ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1132: ADVENTURE IN ELBAPH

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#42
I just don't know how I should be feeling about the direction Oda is going with Elbaph.

He has been talking non-stop about everything being set up for the finale of the series and Egghead seemed to kickstart it (although we all knew it would still take longer than most fans expect), but now he completely slows down the pacing again and seemingly just starts another standard adventure arc.

This just doesn't fit the "we're in the final stage now" claims at all.

The whole pacing of the grand scheme seems off tbh.

It's like you're entering the final lap of a long race, then start your epic sprint to the finish line (Egghead) only to just say "nah" after twenty yards and instead decide to jog to your coach for a quick chat (Elbaph).
The overall tone does feel a bit strange to me at the moment as well. Not too many chapters ago we got Vegapunk's speech about essentially the end of the world, we got that double spread showing all the key players, talking about how we are now in this big race to the One Piece - and now we're back to happy-go-lucky adventure. Were we supposed to take Vegapunk's words serious? It's hard to do that when the Straw Hats have forgotten about it all and are just casually having fun.

And then we're introduced to Loki, and we get this bit of dialogue that says that if he's released, it would mean the end of the world also. So there's two ends of the world now? Okay, so that's up first I guess.

There are enough positive things to be said about the chapter (mostly the art), but yeah the pacing feels counter to what Oda was attempting to establish at the end of Egghead.
 
#44
Oh, I know about his estimations being laughable, sure. I've been very vocal about it on this forum, too.

However, there is no denying that Egghead really was planned and written as start of the final saga.

Knowing this, the current (massive) slowing of the pacing just makes little sense, no matter how long we estimate the finale to go on.
Oda will take his time on the finale. No way he is rushing a 20 years+++ series.
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You think he learned that from Roger or on Elbaf?
The voice of all things is something exclusive to Roger, Luffy and Momo so far. I doubt Gaban has that. Anyway, Luffy still needs to master his awakening and hone his haki.
 
#45
Oda will take his time on the finale. No way he is rushing a 20 years+++ series.
Nobody said he will rush the finale, that's not the discussion here.

Read my former posts and the post from @Wano Never Happened :
I wouldn't even have a problem with Elbaph being this long.

However, it should have a tight pacing and tie into the finale throughout.

What does Oda do?

He just spent 7 chapters - almost three months in real time - on some random lego sideplot that was executed very poorly on top of it (countless drawing and consistency errors) and his standard "crew divides and explores" yada-yada.
The overall tone does feel a bit strange to me at the moment as well. Not too many chapters ago we got Vegapunk's speech about essentially the end of the world, we got that double spread showing all the key players, talking about how we are now in this big race to the One Piece - and now we're back to happy-go-lucky adventure. Were we supposed to take Vegapunk's words serious? It's hard to do that when the Straw Hats have forgotten about it all and are just casually having fun.

And then we're introduced to Loki, and we get this bit of dialogue that says that if he's released, it would mean the end of the world also. So there's two ends of the world now? Okay, so that's up first I guess.

There are enough positive things to be said about the chapter (mostly the art), but yeah the pacing feels counter to what Oda was attempting to establish at the end of Egghead.
 
#48
You think he learned that from Roger or on Elbaf?
Most likely he saw it from Roger and learned more from Oharas research.

Crackpot theory would be the D stands for dragon and Luffy will learn it from a real dragon that Scoppers been taking care of that hatched from the egg on the oro Jackson explaining why the ship is black and Scoppers burned to fuck
 
#52
The overall tone does feel a bit strange to me at the moment as well. Not too many chapters ago we got Vegapunk's speech about essentially the end of the world, we got that double spread showing all the key players, talking about how we are now in this big race to the One Piece - and now we're back to happy-go-lucky adventure. Were we supposed to take Vegapunk's words serious? It's hard to do that when the Straw Hats have forgotten about it all and are just casually having fun.

And then we're introduced to Loki, and we get this bit of dialogue that says that if he's released, it would mean the end of the world also. So there's two ends of the world now? Okay, so that's up first I guess.

There are enough positive things to be said about the chapter (mostly the art), but yeah the pacing feels counter to what Oda was attempting to establish at the end of Egghead.
I think Loki is one those guys that thinks World=Home Nation(Elbaf).
 
#57
I just don't know how I should be feeling about the direction Oda is going with Elbaph.

He has been talking non-stop about everything being set up for the finale of the series and Egghead seemed to kickstart it (although we all knew it would still take longer than most fans expect), but now he completely slows down the pacing again and seemingly just starts another standard adventure arc.

This just doesn't fit the "we're in the final stage now" claims at all.

The whole pacing of the grand scheme seems off tbh.

It's like you're entering the final lap of a long race, then start your epic sprint to the finish line (Egghead) only to just say "nah" after twenty yards and instead decide to jog to your coach for a quick chat (Elbaph).
Well there were rumors in the japanese community about Elbaf arc being a last minute decision and Oda originally wanting to skip it even after Wano concluded. Provided this is true (which is a big if) it's highly possible Elbaf adds 3-4 extra years to the Oda's 5 year final saga ending plan.
 
#60
Most likely he saw it from Roger and learned more from Oharas research.

Crackpot theory would be the D stands for dragon and Luffy will learn it from a real dragon that Scoppers been taking care of that hatched from the egg on the oro Jackson explaining why the ship is black and Scoppers burned to fuck
Cool idea, but how do you explain the whirlpools
 
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