Speculations Can Ryuma and Mihawk Do a Sky Split?

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Can Ryuma and Mihawk Do a Sky Split?
Okay, fellas. Let's do this. Is the sky split a distinct feature for conquerors and it sets them apart from everyone? Or are people like Ryuma and Mihawk capable of doing a Sky Split? If they can't, what does that mean regarding Shanks Vs. Mihawk?

 
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Maybe, but I don't think that tells very much about their strength,

I think some of the differences in opinion in powerscaling come from mainly two different views of haki, viewing haki like a power level, ki, that can be trained to get stronger, or vieweing haki based on the techniques it has, like saying someone with acoc always beats someone with only armament in strength,

Me I think haki is a thing you can train, the techniques are nice, but you don't need anything other than basic haki to be able to best anybody, if you train it enough, whether you have conqueror's haki or not,

So whether Mihawk or Ryuma have conqueror's haki or they don't, I don't think it changes their strength, because if they have even just armament, that means they just trained that and got it to be strong enough to do what they did,
 
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Rocks can be left out of the argument because he didn't show up in the story much at all and Garp was old and he hasn't ever tried to fight someone like an emperor since he got old. However, Mihawk has apparently stopped trying to duel Shanks since he had become an Emperor, and that's when Shanks was starting to do sky splits.

Not to mention we know Mihawk has resisted fighting any of the Emperors.
 
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Sky split? if hypothetically Mihawk and Prime Ryuuma were allowed to clash with their haki and black blades, it would create a void similar to a black hole that would consume the sky itself, any sea life or flying creatures within a 10 mile radius would be sucked into that void and die instantly

A clash between two black blades users on the highest level would dwarf Roger and WB's clash, if you were to put Roger Wb's clash and Ryuuma Mihawk's clash side by side, a visual comparison would be like this:
 
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Sky split? if hypothetically Mihawk and Prime Ryuuma were allowed to clash with their haki and black blades, it would create a void similar to a black hole that would consume the sky itself, any sea life or flying creatures within a 10 mile radius would be sucked into that void and die instantly

A clash between two black blades users on the highest level would dwarf Roger and WB's clash, if you were to put Roger Wb's clash and Ryuuma Mihawk's clash side by side, a visual comparison would be like this:
You've never seen two black blade people fight, so how would you know that?
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Sky split is a symbolic feat. You’re taking it far too seriously.
You're suggesting the sky just splits for no reason other than to show they have "power".

What if they just actually have power?
 
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You've never seen two black blade people fight, so how would you know that?
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You're suggesting the sky just splits for no reason other than to show they have "power".

What if they just actually have power?
The sky didn't split when roger and wb clashed, it literally cleared

So yes, depending on the strength behind the clash the instant affect would be different

The whole reason sky splits exist is to show a visual representation of what it looks like when 2 of the greatest pirates in a pirate manga clash, looks like. It's a visual benchmark of what luffy is working towards, so when he sky splits with kaido, that is a visual representation of showing the reader that Luffy is on the level of a Yonko.

It really doesn't mean much reading into it. If a swordsman can swing his sword and create pressurised wind strong enough to create a literal crevasse in the ground, or split an iceberg enveloping marineford. Then if two swordsman who can do the same thing clash with eachother, where does all that residue power go? it has to go somewhere, so the pressure from that could, for example, split the sky.

And if you want to go even further with this, the affect of two black blades clashing could have a different impact as well. Because we have statements saying WB's blade is durable enough to withstand his haki and quake fruit, black blades are even more durable than that, meaning they can withstand even more power than the quake fruit itself and prime whitebeards haki (at a minimum).

So hypothetically if there was a clash that was strong enough to break two supreme grade blades, with the amount of haki being poured into it, two black blades would have a much better chance of withstanding that pressure of haki, meaning the clash wouldn't abruptly end and therefore you would see much more devastating affects.
 
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However, Mihawk has apparently stopped trying to duel Shanks since he had become an Emperor, and that's when Shanks was starting to do sky splits.
And how do you know he never Sky Splits with Mihawk before?

I am just gonna leave this here. WB hyped up Pre Fish Shanks by stating (Everyone was shocked when you returned from EB with 1 arm) And never hinted/mentioned that Shanks got alot better since then.

So you saying thats when Shanks did this. Is all speculation. We have no idea.
 
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The sky didn't split when roger and wb clashed, it literally cleared

So yes, depending on the strength behind the clash the instant affect would be different

The whole reason sky splits exist is to show a visual representation of what it looks like when 2 of the greatest pirates in a pirate manga clash, looks like. It's a visual benchmark of what luffy is working towards, so when he sky splits with kaido, that is a visual representation of showing the reader that Luffy is on the level of a Yonko.

It really doesn't mean much reading into it. If a swordsman can swing his sword and create pressurised wind strong enough to create a literal crevasse in the ground, or split an iceberg enveloping marineford. Then if two swordsman who can do the same thing clash with eachother, where does all that residue power go? it has to go somewhere, so the pressure from that could, for example, split the sky.
You're making shit up, man.

The sky split is based on powerful Conquerors Haki clashing. Just cutting the sky with a sword isn't the same thing.
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And how do you know he never Sky Splits with Mihawk before?

I am just gonna leave this here. WB hyped up Pre Fish Shanks by stating (Everyone was shocked when you returned from EB with 1 arm) And never hinted/mentioned that Shanks got alot better since then.

So you saying thats when Shanks did this. Is all speculation. We have no idea.
Mihawk has never dueled Shanks as an emperor.
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Conquerors Haki clashes happen because extremely powerful and influential people fight.

We have never seen Mihawk or Ryuma do anything like that because they aren't influential people.
 
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He did sky splits around the same time he became an emperor. That's really all I'd said.

I don't think Mihawk tried to fight him after that point. He can claim it's because he doesn't want to fight a one armed swordsman, but we all know it's because he doesn't want to fight a Haki Chad.
 
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You've never seen two black blade people fight, so how would you know that?
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You're suggesting the sky just splits for no reason other than to show they have "power".

What if they just actually have power?
It’s just the narrative telling you « characters X/Y are great pirates ».
 
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It’s just the narrative telling you « characters X/Y are great pirates ».
You're crazy to think sky splitting is just for dramatic effect and has nothing to do with actual power. That argument basically concedes that you think Mihawk and Ryuma can't sky split too because you're trying to write it off as a nothing feat they shouldn't care about.

I see your tactic bro
 
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He did sky splits around the same time he became an emperor. That's really all I'd said.

I don't think Mihawk tried to fight him after that point. He can claim it's because he doesn't want to fight a one armed swordsman, but we all know it's because he doesn't want to fight a Haki Chad.
With whom? we have only seen the recent one Shanks vs WB.
 
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With whom? we have only seen the recent one Shanks vs WB.
And that's plenty enough for you to know he had been splitting skies as an emperor
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We haven't seen Rayleigh do a sky split. Why should Zoro or Mihawk or Ryuma?

Let's talk about it
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This is the Roger vs. Whitebeard clash. In this one, it didn't split the sky, but it did show a coc shockwave. Contextually, though, they weren't really fighting. They were kind of buddy buddy. Idk what to say about this other than it's a standard coc encounter.
 
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