Break Week Insane Shanks, Mihawk, Blackbeard Hype! (Sandman Translation)

[Salah WG]

For those who don't know what this means,

1. Shanks can Perform Roger's Signature Attack "Divine Departure" at Age of 15
2. He can already use Advanced CoC at Age of 15
3. Can Copy Pirate King Level Techniques without Instructions
4. Even Prime Rayleigh couldn't Copy it

This should help People realize how Insane it is for WB to talk about Legendary Duels between Shanks & Mihawk,
And also why Buggy said that Shanks was supposed to be Best of them (Forgot exact wording),
And also why Shanks is so Stressed about a Guy (Blackbeard) who managed to Scar him in his Young Days,
That Duel is also probably what gave Mihawk his Title of Greatest Swordsman,
It's also why Mihawk doesn't see anyone Stronger than Shanks

When Oda shows Real Power of Shanks, Mihawk & Blackbeard (Dragon too imo), this so-called Pirate King Level won't be fun to play with anymore.

 

[Daves John]

How do you know he could use it with CoC at that age?

He might have remembered it and mastered it by himself later in life

 

[Salah WG]

How do you know he could use it with CoC at that age?

He might have remembered it and mastered it by himself later in life

Most Roger Pirates Died/Captured after Roger's Execution,
Shanks never met even Buggy (His Closest Friend among them) again after his Execution and before Marineford

Translation said that Roger Pirates were All Surprised,
Oda could have said just Rayleigh then, not entire Roger Pirates

It also matches with what Buggy said to him after Roger's Execution,
Shanks clearly proved to them his Insane Potential

 

[KingOnizam]

Why would a flying ACOC slash be so hard to use? Implies there's something special about Roger's "divine" techniques.

 

[JoNdule]

For those who don't know what this means,

1. Shanks can Perform Roger's Signature Attack "Divine Departure" at Age of 15
2. He can already use Advanced CoC at Age of 15
3. Can Copy Pirate King Level Techniques without Instructions
4. Even Prime Rayleigh couldn't Copy it

This should help People realize how Insane it is for WB to talk about Legendary Duels between Shanks & Mihawk,
And also why Buggy said that Shanks was supposed to be Best of them (Forgot exact wording),
And also why Shanks is so Stressed about a Guy (Blackbeard) who managed to Scar him in his Young Days,
That Duel is also probably what gave Mihawk his Title of Greatest Swordsman,
It's also why Mihawk doesn't see anyone Stronger than Shanks

When Oda shows Real Power of Shanks, Mihawk & Blackbeard (Dragon too imo), this so-called Pirate King Level won't be fun to play with anymore.

Lol
No wonder why you were so sure of zkk happening

You always go on creating things that isn't there

Shanks mastering divine departure =/= being adcc user at 15 or whatever.
He wasn't even top tier 12 years ago and also became yonko level only 6 years ago

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Did you forgot WB vs Roger pirates fought when Shanks was around 15. He was literally fodder while Rayleigh didn't have a scratch on him then older Shanks got scar on guard by no fruit BB while Yonkou BB got shook of way out of his prime Rayleigh. So OP stop talking nonesense

 

[Sir Yasheen]

1. The attack doesn’t necessitate ACoC. It’s likely shanks learned the attack as a kid then learned to imbue it with ACoC much later.

2. Literally were shown shit like this happen in verse with the scabbards learning oden two sword style and the techniques there but not being able to mimic odens ACoC.

3. The attack itself isn’t PK Tier. Roger is.

Shanks isn’t pirate king tier and sure as hell wasn’t that level at 15 years old.

 

[Daves John]

Most Roger Pirates Died/Captured after Roger's Execution,
Shanks never met even Buggy (His Closest Friend among them) again after his Execution and before Marineford

Translation said that Roger Pirates were All Surprised,
Oda could have said just Rayleigh then, not entire Roger Pirates

It also matches with what Buggy said to him after Roger's Execution,
Shanks clearly proved to them his Insane Potential

Do we know that for sure? Roger is the only one whose arrest and death were confirmed and we know Shanks is seeing Rayleigh at least.

If this was stated in the manga, it would make more sense to discuss it, but making such deep analysis over SBS is a bit of a stretch

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The attack itself isn’t PK Tier. Roger is.

Idk man, being able to do something that prime Rayleigh wasn't is a pretty good indicator of being up there.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Do we know that for sure? Roger is the only one whose arrest and death were confirmed and we know Shanks is seeing Rayleigh at least.

If this was stated in the manga, it would make more sense to discuss it, but making such deep analysis over SBS is a bit of a stretch

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Idk man, being able to do something that prime Rayleigh wasn't is a pretty good indicator of being up there.

It’s really not. It’s like saying Kinemon is Oden tier because he could use Oden 2 Sword Style.

 

[Daves John]

It’s really not. It’s like saying Kinemon is Oden tier because he could use Oden 2 Sword Style.

No, because there is no Scabbard that is at all comparable to Oden in any way.

Meanwhile, Rayleigh could hold off Yonko and Admiral even deep in old age and is certified Yonko level in his prime, if not higher.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No, because there is no Scabbard that is at all comparable to Oden in any way.

Meanwhile, Rayleigh could hold off Yonko and Admiral even deep in old age and is certified Yonko level in his prime, if not higher.

What are you even trying to say there is no mention in this translation that no other Roger Pirate could use Divinie Departure… the impressive thing was that Shanks could teach himself the technique like the scabbards did for Togen Totsuka.

 

[Daves John]

What are you even trying to say there is no mention in this translation that no other Roger Pirate could use Divinie Departure… the impressive thing was that Shanks could teach himself the technique like the scabbards did for Togen Totsuka.

Re-read the end.

"And no one else in Roger's pirates could copy it"

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Re-read the end.

"And no one else in Roger's pirates could copy it"

Fair enough, but no other Roger Pirate fights like Roger? I doubt Gaban was going to do it with his axes or Rayleigh with his broadsword would use the same techniques as two people who used Sabers… that’s not how swords work.

 

[Daves John]

Fair enough, but no other Roger Pirate fights like Roger? I doubt Gaban was going to do it with his axes or Rayleigh with his broadsword would use the same techniques as two people who used Sabers… that’s not how swords work.

Why would Oda then say "no one else could copy it" as if it was an impressive feat?

Especially since Rayleigh is also using a 1 handed sword, just like Roger

 

[Redboy776]

OP is wrong.


1- there is no mention of Rayleigh being incapable to copy kamusari, just that the roger pirates as a whole couldn't.
For all we know Ray might simply not be interested in copying Roger when he got his own style like any top swordsman has their own style, the style of the dark king that can tople any other pirate beside Roger himself. Since he has his own style, he got his own signature move too and doesn't need to copy it from anyone else.


2- no mention of shanks using coc at 15.


3- Still shanks being able to use kamusari a move that need top sword skill hype his strength alot and by extension Mihawk who sword skill is even superior that red hair.

4- blackbeard didn't show any fear about shanks not even in Marineford and even provoked him further by mentioning his eye scare, same shanks we now know impressed the Roger pirates by copying kamusari yet same blackboard in return was afraid of Ray so like you can see itsnt as simple as A+B since shanks is fated to loose to someone Ray was confident he beat in his prime.

 

[MonsterKaido]

1. The attack doesn’t necessitate ACoC. It’s likely shanks learned the attack as a kid then learned to imbue it with ACoC much later.

2. Literally were shown shit like this happen in verse with the scabbards learning oden two sword style and the techniques there but not being able to mimic odens ACoC.

3. The attack itself isn’t PK Tier. Roger is.

Shanks isn’t pirate king tier and sure as hell wasn’t that level at 15 years old.

/Thread. Stupid thread.

 

[Ven437]

Bro Shanks is about to get whooped by his real daddy from Marejois, leader of the Gorosei

 

[kekaro]

This makes Rayleigh weaker than already assumed, since the Japanese text sounds like they did try and failed, hence no one COULD copy it

Rest of the post is kinda headcanon

 

[Salah WG]

Do we know that for sure? Roger is the only one whose arrest and death were confirmed and we know Shanks is seeing Rayleigh at least.

If this was stated in the manga, it would make more sense to discuss it, but making such deep analysis over SBS is a bit of a stretch

It's not really a deep analysis, it's simply what the Translation says,
It says that Roger Pirates were All surprised, it's clearly talking about when They were together,
It's not like Shanks went to look for handful few who survived & started showing off his Technique & convinced them that Roger never taught it to him

Sandman as well added that comment, so it's not really my analysis, He also concluded from what He read that Shanks did it at 15 & even Rayleigh couldn't do it,

This isn't a De-Hype for Rayleigh, it simply means that the Feat isn't impressive because Shanks just mimicked Roger's Movement,
The fact that Roger Pirates failed to do it, and it was implied that Roger's Instructions wd be needed if anyone tried to learn it, indicates that they agreed just from witnessing it that there are requirements for it that cannot be copied, and that's clearly adv. coc control

Also Sword Techniques are defined by what they create, not how they are performed,
For example, Zoro used Tatsumaki without Swords, why is it still Tatsu Maki? Cuz the Technique is named after what it creates, not what was used to create it, it's about creating a Tornado hence that name, regardless if Zoro used no swords or three or five swords or just metal bats

Same thing here or any technique, would Hiken be called Hiken if it was just the punch without any fire coming out?
Divine Departure is defined by what it unleashes & we've seen that it's an Adv. CoC Slash (Divine is clearly tied to it)

And again, Sandman also added such comment, that Shanks could probably use Adv. CoC since 15 year old,
I didn't add anything, i simply put his Translation (Statement from Oda himself) with what He concluded from it

This imo is a Hype for Shanks, Mihawk & Blackbeard, that's all.
I never said that they surpassed Roger at young age, i'm only saying that their Potential is possibly higher than him.

 

[ZenZu]

The only thing your discovery did was make Rayleigh look bad.