Speculations Why couldn’t Rayleigh learn Kamusari?

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#47
Ray got put in the same bracket as wb
:specialmeh: by ur goat s techer garp
Yeah he is a top tier just like Shiki, but Kaido who knew both Ray and Shiki pretty well knew oden was above them.
What can I tell you, get mad at oda not me, if Kaido thinks about strongest pirates he thinks about Shanks, Roger and Oden not Payleigh.
Well at least you can still say that Kaido didn't face Mihawk, but for Ray and Shiki I am sorry but God valley exist.
 
#48
Yeah he is a top tier just like Shiki, but Kaido who knew both Ray and Shiki pretty well knew oden was above them.
What can I tell you, get mad at oda not me, if Kaido thinks about strongest pirates he thinks about Shanks, Roger and Oden not Payleigh.
Well at least you can still say that Kaido didn't face Mihawk, but for Ray and Shiki I am sorry but God valley exist.
Lmaoo clown added pirates out of his ass
You absolute ape piece of trash he literally chose to keep Garp, the literal equal of Roger and one who completely outshined Whitebeard in God's Valley out as well.

Tell me where did Kaido say only "Pirates" dipshit? Who cares if one fighting him is a pirate a marine a giant or a fucking circus clown?

Shanks cum swallowers are the biggest pieces of trashes one can ever see.

SHANKS WILL NEVER BE AS STRONG AS RAYLEIGH.
HE IS A PUPPY DOG COMPARED TO RAYLEIGH AND A ROGER WANNA BE WHO COPIES ROGER"S MOVE LIKE A FUCKING FAN BOY.
 
#51
Tell me where did Kaido say only "Pirates" dipshit?
Literally fucking context, he was thinking about Luffy statement about becoming the pirate king, an user here on this forum made it clear, @kurwa .


So yup it's fucking clear it's about fucking Pirates, the rest is copium because their fab didn't get in Kaido top 5. Oda is already kinda messy when it comes to be explicit, dunno how the fuck we got some power scaling shit from him and the Fandom ignores it without understanding the scene.
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It's not just about who can harm him, shit, he knows very well Yamato can for example, he chooses the 5 greatest pirates and from the context since there is a whole discussion about becoming king of the pirates then it flashes in Kaido's mind "you're implying that you're great as much as them?” but what is Kaido referring to here with that *are you implying* you mistakenly think he is referring to the blow he suffered, as if he were appealing to the blow he just received and as if the fact that it could damage him is an implication that is as big as them, but it's wrong lol, it literally refers to what Luffy is saying in words with his wanting to surpass them and become king of pirates, Kaido who was damaged is shocked, he thinks "what happened to him in kuri? Few can harm me" and then separately echoes Luffy's words "are you implying that you're as big as them?" almost as if he was indignant as if to say "are you implying by your words that you believe you are as great as them?" and brings out the top pirates he has met throughout his life and yes, Kaido knows Shiki and Rayleigh very well.
 
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#52
Literally fucking context, he was thinking about Luffy statement about becoming the pirate king, an user here on this forum made it clear, @kurwa .


So yup it's fucking clear it's about fucking Pirates, the rest is copium because their fab didn't get in Kaido top 5. Oda is already kinda messy when it comes to be explicit, dunno how the fuck we got some power scaling shit from him and the Fandom ignores it without understanding the scene.
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It's not just about who can harm him, shit, he knows very well Yamato can for example, he chooses the 5 greatest pirates and from the context since there is a whole discussion about becoming king of the pirates then it flashes in Kaido's mind "you're implying that you're great as much as them?” but what is Kaido referring to here with that *are you implying* you mistakenly think he is referring to the blow he suffered, as if he were appealing to the blow he just received and as if the fact that it could damage him is an implication that is as big as them, but it's wrong lol, it literally refers to what Luffy is saying in words with his wanting to surpass them and become king of pirates, Kaido who was damaged is shocked, he thinks "what happened to him in kuri? Few can harm me" and then separately echoes Luffy's words "are you implying that you're as big as them?" almost as if he was indignant as if to say "are you implying by your words that you believe you are as great as them?" and brings out the top pirates he has met throughout his life and yes, Kaido knows Shiki and Rayleigh very well.
No you ass wipe he is saying to become Pirate King you need that much strength.

Oden in Kaidos mind is hardly a pirate..he refers to him as a Samurai..there will never be a SAMURAI as monstrous as Oden.

You Shanks dick deep throating Zoro hating piece of trash..try again and prove to me Kaido is talking about Pirates only.
 
#53
It’s actually pretty fun how these clowns said that kamusari is not a sword technique and it’s just swinging ur sword really hard bat but now we know it’s an extremely difficult technique which only shanks can replicate
As a Shanks fan, I never thought about it this way.

I dont know who are those clowns y'all keep shitting on. At least tag them @ShishioIsBack

Shanks dont need to be stronger than Mihawk or Ray.

It is surprising that nobody talks about Shanks' character itself. He was influenced by Roger. He firmly believes in fate. Just like his captain believed the prophecy and said he is too early for this and then left everything for next generation.

That's who Shanks is. He is following his Captain's footsteps. He knew he cant do anything even if he obtained all of the poneglyphs.

For me, Shanks is someone who has accepted the reality and is content with it. He is not trying to be edgy, seeking revenge or plotting something.
 
#54
As always zoro'sdicksuckers can't read

What we know

> shanks is the only one, in the crew, who can copy kamusari

What they understand

"ray didn't want to do it, but he could" "ray has is own attacks, he doesn't need to copy roger" lmaooooo

Shanks is stronger, more skillfull and has a better and stronger haki

Shanks is overall better than ray, this is why he can and ray can't

Stop this retard take "ray = roger" only because u want zoro as strong as luffy, is even more stupid than "mihawk > roger"
 
#56
As always zoro'sdicksuckers can't read

What we know

> shanks is the only one, in the crew, who can copy kamusari

What they understand

"ray didn't want to do it, but he could" "ray has is own attacks, he doesn't need to copy roger" lmaooooo

Shanks is stronger, more skillfull and has a better and stronger haki

Shanks is overall better than ray, this is why he can and ray can't

Stop this retard take "ray = roger" only because u want zoro as strong as luffy, is even more stupid than "mihawk > roger"
You absolute monkey piece of trash bastard cunt

Show me where is it stated Rayleigh tried

You are a living embodiment of stupidity if you think 15 year old cabin boy getting no diffed by dfless teach has better Haki than Rayleigh
 
#58
You absolute monkey piece of trash bastard cunt

Show me where is it stated Rayleigh tried

You are a living embodiment of stupidity if you think 15 year old cabin boy getting no diffed by dfless teach has better Haki than Rayleigh
Oh, so u discover that extra manga info can be not accurate?

When vc/sbs/extra manga info reports something useful for your agend u use them when vc/others doesn't, u ignore them

Stop suck zoro's dick and use your brain sometimes, idiot

Roger > mihawk > shanks > ray

Luffy > zoro

As always has been

Stop this brainless agenda
 
#59
Oh, so u discover that extra manga info can be not accurate?

When vc/sbs/extra manga info reports something useful for your agend u use them when vc/others doesn't, u ignore them

Stop suck zoro's dick and use your brain sometimes, idiot

Roger > mihawk > shanks > ray

Luffy > zoro

As always has been

Stop this brainless agenda
No dipshit clown fuck
Show me where is it stated Rayleigh tried learning Roger's move

Rayleigh ~ Roger ~ Mihawk > 2 Arm Prime Shanks > Yonko Shanks

Zoro > Luffy
 
#60
As a Shanks fan, I never thought about it this way.

I dont know who are those clowns y'all keep shitting on. At least tag them @ShishioIsBack

Shanks dont need to be stronger than Mihawk or Ray.

It is surprising that nobody talks about Shanks' character itself. He was influenced by Roger. He firmly believes in fate. Just like his captain believed the prophecy and said he is too early for this and then left everything for next generation.

That's who Shanks is. He is following his Captain's footsteps. He knew he cant do anything even if he obtained all of the poneglyphs.

For me, Shanks is someone who has accepted the reality and is content with it. He is not trying to be edgy, seeking revenge or plotting something.
u are a pure fan cause of his character
Those guys are not , they push agendas everywhere

they try to make shanks into this shitty hakiman
Cause of mihawk

Just read the discussions around these quotes
OT :
shanks' kamusari with gryphon > shanks' kamusari with a fucking stick :myman:
its hilarious to me that these retards think roger doesnt have a school or style when shanks literally learned swordsmanship from him
cause if it doesnt have a school or style then practically any acoc swordsman can replicate kamusari with a single sword slash

in an alternate universe, zoro actually said kamusari here
Kamusari not being a sword technique was also pushed by these guys

and oda dunked on them with this sbs

It went from “ kamusari is not a sword technique, it can be used with a stick “ to “ kamusari is such a powerful sword technique that only shanks can inherit it“
 
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