Powers & Abilities Considering Shanks' mastery of divine departure

[LolonoisZolo]

Dude, Mihawk literally said that being PK was literally harder than being WSS.

And Shanks, as stated many time, is Roger's golden boy.

Mihawk never was stated to won against Shanks, never. Heck, Mihawk even went to far and said he wont challenge Shanks when he has 1 arm, which means that thejr duels were never ended.

Mihawk is so resented that he is searching for someone like Shanks lol.

They gave Mihawk his title while Shanks had his title as Yonko... nothing sets Mihawk above Shanks. Mihawk was so damn scared to fight Teach, Luffy and Shanks when Buggy said they were after OP lol.

- Yes he did say that and he was right, because PK requires strenght, allies, and luck as shown with Roger, Luffy AND Buggy lmao
- It doesn t need to be stated explicitely, what we know is that Mihawk is the WSS and when someone is said to be the strongest then he is stronger than the others...as simple as that...
- Let s see, Mihawk arrives on Shanks' Island making everyone panic, strolls calmly to the captain and insults him in front of his OG crew and then gets offered a drink, meanwhile Shank immediately tries to grab his sword and then serves Mihawk said drink...you tell me who came out looking better.
- No, he is searching for someone stronger than Shanks, don't try to twist it.
- ''They gave'' ? Who the heck are ''they'' lmao
- His title puts him above Shanks
- ''Scared'' hahah they guy who travels the world on a coffin byhimselg is scared ? whatever lets you sleep at night.

 

[Seraphoenix]

So why didn’t he do it to Akainu in MF…..

Tha fact you legitimately think this would remotely happen lets us all know with clown is lmao

Why didn’t Roger or Beard or Kaidou do what you jus said…..

Why would he do that to Akainu? He came to stop the war, not escalate it by killing Akainu. Your reading comprehension is shit, which is why you have these crappy views. Learn to read.

Who told you Roger can't do it? clown

 

[centurion]

Lore reason:
none of Roger crew even tried to copy it, on top of it being just a mid move (obviously not Roger’s strongest) on similar terms to Luffy’s Pistol / Kong Gun / Red Roc , etc…

Real reason:
Loda simply wanted more reason to wank and glaze his self insert Rat Hair, nothing else

 

[Jiihad]

Why would he do that to Akainu? He came to stop the war, not escalate it by killing Akainu. Your reading comprehension is shit, which is why you have these crappy views. Learn to read.

Who told you Roger can't do it? clown

So why didn’t he WIFI diff Akainu to make em stop? Why’d he have to do it physically? He didn’t have to with GreenBull, he was able to de-escalthat. So why didn’t he de-escalate MF tha same way……

Ahh yes, my takes are shit but tha guy who thinks one top tier kan beat 3 top tiers at once is tha totally logical and reasonable guy/take

Kool, now show me any manga indication that Roger kan do it

 

[Kiiro]

- Yes he did say that and he was right, because PK requires strenght, allies, and luck as shown with Roger, Luffy AND Buggy lmao
- It doesn t need to be stated explicitely, what we know is that Mihawk is the WSS and when someone is said to be the strongest then he is stronger than the others...as simple as that...
- Let s see, Mihawk arrives on Shanks' Island making everyone panic, strolls calmly to the captain and insults him in front of his OG crew and then gets offered a drink, meanwhile Shank immediately tries to grab his sword and then serves Mihawk said drink...you tell me who came out looking better.
- No, he is searching for someone stronger than Shanks, don't try to twist it.
- ''They gave'' ? Who the heck are ''they'' lmao
- His title puts him above Shanks
- ''Scared'' hahah they guy who travels the world on a coffin byhimselg is scared ? whatever lets you sleep at night.

Shanks > Mihawk.

Mihawk will never achieve what Shanks has done.

Didnt see Mihawk 1 shotting Vista.

Kidd > Vista.

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And you literally using frienda as Shanks and Mihawk to show Mihawk is better? Lol

I guess that guy who also insulted Shanks and throw his drink is stronger.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Shanks > Mihawk.

Mihawk will never achieve what Shanks has done.

Didnt see Mihawk 1 shotting Vista.

Kidd > Vista.

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And you literally using frienda as Shanks and Mihawk to show Mihawk is better? Lol

I guess that guy who also insulted Shanks and throw his drink is stronger.

Mihawk already achieved the maximum and is now sitting at the top waiting for a worthy challenger and, spoiler alert, it is not Shanks.
Didn't see Roger one shotting anyone so he is fodder ?

 

[Jiihad]

Mihawk will never achieve what Shanks has done.

You’ve got it backwards, Shanks will never accomplish what Mihawk has

There’s only 2 people(3 if you count IMU) who kan legitimately say “I’ve won” Roger, Mihawk and Imu. Roger won in tha Pirate Race. Mihawk won tha race of WSS and Imu won tha war 1000 years ago. Thats it, that’s tha entire list, legitimately EVERYONE else is a straight up loser. Oh and WB he’s tha outlier as well, he won and could’ve shut shit down if he chose to but decided not to

 

[Erkan12]

You’ve got it backwards, Shanks will never accomplish what Mihawk has

There’s only 2 people(3 if you count IMU) who kan legitimately say “I’ve won” Roger, Mihawk and Imu. Roger won in tha Pirate Race. Mihawk won tha race of WSS and Imu won tha war 1000 years ago. Thats it, that’s tha entire list, legitimately EVERYONE else is a straight up loser. Oh and WB he’s tha outlier as well, he won and could’ve shut shit down if he chose to but decided not to

Lmao, no one ever said Mihawk's goal was to be WGS, Mihawk didn't start like Zolo to be WGS only and make someone else PK like Zolo wants Luffy being PK, Mihawk is a pirate, WGS is a byproduct, being pirate is the first goal. If not then Mihawk failed to make his captain PK. Imu's goal is uncertain as well, you make up some weird assumptions, why would Imu want to be King of the World but no one knows his existence, couldn't even show his face and he didn't conquer New World territories as he wanted Wano, couldn't get Nika DF etc etc.

Mihawk is a pirate, the goal is to be Great Pirate and PK, Mihawk failed that.

Mihawk was betrayed by someone then he started to hunt Marines. He failed as a pirate.

Mihawk also failed to protect his own home island lmao.

 

[Kiiro]

Mihawk already achieved the maximum and is now sitting at the top waiting for a worthy challenger and, spoiler alert, it is not Shanks.
Didn't see Roger one shotting anyone so he is fodder ?

You not seeing Roger, aint what determines facts. You also didnt Roger having sex, yet we have Ace.

But we did see Vista vs Mihawk and he wasnt 1 shotted. Kidd > Vista btw.

Dude, Mihawk achieved nothing against top tiers. At Marineford he even wondered how far he was from WB. He is strong, sure. But nothing really is conclusive to say he is stronger than Shanks, or better.

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You’ve got it backwards, Shanks will never accomplish what Mihawk has

There’s only 2 people(3 if you count IMU) who kan legitimately say “I’ve won” Roger, Mihawk and Imu. Roger won in tha Pirate Race. Mihawk won tha race of WSS and Imu won tha war 1000 years ago. Thats it, that’s tha entire list, legitimately EVERYONE else is a straight up loser. Oh and WB he’s tha outlier as well, he won and could’ve shut shit down if he chose to but decided not to

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And Kaido won the race of WSC.

And Big Mom won the race of WSW.

And WB won the race of WSM.

And Shanks was their equal... Worlds Strongest 1 hand? Lol.

At least Shanks is fighting multiple top tiers to be PK, while Mihawk... fought who? Vista?

Nope. Not even Vista. We all know that Mihawk's title is given by expectors, of what they think. Zoro at Dresrossa alrwady was being paired with Mihawk.... so...

 

[JoNdule]

Lore reason:
none of Roger crew even tried to copy it, on top of it being just a mid move (obviously not Roger’s strongest) on similar terms to Luffy’s Pistol / Kong Gun / Red Roc , etc…

Real reason:
Loda simply wanted more reason to wank and glaze his self insert Rat Hair, nothing else

Divine departure is Roger's signature. One of his best moves

Watch out for Oda to make Roger have different versions of this move just like he made Kaido do TB lite, TB expresso, Thunder bagua super lite ....

 

[Eustass_Kidd_>_Zoro]

i absolutely despise mihawk and zoro fans and if anyone wants a reason just like at the logic this dude is using smfh....

 

[park_min young]

Lore reason:
none of Roger crew even tried to copy it, on top of it being just a mid move (obviously not Roger’s strongest) on similar terms to Luffy’s Pistol / Kong Gun / Red Roc , etc…

Real reason:
Loda simply wanted more reason to wank and glaze his self insert Rat Hair, nothing else

It’s Roger’s signature move, it’s a big deal to be able to recreate it. I’m pretty sure that Oda never thought about the details before reading this question but he’s making a point now that what Shanks did is something special.

 

[JoNdule]

Even Oda hyped Yamato's progress by making her finally match hybrid Kaido's TB speed and also land her own Hybrid Thunder bagua.
Both were using CoC.
Yamato has been replicating Kaido's moves since she was a kid until she mastered even TB.

Shanks is basically Yamato in this case,
She has been training to master Divine Departure until he managed doing so. He first could have been doing it without mastering CoC coating , then afterwards when he became stronger and stronger, he started doing the real thing as Roger did

 

[Jiihad]

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And Kaido won the race of WSC.

And Big Mom won the race of WSW.

And WB won the race of WSM.

And Shanks was their equal... Worlds Strongest 1 hand? Lol.

At least Shanks is fighting multiple top tiers to be PK, while Mihawk... fought who? Vista?

Nope. Not even Vista. We all know that Mihawk's title is given by expectors, of what they think. Zoro at Dresrossa alrwady was being paired with Mihawk.... so...

Is Shanks tha WSS….or tha PK? If tha answer is no, then he’s factually a loser/second place silver medalist. End of discussion lmao, you ain’t gotta like it, but he’s factually a career loser who couldn’t claim either throne on his own merit…..

He’s their equal but has NEVER held any Workds Strongest Title……again a loser

 

[Erkan12]

Is Shanks tha WSS….or tha PK? If tha answer is no, then he’s factually a loser/second place silver medalist. End of discussion lmao, you ain’t gotta like it, but he’s factually a career loser who couldn’t claim either throne on his own merit…..

He’s their equal but has NEVER held any Workds Strongest Title……again a loser

Just turn back read what you just replied. Do you think Mihawk is not a pirate? While you are calling ''Great'' Pirates such as Shanks a loser but Not Great Pirate Mihawk is a not a loser?

- Who told you Mihawk the pirate never had any goal to be PK?
- Who told you Mihawk the pirate never wanted to make someone else PK if not himself? (similar to Zolo want Luffy)

Since you don't know the answer to these questions, your Mihawk rant is just crazy.

- Mihawk the pirate failed to protect his home island and forced to be equals with Crocodile, thats certain, thats an L.

If Mihawk is such a winner, why he is equal partners with ''loser'' Crocodile, and accepting to be underling to ''hide'' behind ''loser'' Buggy? (Oda's words)

Oda: ''Mihawk hide behind Buggy's shadow''

Did I just prove your Mihawk rant is crazy? Be objective for once.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Just turn back read what you just replied. Do you think Mihawk is not a pirate? While you are calling ''Great'' Pirates such as Shanks a loser but Not Great Pirate Mihawk is a not a loser?

- Who told you Mihawk the pirate never had any goal to be PK?
- Who told you Mihawk the pirate never wanted to make someone else PK if not himself? (similar to Zolo want Luffy)

Since you don't know the answer to these questions, your Mihawk rant is just crazy.

- Mihawk the pirate failed to protect his home island and forced to be equals with Crocodile, thats certain, thats an L.

If Mihawk is such a winner, why he is equal partners with ''loser'' Crocodile, and accepting to be underling to ''hide'' behind ''loser'' Buggy? (Oda's words)

Oda: ''Mihawk hide behind Buggy's shadow''

Did I just prove your Mihawk rant is crazy? Be objective for once.

Lol seriously ? Now we are going to add stuff to the manga because we don't like x character ?
''Who told you Mihawk didn't want to be PK'' ???? The manga ?
If the information comes out then it's canon but until then, Mihawk is the WSS and is bored because there is no challenge to be had anymore...that's what the manga mentions since East Blue with reminders every now and then.

 

[Erkan12]

Lol seriously ? Now we are going to add stuff to the manga because we don't like x character ?
''Who told you Mihawk didn't want to be PK'' ???? The manga ?
If the information comes out then it's canon but until then, Mihawk is the WSS and is bored because there is no challenge to be had anymore...that's what the manga mentions since East Blue with reminders every now and then.

WGS doesn't need to be a pirate. But Mihawk is a pirate. No one ever said Mihawk's goal was only to be WGS. Thats saying like WB's goal was to be WSM or Kaido's goal was to be WSC etc. , those titles are byproduct, they are pirates first. WB's goal was to go on a adventure with his family and plunder Roger's ship. Thats when both met their match and competed for being a greater pirate.

So you are saying Mihawk was betrayed for hunting small time pirates like Don Krieg, he didn't have any ambition to be a bigger pirate?

What was Mihawk's objective while being a pirate and why he was betrayed if he wasn't planning something bigger?

How does Mihawk know how difficult being PK is if he didn't try it?

Either;

- Mihawk is a dumbass thats talking about something he doesn't know.
- Mihawk tried to be PK and failed. Thus ''betrayal'' Oda talk about make sense.

Mihawk can't be winner while being equals with ''loser'' Crocodile and hide behind ''loser'' Buggy's shadow, and forced to leave his home island vs fodder Marines, joined Croco out of desperation. Don't call Mihawk's equal and superior loser then call Mihawk as a winner Lmao

 

[LolonoisZolo]

WGS doesn't need to be a pirate. But Mihawk is a pirate. No one ever said Mihawk's goal was only to be WGS. Thats saying like WB's goal was to be WSM or Kaido's goal was to be WSC etc. , those titles are byproduct, they are pirates first. WB's goal was to go on a adventure with his family and plunder Roger's ship. Thats when both met their match and competed for being a greater pirate.

So you are saying Mihawk was betrayed for hunting small time pirates like Don Krieg, he didn't have any ambition to be a bigger pirate?

What was Mihawk's objective while being a pirate and why he was betrayed if he wasn't planning something bigger?

How does Mihawk know how difficult being PK is if he didn't try it?

Either;

- Mihawk is a dumbass thats talking about something he doesn't know.
- Mihawk tried to be PK and failed. Thus ''betrayal'' Oda talk about make sense.

Mihawk can't be winner while being equals with ''loser'' Crocodile and hide behind ''loser'' Buggy's shadow, and forced to leave his home island vs fodder Marines, joined Croco out of desperation. Don't call Mihawk's equal and superior loser then call Mihawk as a winner Lmao

We have no idea in what context he was ''betrayed'',, you're just asuming he was a pirate and pass it as the truth.
If anything and by gathering the crumbs that we have, he may have been a MARINE and got beyrayed by someone he considered a friend in the MARINE and so started his hunt against the MARINE; still speculation but more viable than him pursuing PK or being in the crew of a wannabe PK and then gets betrayed and decides to hunt marine to get his revenge lol wtf ?
Your hate blinds you to the point where your brain only sees ONE possibility and it's not even the most likely...

To summarize what we know though, Mihawk is the WSS in title and in reality and any other swordsman is automatically below him which brings us to the topic of Shanks being weaker than Mihawk, especially now that he only has one arm...

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Oh and to answer the other question about Mihawk's goal; we have no idea what it is but again, with dialogues we have we can conclude that he always pursuied the ultimate swordsmanship since he was said to have sailed around and challenged everyone until there were no more capable of giving him a challenge especially after Shanks lost an arm...These information are known!!!! The rest is poetry.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Kaido and Big Mom together with combo attack couldn't oneshot Zoro who still isn't ready to face Mihawk and has a 1.11B bounty.

taking 1% of an attack isn’t the durability feat you think it is

Kaido has far greater haki and stats. No reason to think he couldn’t 1 shot Zoro.

Just for reference, Luffy needed to become a sky splitter to even begin to tank Kaido’s named ACoC attacks.

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It is VERY simple for Mihawk haters and Shanks glazers.

There is NO reality where Mihawk is not super busted in terms of power after the latest reveal about Divine Departure. That ship has sailed fully.

Option Number 1:

Shanks even as a damn cabin boy had cracked levels of Haki. Like, above Prime Rayleigh and Oden level. That is why he could pull off the move while Rayleigh could not if you just insist on it still being a pure Haki move, with no swordsmanship or “skill” being involved.

In this scenario, a much older and experienced Shanks fought Mihawk in legendary duels and had at WORST Roger-lite Haki levels while doing so. To be clear, this is the one Shanks glazers should hope for since it elevates him to be a prodigy in Haki, the only thing you give a fuck about.

Option Number 2:

Roger was such a ridiculously skilled swordsman, that Shanks was the only person gifted enough in swordsmanship to copy Divine Departure/learn it. Its not after all a Haki move, and Shanks merely is a such a gifted swordsman he surpassed somebody like Oden. A confirmed Roger pirate and swordsmen that scared Kaido but never learned Divine Departure either despite having it literally used on him.

Pick your poison honestly.

Option 3: Shanks didn’t fully master divine departure until he actually became a yonko

Roger pirate Shanks merely had an ACoA version of the attack, if he even could use it at all. It was like Honesty Impact vs Galaxy impact.

 

[Jiihad]

Just turn back read what you just replied. Do you think Mihawk is not a pirate? While you are calling ''Great'' Pirates such as Shanks a loser but Not Great Pirate Mihawk is a not a loser?

- Who told you Mihawk the pirate never had any goal to be PK?
- Who told you Mihawk the pirate never wanted to make someone else PK if not himself? (similar to Zolo want Luffy)

Since you don't know the answer to these questions, your Mihawk rant is just crazy.

- Mihawk the pirate failed to protect his home island and forced to be equals with Crocodile, thats certain, thats an L.

If Mihawk is such a winner, why he is equal partners with ''loser'' Crocodile, and accepting to be underling to ''hide'' behind ''loser'' Buggy?

Tha only thing we know bout Mihawk is that he’s tha WSS and accomplished his goal. Mihawk is a swordsman and has never even implied or anything that he’s ever gone for tha PK title, so we can only go off what his ONLY goal is. And he accomplished it

And that great pirate is a career loser right alongside Kaidou and Big Mam. If they were ACTUAL winners etc they would’ve became tha PK. Instead they aren’t good enough, and HAVE to settle for being Yonko, a title that is OBJECTIVELY and INHERENTLY a silver medalist and tha first losers of tha race for tha throne……

He was forced to be Crocodiles equal….so by your OWN logic, BlackBeard was FORCED to be Kuzans equal too then right, right…..

Mihawk has a Worlds Strongest title, something Shanks has never had and will never have. So yes, Mihawk accomplished what he set out to do and Shanks has not, that is tha definition of a loser