How strong is Morel ? Compared to Zodiac and Phantom Troupe ?
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Morel's student was compared to Kite in combat ability. Kite who has greater feats/portrayal than even the strongest troupe fighters
Morel cooked two Squadron Leaders back to back while nerfed because most of his aura was busy fighting Pitou's puppets
Pitou stated she wanted to fight Morel because he's strong
And you compare him to Sharnalk who'd legitimately stand 0 chance vs any squadron leader that isn't Meleoron and to two troupe members who probably scale below Phinks who needed his hatsu to beat a foot soldier.
Yikes.
Morel cooked two Squadron Leaders back to back while nerfed because most of his aura was busy fighting Pitou's puppets
Pitou stated she wanted to fight Morel because he's strong
And you compare him to Sharnalk who'd legitimately stand 0 chance vs any squadron leader that isn't Meleoron and to two troupe members who probably scale below Phinks who needed his hatsu to beat a foot soldier.
Yikes.
Leaching morel off knuckle huh
Morel is a support fighter as he said himself , he isn’t someone who can fight someone like nobunaga or phinx one on one
He only cooked hagya through co2 poisoning which is extremely situational
and all he did was survive cheetu’s hatsu
He didn’t “ cook “ him
Sooo ??
Rare humans are extremely new for chimera ants
Pitou only fought 1 of them prior to this , pitou’s personality makes her want to engage in battles
in a direct fight , morel will get absolutely stomped
What in the name of headcanon is this ?
What abt needing ur hatsu ?
that’s his ability , ofc he will use it
Give a good argument on how morel beats someone like phinx or uvogin in a 1 on 1 fight
Cause I am damn sure his smoke ain’t doing shit
he is a support fighter .
Morel is a support fighter as he said himself , he isn’t someone who can fight someone like nobunaga or phinx one on one
He only cooked hagya through co2 poisoning which is extremely situational
and all he did was survive cheetu’s hatsu
He didn’t “ cook “ him
Sooo ??
Rare humans are extremely new for chimera ants
Pitou only fought 1 of them prior to this , pitou’s personality makes her want to engage in battles
in a direct fight , morel will get absolutely stomped
What in the name of headcanon is this ?
What abt needing ur hatsu ?
that’s his ability , ofc he will use it
Give a good argument on how morel beats someone like phinx or uvogin in a 1 on 1 fight
Cause I am damn sure his smoke ain’t doing shit
he is a support fighter .
Knuckle is literally Morel's student and hyped up Morel's aura quantity as the best he knows of.
And Knuckle scales far above a Gon that outperformed the troupe members vs Ants foot soldiers
Situational because Morel chose the best course of option to win. That's battle IQ and ingenuity for you.
He did cook Cheetu and even made him go beg for a new ability to Pouf
Pitou said the same thing about Morel that she did about Kite.
Read the room. He's being hyped to be that kind of fighter.
Zazan almost killed Feitan when he missed his KO and got badly damaged from an attack that didn't even reach him. Had he dodged a second later he was dead.
What the fuck makes you think someone much weaker than Feitan like Sharnalk would stand a chance vs a Squadron Leader?
Gon literally cooked two nen using ants who were fighting in optimal conditions (night time) with more ease than the troupe members needed in 1v1 fights.
Enough said
See this is where you're wrong and got fooled by how overwhelming Youpi was.
We just saw a fight where Chrollo used human puppets to overwhelm Hisoka. These said puppets were not even superhuman like Morel's smoke soldiers were shown to be (able to destroy rock with punches and jump high in the air, very agile and mobile,can dodge bullets, stronger than Pitou's puppets who had guns)
Phinks and Uvogin aren't Youpi. They don't have 10 arms, they're not impossible to injure. Freaking Rabid Dog could chop away Uvo's skin.
An army of superhuman smoke soldiers won't be easy to handle for these two. They got less tools than Hisoka did vs a weaker army of puppet.
And Knuckle scales far above a Gon that outperformed the troupe members vs Ants foot soldiers
Situational because Morel chose the best course of option to win. That's battle IQ and ingenuity for you.
He did cook Cheetu and even made him go beg for a new ability to Pouf
Pitou said the same thing about Morel that she did about Kite.
Read the room. He's being hyped to be that kind of fighter.
Zazan almost killed Feitan when he missed his KO and got badly damaged from an attack that didn't even reach him. Had he dodged a second later he was dead.
What the fuck makes you think someone much weaker than Feitan like Sharnalk would stand a chance vs a Squadron Leader?
Gon literally cooked two nen using ants who were fighting in optimal conditions (night time) with more ease than the troupe members needed in 1v1 fights.
Enough said
See this is where you're wrong and got fooled by how overwhelming Youpi was.
We just saw a fight where Chrollo used human puppets to overwhelm Hisoka. These said puppets were not even superhuman like Morel's smoke soldiers were shown to be (able to destroy rock with punches and jump high in the air, very agile and mobile,can dodge bullets, stronger than Pitou's puppets who had guns)
Phinks and Uvogin aren't Youpi. They don't have 10 arms, they're not impossible to injure. Freaking Rabid Dog could chop away Uvo's skin.
An army of superhuman smoke soldiers won't be easy to handle for these two. They got less tools than Hisoka did vs a weaker army of puppet.
Morel is a support type....and his ability is less suited for combat than Knuckle. Knuckle is also only as physical strong as Kite. Nothing to do with aura or nen
Its like saying Hisoka is more physically stronger than Chrollo. Its useless info. Plus Knuckle being an Emitter....its pathetic hes as physically strong as Kite whos a Conjurer
Ikalgo also beat 2 Squadron Leaders...and hes practically fodder.
She never said he was strong ? Unless im remembering wrong.
Shalnark easily beats Melereon, Welfin, Peggy and Turtle.
Ikalgo also beat 2 Squadron Leaders...and hes practically fodder.
She never said he was strong ? Unless im remembering wrong.
Shalnark easily beats Melereon, Welfin, Peggy and Turtle.
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Being a student means nothing
U won’t hype wing’s physical abilities just cause gon is his student
Knuckles is also more suited for direct combat
aura quantity isn’t the end be all in a nen fight .
Pretty good
Now how does he perform against uvogin in a direct fight ?
Lol
Yeah morel is a strong fighter
And ?
Soo ? 😭
Fun fact : squadron leaders aren’t on the same level of strength
No , this is not “ enough said “
U dodged my point .
the ants gon fought are different and no way u got CA gon above phinx or uvogin ?
It seems to me that u got a hate boner for the troupe
No, I am just not impressed by deep purple
It’s feat is killing fodder soldiers .
This isn’t even a downplay for morel in any form , he is just not built for direct combat
He will do wonders as a support .
His battle iq is also pretty impressive but I just don’t see him doing shit against someone like uvogin.
U won’t hype wing’s physical abilities just cause gon is his student
Knuckles is also more suited for direct combat
aura quantity isn’t the end be all in a nen fight .
Pretty good
Now how does he perform against uvogin in a direct fight ?
Lol
Yeah morel is a strong fighter
And ?
Soo ? 😭
Fun fact : squadron leaders aren’t on the same level of strength
No , this is not “ enough said “
U dodged my point .
the ants gon fought are different and no way u got CA gon above phinx or uvogin ?
It seems to me that u got a hate boner for the troupe
No, I am just not impressed by deep purple
It’s feat is killing fodder soldiers .
This isn’t even a downplay for morel in any form , he is just not built for direct combat
He will do wonders as a support .
His battle iq is also pretty impressive but I just don’t see him doing shit against someone like uvogin.
Morel Hype in a nutshell.
1.) "His student is as strong as Kite"
Fact: His student (an emitter) is as physically storng as Kite (a conjurer)
Kite's true power comes from Crazy Slots. Not his physical strength.
2.) "He beat 2 Squadron Leaders"
Fact: He situationally beat 2 Squadron Leaders, same thing a fodder ant like Ikalgo was able to situationally do
3.) "His aura quantity is the best Knuckle has ever seen"
Fact: Has Knuckle ever met the Spiders, Zoldycks, Zodiacs ? Cause those groups are the only groups that matter in HxH. Heck hes clearly not seen Netero (or Beyond's) if hes saying statements like that.
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Morel is garbo and at best at Bono/Shalnark lvl. Hes literally only seen as a Great Nen user whereas the Spiders (those we know of) are seen as Geniuses. Nobunaga, Phinks, Feitan, Uvo, Matchi, Franklin, Hisoka, Illumi, Chrollo all beat the bricks outta him.
1.) "His student is as strong as Kite"
Fact: His student (an emitter) is as physically storng as Kite (a conjurer)
Kite's true power comes from Crazy Slots. Not his physical strength.
2.) "He beat 2 Squadron Leaders"
Fact: He situationally beat 2 Squadron Leaders, same thing a fodder ant like Ikalgo was able to situationally do
3.) "His aura quantity is the best Knuckle has ever seen"
Fact: Has Knuckle ever met the Spiders, Zoldycks, Zodiacs ? Cause those groups are the only groups that matter in HxH. Heck hes clearly not seen Netero (or Beyond's) if hes saying statements like that.
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Morel is garbo and at best at Bono/Shalnark lvl. Hes literally only seen as a Great Nen user whereas the Spiders (those we know of) are seen as Geniuses. Nobunaga, Phinks, Feitan, Uvo, Matchi, Franklin, Hisoka, Illumi, Chrollo all beat the bricks outta him.
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Morel Hype in a nutshell.
1.) "His student is as strong as Kite"
Fact: His student (an emitter) is as physically storng as Kite (a conjurer)
Kite's true power comes from Crazy Slots. Not his physical strength.
2.) "He beat 2 Squadron Leaders"
Fact: He situationally beat 2 Squadron Leaders, same thing a fodder ant like Ikalgo was able to situationally do
3.) "His aura quantity is the best Knuckle has ever seen"
Fact: Has Knuckle ever met the Spiders, Zoldycks, Zodiacs ? Cause those groups are the only groups that matter in HxH. Heck hes clearly not seen Netero (or Beyond's) if hes saying statements like that.
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Morel is garbo and at best at Bono/Shalnark lvl. Hes literally only seen as a Great Nen user whereas the Spiders (those we know of) are seen as Geniuses. Nobunaga, Phinks, Feitan, Uvo, Matchi, Franklin, Hisoka, Illumi, Chrollo all beat the bricks outta him.
1.) "His student is as strong as Kite"
Fact: His student (an emitter) is as physically storng as Kite (a conjurer)
Kite's true power comes from Crazy Slots. Not his physical strength.
2.) "He beat 2 Squadron Leaders"
Fact: He situationally beat 2 Squadron Leaders, same thing a fodder ant like Ikalgo was able to situationally do
3.) "His aura quantity is the best Knuckle has ever seen"
Fact: Has Knuckle ever met the Spiders, Zoldycks, Zodiacs ? Cause those groups are the only groups that matter in HxH. Heck hes clearly not seen Netero (or Beyond's) if hes saying statements like that.
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Morel is garbo and at best at Bono/Shalnark lvl. Hes literally only seen as a Great Nen user whereas the Spiders (those we know of) are seen as Geniuses. Nobunaga, Phinks, Feitan, Uvo, Matchi, Franklin, Hisoka, Illumi, Chrollo all beat the bricks outta him.
Wrong. He does not mention physical strength whatsoever in Japanese. He says taijutsu which mean if they were to brawl it'd end in a tie. This includes skill,nen and strength.
Gon has also literally never seen Knuckle or Kaito fight without using nen so idk what you're smoking with the nenless argument
It's not about physical strength as explained above.
Also you must have been living under a rock. What's this 2018 argument ? Knuckle is a conjurer not an emitter. We've known that since Togashi's exhibition with the nen charts and all that. They're both conjurers nobody has an edge in enhancement affinity
If both were to fight without using their hatsus it'd end in
She wanted to leave her spot just to fight him. Pouf said he had the ideal mind of a warrior. Youpi callled him amazing. He was acknowledged
by all 3 rgs
Sharnalk gets absolutely manhandled by Welfin. The other 3 are not Squadron Leader level in battle ability.
Gon has also literally never seen Knuckle or Kaito fight without using nen so idk what you're smoking with the nenless argument
It's not about physical strength as explained above.
Also you must have been living under a rock. What's this 2018 argument ? Knuckle is a conjurer not an emitter. We've known that since Togashi's exhibition with the nen charts and all that. They're both conjurers nobody has an edge in enhancement affinity
If both were to fight without using their hatsus it'd end in
She wanted to leave her spot just to fight him. Pouf said he had the ideal mind of a warrior. Youpi callled him amazing. He was acknowledged
by all 3 rgs
Sharnalk gets absolutely manhandled by Welfin. The other 3 are not Squadron Leader level in battle ability.
Why would it include nen and hatsu tho ? When Gon stated that statement hes never seen Knuckle's ability or ren or anything. Taijustsu means any unarmed fighting. So yes a brawl without Crazy Slots, or Nen.
Fair.
Non of them callled him strong...I rest my case. Ging glazed Leorio to high heaven....no one here says Leorio can beat Shizuku in a fight.
Shalnark is literally his worst matchup. Once Shalnark easily puts the antennae in him he deactivates his ability and kills him.
Welfin is featless and was getting penetrated by Ikalgo's bullets and couldnt dodge them. Hes literal fodder for every PT. Shizuku puts holes in him and sucks up his blood. Matchi beheads him. Franklin puts more holes in him then Ikalgo.
Fair.
Non of them callled him strong...I rest my case. Ging glazed Leorio to high heaven....no one here says Leorio can beat Shizuku in a fight.
Shalnark is literally his worst matchup. Once Shalnark easily puts the antennae in him he deactivates his ability and kills him.
Welfin is featless and was getting penetrated by Ikalgo's bullets and couldnt dodge them. Hes literal fodder for every PT. Shizuku puts holes in him and sucks up his blood. Matchi beheads him. Franklin puts more holes in him then Ikalgo.