant who didn’t get citizenship and voting rights till I was 20 (despite living my entire life in this country) this is the stupidest, most ignorant thing you could ever say. You literally don’t even know how your own healthcare system works, and you still buy into weird conspiracy theories crafted by inbred retards who worship a politician like a messiah.

I am getting real sick of your attitude, every time we interact you have to offend. Either put me on ignore or learn you control yourself. If you keep doing this I will respond in kind, as it seems there's no moderation.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Meanwhile, Christians are attacked in this manner in NYC:

I am getting real sick of your attitude, every time we interact you have to offend. Either put me on ignore or learn you control yourself. If you keep doing this I will respond in kind, as it seems there's no moderation.

Cry

don’t dish it if you can’t take it. You criminalize and denigrate some of the hardest working folk in this country while labeling them criminals because you live in this fantasy world where they swing elections when they don’t even have voting rights. No insults where even directed toward you, so respond however you want.

 

[Reborn]

Few of my knowns went to Poland. Man, they loved it.

You can hate their zero ILLEGAL immigrants policy, call them racists (well they aren't anyway) but most citizens including legal migrants over there are loving it. They are having last laugh.

 

[Daniel]

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/staged-armed-robberies-u-visa-scheme/

CHICAGO (CBS) -- Six men have been charged with staging a series of armed robberies at gas stations, fast food restaurants, and liquor stores in the Chicago area, Louisiana, and Tennessee, in a scheme to obtain immigration visas reserved for crime victims.

A federal indictment unsealed on Friday in Chicago accuses the men of recruiting people to pose as robbers, and then filing false police reports, in order to obtain forms to qualify for U nonimmigrant status, also known as a U-visa, from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Such visas are set aside for victims of certain crimes who have suffered physical or emotional abuse, and are providing assistance to police or prosecutors.

Parth Nayi, 26, of Woodridge; Kewon Young, 31, of Mansfield, Ohio; Bhikhabhai Patel, 51, of Elizabethtown, Kentucky; Nilesh Patel, 32, of Jackson, Tennessee; Ravinaben Patel, 23, of Racine, Wisconsin; and Rajnikumar Patel, 32, of Jacksonville, Florida, are charged with conspiracy to commit visa fraud. Ravinaben Patel is also charged with making a false statement in a visa application.

Federal prosecutors said Nayi and Young organized a series of staged armed robberies between July 2022 and January 2024, in which the four other men pretended to be robbery victims so they could apply for U-visas.

It was not immediately clear if or how the four Patels are related.

The Patels paid Nayi thousands of dollars to participate in the scheme, and he would tell them when and where to show up for the staged robberies, according to the indictment.

During the fake robberies, people pretending to be robbers would brandish what appeared to be firearms, approach people pretending to be victims, and demand their money and belongings. The fake robbers would then take money and other belongings from victims and flee the scene. In some cases, Nayi and Young told the people acting as robbers to hit the purported victims in order to make the robbery look real.

The indictment listed more than a dozen staged robberies committed during the scheme, including gas stations in Lombard and Hickory Hills; Subway restaurants in Chicago, Elmwood Park, and Louisiana; a Tropical Smoothie Café in St. Charles; multiple Dunkin Donuts stores in Chicago and South Holland; liquor stores in Chicago, River Grove, and Lake Villa; a 7-Eleven in Chicago, and a truck stop in Tennessee.

One of the fake robberies happened in July of last year and had real consequences. A 26-year-old clerk was shot during a robbery at Bucktown Food & Liquor, 1950 N. Milwaukee Ave.

The owner said at the time that he was stunned by the dramatic robbery.

The surveillance video showed two masked men all in black walking in. The clerk and the customers in the store handed over their wallets and belongings – only for the robber to start firing anyway.

On Friday, CBS 2 asked an employee working at Bucktown Food & Liquor about the federal indictment. He said he had no idea that the store was involved, and he was not working the day of the robbery.

"They've undergone something pretty, pretty serious," immigration attorney Xavier Borjas of the Borjas Law Group said of the defendants in this case.

Borjas helps victims of crimes obtain the U-visas, which can help encourage victims to report crimes without fear of being deported. He said these cases are not what the visas are meant for.

"It's very disheartening, because there are so many people that unfortunately do qualify and have been victims of these crimes that you want to ensure hopefully, get some sort of some, some sort of relief," Borjas said.

The conspiracy charges against the defendants carry a sentence of up to 5 years in prison, while the false statement charge against Ravinaben Patel carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison.

Court information for the defendants was not immediately available.

The fake robbery victims would later fill out forms requesting police certify them as victims of a crime qualifying them for U-visas.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Cry

don’t dish it if you can’t take it. You criminalize and denigrate some of the hardest working folk in this country while labeling them criminals because you live in this fantasy world where they swing elections when they don’t even have voting rights. No insults where even directed toward you, so respond however you want.

What kind of stupid retard are you? I didn't criminalize anyone you cunt, I said illegals shouldn't vote. Use less LSD you idiotic clown.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

What kind of stupid retard are you? I didn't criminalize anyone you cunt, I said illegals shouldn't vote. Use less LSD you idiotic clown.

Nice one. I'm not the one pretending illegals are voting in an organized/big scale. Only retards believe it while bad faith actors pretend voter fraud is a huge issue in this country when we have data to support it is not.

Go cry to mommy, maybe she'll give you the money to come here so you can finally fulfill your dream of joining the MAGA church.

 

[Zenos7]

Use less LSD you idiotic clown.

This doesnt make sense
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I'm not the one pretending illegals are voting in an organized/big scale

Thats not what he said either. He said dems want to give them voting rights (which probably also isnt true for the most part i guess)

 

[Toby D. Dog]

This doesnt make sense

Probably a colloquial/local idiom that doesn't apply nor translate well in these circumstances.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Nice one. I'm not the one pretending illegals are voting in an organized/big scale. Only retards believe it while bad faith actors pretend voter fraud is a huge issue in this country when we have data to support it is not.

Go cry to mommy, maybe she'll give you the money to come here so you can finally fulfill your dream of joining the MAGA church.

Everyone knows your electoral system is an absolute joke, denying the truth only shows how big of a liar you are.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Everyone knows your electoral system is an absolute joke, denying the truth only shows how big of a liar you are.

I've never said it's not a joke in terms of how it functions, but how rich is it that you have the gall to call me a liar when that's what you do all the time? You pretended foreigners could get procedures in your country for free and I proved to you that was not the case. You pretend Trump is somehow anti-israel when all he does is criticize Democrats for not giving more weapons and more money to Israel. You somehow believe Trump is honest but he still cozies up to your worst enemy Elon Musk and a barrage of neocons you pretend to be against.

You're either willfully ignorant or very, very uneducated. Either way you're a clown.
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Thats not what he said either. He said dems want to give them voting rights (which probably also isnt true for the most part i guess)

Worst thing they ever officially proposed was giving legal residents power to vote in local elections (Mayor and city council) but it was never done.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

I've never said it's not a joke in terms of how it functions, but how rich is it that you have the gall to call me a liar when that's what you do all the time? You pretended foreigners could get procedures in your country for free and I proved to you that was not the case. You pretend Trump is somehow anti-israel when all he does is criticize Democrats for not giving more weapons and more money to Israel. You somehow believe Trump is honest but he still cozies up to your worst enemy Elon Musk and a barrage of neocons you pretend to be against.

You're either willfully ignorant or very, very uneducated. Either way you're a clown.
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Worst thing they ever officially proposed was giving legal residents power to vote in local elections (Mayor and city council) but it was never done.

I don't even remember what we were saying about hospitals in detail and wow you're still ranting about that. Trump idk, it may go either way. What's for sure is that there was no Palestinian genocide under his government. The only reason why you stopped massacring them for now is the elections.
No matter how much you lie, everyone knows that your electoral system is shit and designed to commit fraud.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I don't even remember what we were saying about hospitals in detail and wow you're still ranting about that. Trump idk, it may go either way. What's for sure is that there was no Palestinian genocide under his government. The only reason why you stopped massacring them for now is the elections.
No matter how much you lie, everyone knows that your electoral system is shit and designed to commit fraud.

You just make blanket statements without providing a single shred of evidence. Spoken like a true fraud. You don't know anything, you don't provide a single good argument, just baseless accusation after baseless accusation.

You'll lie and obfuscate just for the sake of your own pride and lack of knowledge.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

You just make blanket statements without providing a single shred of evidence. Spoken like a true fraud. You don't know anything, you don't provide a single good argument, just baseless accusation after baseless accusation.

You'll lie and obfuscate just for the sake of your own pride and lack of knowledge.

Everybody knows about the way you 'muricans hold your elections. It's public knowledge that your laws were never very strict when it comes to voter identification and stuff like that.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

It’s Hooogan time .

I can’t tell US politics is another WWE Show .
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Hogan should also mention how many skeleton his boss held in closet .

C’mon Terry we know Vince is saint as hell

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Hogan should also mention how many skeleton his boss held in closet .

Why?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Why?

Why shouldn’t he ?

WWE under Vince was always controversial , Hogan was enabler . He helped his boss escape by hook and crook when trials ran about rampant steroid abuse in wrestling industry .

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Everybody knows about the way you 'muricans hold your elections. It's public knowledge that your laws were never very strict when it comes to voter identification and stuff like that.

You need a government issued ID in the first place in order to register doofus. Don't pretend you have any real knowledge when it comes to the electoral system beyond having the not so controversial opinion of hating the electoral college. You already showed us your whole ass and outed yourself as someone with very little empirical knowledge on anything.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Why shouldn’t he ?

WWE under Vince was always controversial , Hogan was enabler . He helped his boss escape by hook and crook when trials ran about rampant steroid abuse in wrestling industry .

Why would he go to a US presidential election rally and randomly start talking shit of Vince McMahon?

You need a government issued ID in the first place in order to register doofus. Don't pretend you have any real knowledge when it comes to the electoral system beyond having the not so controversial opinion of hating the electoral college. You already showed us your whole ass and outed yourself as someone with very little empirical knowledge on anything.

Already coming in news about frauds, one person voted 29 times in Michigan. Also if your system is so secure why are y'all always bitching about fraud when the other side wins an election? In normal counties we don't have this bullshit.

 

[NikaInParis]

Why shouldn’t he ?

WWE under Vince was always controversial , Hogan was enabler . He helped his boss escape by hook and crook when trials ran about rampant steroid abuse in wrestling industry .

Don't work yourself into a shoot, brother

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Already coming in news about frauds, one person voted 29 times in Michigan. Also if your system is so secure why are y'all always bitching about fraud when the other side wins an election? In normal counties we don't have this bullshit.

It is so in character for you to take individual examples and pretending it's a widespread phenomenon. I don't understand how you can pretend you're superior to Americans when all you do is obsess over us, side with the most retarded subculture in the country, all while having absolutely no real knowledge on the matter. You know it's bad enough when I have to school your tush on things you should be more knowledgeable about than yours truly.

I'd be red with shame if I were you.