Powers & Abilities Shanks, Fuji and Law, The Common Thing

#1
Some of you might have guessed what it was but some are still unaware. The thing that is common between Shanks, Fujitora and Law is that there fans have been trying in various degrees to disqualify them from being called a swordsman. The reason being simple that Mihawk is WSS and Zoro will be WSS and any and every swordsman is/will be automatically weaker than them. To protect their favs in the power scaling debates they resorted to disqualify their favs from being labeled as a swordsman.

Shanks
Too much evidence has been provided lately, should have been obvious from the start when him having duel/s with Mihawk was a thing but agenda fried all brain cells.

Fujitora
Should have been obvious, but new evidence of him having a Supreme Grade Sword, a sword style called Gravity Blade and his VC calling him a Dai Kengo pretty much confirms that he is a swordsman too. I dont remember the exact arguments for him not being a swordsman because the Shankstards really dominate this part of the argument with their stupidity. Do Admiral fans hold Green Bitch of the White Blade as a swordsman (because of the supposed black blade) and hence weaker than Mihawk or are they stupid enough to call a "black blade" wielder not a swordsman?

Law
I remember some arguments for him not being a swordsman, even though he carries a cursed blade, told Tashigi about swordsmanship etc. But now his novel is coming out and the story is about his journey of finding his cursed blade.

The funniest thing is that these disqualifiers bring King as a supporting argument when in the manga King himself says that he loves a good duel and his VC states his hobby (IIRC) being collecting swords.

Deny it as much as you want, try to ignore reality, the truth is your favs are swordsmen and are automatically weaker than Mihawk and Zoro (eventually, Law for sure is weaker even now).

@Fleet Leader Fenaker @nik87 @mly90 @CbShadow @HA001 @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @grey matter etc.
 
#2
The problem isn't just about Mihawk's Title, his Role also tells us that He is above those Characters,
When will They realize that SHs are Individuals with Impossible Dreams, and it's not what you need that makes those Dreams Impossible, it's the Obstacles themselves

It's not Reading Poneglyphs that is Difficult, Robin is already best at that, it's World Government that makes it an Impossible Task,
It's not Navigation that is Difficult, Nami is already best at that, it's World Climate that makes it an Impossible Task,
Same for Sanji's Dream, it's Red Line that makes Idea of All Blue Impossible,
... etc

Robin can read Poneglyphs, Nami can Navigate, Chopper can Study, Franky can Build, Zoro can Train ... etc
It's about who Prevents them from making their Dreams a Reality

In Zoro's Case, that's a Single Guy, and it's Mihawk
That means even without Mihawk's Title, i'd still put him above all those Characters,
Because Task of Beating Mihawk in 1v1 is as Impossible as any of SHs's Dreams

It's like when Laboon was hitting his Head against Red Line, that's how Impossible They are,
 
#4
Is there circular logic going on here?

Shanks will lose against the strongest swordsman because despite Shanks being a swordsman he isn't the world's strongest swordsman

Shanks will also lose against the next strongest swordsman because despite Shanks being a swordsman he isn't the world's next strongest swordsman

Is that really all you're trying to say?
 
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#5
This is alot of whine from the fanbase that if you look at this forum spams the word "Devil Fruit merchant" like a toddler
Seems like some internal projection going on here, if anyone I see on the constant trying to say Fuji or Law are not "true" swordsman is the SBS-Familytree fandom
 
#12
This is alot of whine from the fanbase that if you look at this forum spams the word "Devil Fruit merchant" like a toddler
Seems like some internal projection going on here, if anyone I see on the constant trying to say Fuji or Law are not "true" swordsman is the SBS-Familytree fandom
lol

on topic
if zoro wouldn't have existed then this debate would never matter

this is shanks :

the strongest swordsman is compared to him

this is law :

teaching tashigi what it means to be a swordsman

fujitora :

everything abt him screams the blind swordsman troupe
 
#13
In Zoro's Case, that's a Single Guy, and it's Mihawk
That means even without Mihawk's Title, i'd still put him above all those Characters,
Because Task of Beating Mihawk in 1v1 is as Impossible as any of SHs's Dreams
Oh so he's a sidequest then lol

Some of you might have guessed what it was but some are still unaware. The thing that is common between Shanks, Fujitora and Law is that there fans have been trying in various degrees to disqualify them from being called a swordsman. The reason being simple that Mihawk is WSS and Zoro will be WSS and any and every swordsman is/will be automatically weaker than them. To protect their favs in the power scaling debates they resorted to disqualify their favs from being labeled as a swordsman.

Shanks
Too much evidence has been provided lately, should have been obvious from the start when him having duel/s with Mihawk was a thing but agenda fried all brain cells.

Fujitora
Should have been obvious, but new evidence of him having a Supreme Grade Sword, a sword style called Gravity Blade and his VC calling him a Dai Kengo pretty much confirms that he is a swordsman too. I dont remember the exact arguments for him not being a swordsman because the Shankstards really dominate this part of the argument with their stupidity. Do Admiral fans hold Green Bitch of the White Blade as a swordsman (because of the supposed black blade) and hence weaker than Mihawk or are they stupid enough to call a "black blade" wielder not a swordsman?

Law
I remember some arguments for him not being a swordsman, even though he carries a cursed blade, told Tashigi about swordsmanship etc. But now his novel is coming out and the story is about his journey of finding his cursed blade.

The funniest thing is that these disqualifiers bring King as a supporting argument when in the manga King himself says that he loves a good duel and his VC states his hobby (IIRC) being collecting swords.

Deny it as much as you want, try to ignore reality, the truth is your favs are swordsmen and are automatically weaker than Mihawk and Zoro (eventually, Law for sure is weaker even now).

@Fleet Leader Fenaker @nik87 @mly90 @CbShadow @HA001 @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @grey matter etc.
One giant wall of cope that does little to move-aside the insurmountable boulder Zoro forever placed on his fans in this one, little panel


Somehow, King's toothed sword and punches aren't "traditional techniques" that fall under swordsmanship, thus disqualifying him...

...but Fuji's meteors and Law's room attacks are?

:KizOut:
 
#15
WSSM is about sword skill

As Brannew said, Mihawk has greater sword skill than Shanks. Mihawk was never said to be stronger than Shanks.

If he was, then why didn’t the WG give Mihawk or Buggy higher bounties than Shanks?

Sword skill, as explained by Koshiro, is the ability to cut what one desires and protect what one desires.

Shanks, Law, and Fujitora are all swordsmen. But they have significant other abilities that go beyond the realm of swordsmanship. This is why Shanks and Fujitora aren’t rivals of Mihawk and Law isn’t Zoro’s rival.
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You would think that Mihawk would be eager to defeat a yonko with a higher bounty than him, but he isn’t

Same with Law and Zoro. If Law was actually Zoro’s rival, you’d think Zoro would challenge him. But he doesn’t.
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It’s because using DF powers or CoC energy beams isn’t swordsmanship, even if those guys are swordsmen.

In terms of raw swordsmanship, Zoro is already better than Law. Hence Zoro can scar Kaido but Law can’t. Scarring Kaido requires sword skill.

However Law can break BM’s bones and ultimately defeat her 2v1. Something Zoro didn’t do. But damaging BM via DF shockwaves isn’t sword skill.
 
#17
lol

on topic
if zoro wouldn't have existed then this debate would never matter

this is shanks :

the strongest swordsman is compared to him

this is law :

teaching tashigi what it means to be a swordsman

fujitora :

everything abt him screams the blind swordsman troupe
lol
lmao even

now now dont bring me this pathetic crap of debating between whether someone is a swordsman or not
even tho fuji resembles the trope of blind swordsman in ani/ manga i truly dont give a fuck about a devil fruit merchant
all i know is that mihawk's sword style is top 1
black blade sword style > gravity sword style
fuji is possibly the weakest toptier right now along with greenbul too



quite the opposite bud , fuji has not been seen after that harassment he got on mariejois
man's last appearance was 100 chapters ago in the timeline
u better hope his blind ass isnt a hypetool for cross guild .
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/search/7286064/?page=9&q=devil+fruit+merchant&o=date

Maybe lolofans have a df too, a reality bending one to cope to eternity :shocked:


at this point swordsuckers debating at themself at this point trying to gaslight to existence a point of narrative that doesn't even exist
 
#19
Cope and it's saying people who thinks law and Fujitora aren't swordsman are zoro fans, you re reaching some new height man:risicheck:
I know you booty blasted about the last time but you need to learn to read finally
I said the people that term DF merchant about people like law and issho to discredit them are swordsexuals to begin with
Which is demonstratively correct. We had even multiple essays that no "df merchant" can be the WSS because they cant be the ultimate hakiman or some stupid stuff that

Before Fujiotra was revealed to have a supreme grade blade the same people that are hyping him up were dunking on him @Kurozumi Wiwi @ZenZu and other admirals fan remember it probally.


Only 1 fandom here can whine about themself in a forum where there are like 70% the majority, reaching noodle level of professional victim heights and now coping again after confronting with their own posting.

I will now leave you to spam more cope and emojis
 
#20
I know you booty blasted about the last time but you need to learn to read finally
I said the people that term DF merchant about people like law and issho to discredit them are swordsexuals to begin with
Which is demonstratively correct. We had even multiple essays that no "df merchant" can be the WSS because they cant be the ultimate hakiman or some stupid stuff that

Before Fujiotra was revealed to have a supreme grade blade the same people that are hyping him up were dunking on him @Kurozumi Wiwi @ZenZu and other admirals fan remember it probally.


Only 1 fandom here can whine about themself in a forum where there are like 70% the majority, reaching noodle level of professional victim heights and now coping again after confronting with their own posting.

I will now leave you to spam more cope and emojis
Do I have to actually remember you that you genuinely can't read like at all, and there is factual evidence of that? The only reality bender here is your mom the way she somehow pushed you out despite your enormous ego man
 
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