Controversial Is dating really as hard as some people say it is?

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That's wonderful news my dude. You met up in person yet?

Things are going perfect. We tried for kids last month but it didn't work out - there was a moment where we thought we got lucky. We're just going to keep trying until we succeed. Hopefully god will bless our family. :)

No not yet sadly, but I'm fine with that honestly, I know we will eventually.
Also, do you think you and your wife would be open to adopting, should you not be able to have kids naturally?

 

[Okamakama]

No not yet sadly, but I'm fine with that honestly, I know we will eventually.
Also, do you think you and your wife would be open to adopting, should you not be able to have kids naturally?

We would be open for adoption - but it was only our first attempt. We saved our first attempt for October 2024. So we'll keep trying. It can take months even for the healthiest of couples. :)

I wish you all the happiness in your relationship and pray it works out for you.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

We would be open for adoption - but it was only our first attempt. We saved our first attempt for October 2024. So we'll keep trying. It can take months even for the healthiest of couples. :)

I wish you all the happiness in your relationship and pray it works out for you.

Hopefully you and your wife succeed and manage to have beautiful healthy children eventually. I think you two deserve that much.
And thank you for the well wishes

 

[Okamakama]

Hopefully you and your wife succeed and manage to have beautiful healthy children eventually. I think you two deserve that much.
And thank you for the well wishes

I believe we will. :)
I look forward to being a father.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I'm relationship experts.

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[NAMELESS]

I believe we will. :)
I look forward to being a father.

Good luck, mate.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

don't act like an idiot

Hard ask

 

[Logiko]

Your objection comes from a heavy-handed response to the word "slave". To serve one another like a slave would be to do anything, regardless if it's what you want, to ensure your partner is happy. Do you think I enjoy having to constantly carry everything? Go on long walks after a hard day at work when I just want to sleep, all because she wants to feel safe outside at night? Sometimes it can be nice; but it can also be burdensome. I willingly do it for her as her needs are more important than my own to me. Some would call that serving as if a slave; but it's different, as it's a mutual dedication to each other's needs/desires.

The problem with that is that it's the same as sayin "no matter what happens, always think about your partner's happyness". Which, in the case of a toxic relationship with a narcissist or a beater, is the same as saying that the person must not think about themselve and not escape the relationship. Which is just dangerous to say.

It's also the vision that you must forget yourself in a relationship which is problematic in itself (and I did exactly that so I know how destructive it can be)

No. Love is not about making yourself a slave for the happyness of someone else, it's about an equal exchange of attention and care.

We are partners in a relationships, not the slaves of one another.

 

[AL sama]

I heard the successful marriages are the ones where both the man and women willingly serve each other like slaves.

if you wanna create drama go to twitter

 

[Juanpiz]

if you wanna create drama go to twitter

30+ sites
Too late

 

[Okamakama]

The problem with that is that it's the same as sayin "no matter what happens, always think about your partner's happyness". Which, in the case of a toxic relationship with a narcissist or a beater, is the same as saying that the person must not think about themselve and not escape the relationship. Which is just dangerous to say.

It's also the vision that you must forget yourself in a relationship which is problematic in itself (and I did exactly that so I know how destructive it can be)

No. Love is not about making yourself a slave for the happyness of someone else, it's about an equal exchange of attention and care.

We are partners in a relationships, not the slaves of one another.

Thanks relationship guru - king of long-term relationships.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Thanks relationship guru - king of long-term relationships.

You're a much bigger man than me lol, I was considering just tearing his whole argument apart

 

[NAMELESS]

if you wanna create drama go to twitter

Drama? I heard this advice from a priest, from a friend and from my dad. Okama seems to be in agreement with me. What drama?

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The problem with that is that it's the same as sayin "no matter what happens, always think about your partner's happyness". Which, in the case of a toxic relationship with a narcissist or a beater, is the same as saying that the person must not think about themselve and not escape the relationship. Which is just dangerous to say.

It's also the vision that you must forget yourself in a relationship which is problematic in itself (and I did exactly that so I know how destructive it can be)

No. Love is not about making yourself a slave for the happyness of someone else, it's about an equal exchange of attention and care.

We are partners in a relationships, not the slaves of one another.

At certain moments, both parties will need to make sacrifices to make things work out. Example: Pregnancy. Are you letting your wife clean the house or are you going to unburden her?

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The problem with that is that it's the same as sayin "no matter what happens, always think about your partner's happyness". Which, in the case of a toxic relationship with a narcissist or a beater, is the same as saying that the person must not think about themselve and not escape the relationship. Which is just dangerous to say.

It's also the vision that you must forget yourself in a relationship which is problematic in itself (and I did exactly that so I know how destructive it can be)

No. Love is not about making yourself a slave for the happyness of someone else, it's about an equal exchange of attention and care.

We are partners in a relationships, not the slaves of one another.

I agree that each person needs to have their own space respected, but there will be times one of you will need to make sacrifices and that will mean UNEQUAL EXCHANGE of attention and care. Examples: sickness, pregnancy, unemployment and so on...

 

[Logiko]

Thanks relationship guru - king of long-term relationships.

You are welcome

At certain moments, both parties will need to make sacrifices to make things work out.

Yes. But this does not imply to forget yourself or stay in a toxic relationship. It's imply that you must make some effort in a relationship just like I told those guyz a few pages ago.

As I said, it's an exchange. But, it must not come against your happyness or your health.

Example: Pregnancy. Are you letting your wife clean the house or are you going to unburden her?

This is part of the "partner" part. In a relationship, patner have the back of one another.

Also, when your wife is not pregnant, it's not her job to clean the house. It's BOTH your job.

 

[NAMELESS]

You are welcome




Yes. But this does not imply to forget yourself or stay in a toxic relationship. It's imply that you must make some effort in a relationship just like I told those guyz a few pages ago.

As I said, it's an exchange. But, it must not come against your happyness or your health.


This is part of the "partner" part. In a relationship, patner have the back of one another.

Also, when your wife is not pregnant, it's not her job to clean the house. It's BOTH your job.

I may have worded my first comment poorly, but there will be times you will need to forget about yourself for the sake of your partner. That does not mean you will forsaken your well being or honor. One should never consent to a request that puts the marriage in jeopardy.

 

[Okamakama]

Also, when your wife is not pregnant, it's not her job to clean the house. It's BOTH your job.

As someone with a lot of experience in this - allow me to use my lived experience, so to speak. The person responsible for whatever tasks are those who take upon that task. For example, I have a very traditional relationship. I make the money. I do all the fixing. I carry heavy objects.

My wife wanted to be the housewife (note: wanted) after years of being unable to cope in normal employment. I agreed. Now it is her job to do that, and she's happy to do so.

I think you're thrusting your views on relationships on people here. You may not realise you're doing this, so please take this as just a gentle reminder to not use your opinion as fact. (:

Yes. But this does not imply to forget yourself or stay in a toxic relationship. It's imply that you must make some effort in a relationship just like I told those guyz a few pages ago.

As I said, it's an exchange. But, it must not come against your happyness or your health.

Nobody is saying to forget yourself. It's the willingness to sacrifice anything - even at your own detriment - that is being discussed. I will die for my wife if I have to; because that is my duty as her man; and because I love her more than I love anything else. In your eyes, is this the epitome of toxicity?

 

[AL sama]

Drama? I heard this advice from a priest, from a friend and from my dad. Okama seems to be in agreement with me. What drama?

pretend all you want it doesn't matter

also I could say a lot of things but don't feel like offending a religion

 

[NAMELESS]

It's the willingness to sacrifice anything - even at your own detriment - that is being discussed

As long as you are not putting your well being, honor or marriage in jeopardy. I would never consent to taking my wife to a swing house if she ever asked it.

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pretend all you want it doesn't matter

also I could say a lot of things but don't feel like offending a religion

Listen, i just worded that comment poorly. Logiko and I are somewhat in agreement with each other. There is no drama here. Nobody is fighting. Why are you so angry all of a sudden?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

As long as you are not putting your well being, honor or marriage in jeopardy. I would never consent to taking my wife to a swing house if she ever asked it.

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Listen, i just worded that comment poorly. Logiko and I are somewhat in agreement with each other. There is no drama here. Nobody is fighting. Why are you so angry all of a sudden?

Eh tbf you did word your comment about slavery weirdly

 

[Okamakama]

As long as you are not putting your well being, honor or marriage in jeopardy. I would never consent to taking my wife to a swing house if she ever asked it.

Well that would be acting like a cuck, lmao. No, I mean things that are reasonable. I would take a bullet for her, for example. If she violated the core facet that we are exclusive to each other and belong to each other, then she could fuck off -- as much as it'd hurt me. Marriage works because of the exclusivity.