Character Discussion Confirmed: Kizaru Was "Mentally Nerfed" From The Very Start

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#5
No shit, are you figuring this out just now
But eventually he did push through and use his powers, in certain aspects, to the best of his ability, like sending Snakeman flying, or his defense against Gear5 being at its best, it’s just that he didn’t have the motivation to do his task and kept stalling, eventually leading to WSG after they disengaged combat
And then he fed Luffy 😭
 
#10
He showed up and saw Luffys abilities in g4 and hoped that someone strong enough to beat Kaido could hopefully defeat him and save Vegapunk.

He purposely took a WSG as a way to pretend he was injured so strawhats could escape, but then saw Saturn and said "this is bad".

Then he feeds Luffy hoping he could save Bonney (but Luffy couldn't get up and Kuma had to show up instead).

He then is stalling and also follows order to kill Bonney hoping Luffy would move already, as Vegapunk gets poisoned by Saturn.

He then mercy kills Vegapunk to give him a painless death and fully mentally checks out, allowing Luffy to grab and throw him.

He remains physically uninjured and only talks about his emotional pain for remainder of arc.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#12
#19
Pretty weird to see you say that so confidently.

How do you rank Kizaru Luffy Big Mom Kaido and Akainu currently.
I think its better to judge once Kizaru and akainu go full all out. We do not know whether they will have awakening or adv coc and they will make huge difference in how they get ranked. Luffy himself can get better feats in elbaf.

For now --

--Akainu ( Adv coc + awakening)
--Kaido/Akainu/Kizaru (Only logia awakening)
--Akainu (If he gets neither adv coc or awakening)
--Kizaru (No awakening)/Big mom
--Current Luffy (due to G5 timelimit)
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#20
I think its better to judge once Kizaru and akainu go full all out. We do not know whether they will have awakening or adv coc and they will make huge difference in how they get ranked. Luffy himself can get better feats in elbaf.

For now --

--Akainu ( Adv coc + awakening)
--Kaido/Akainu/Kizaru (Only logia awakening)
--Akainu (If he gets neither adv coc or awakening)
--Kizaru (No awakening)/Big mom
--Current Luffy (due to G5 timelimit)
You rank full power Luffy below Big Mom after Wano? That's insane.
 
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