Mr. Reloaded

Professional Backstabber
why did u start the game with saying alexis is one of your top trs only to say they're unreadable and should be sent to the triwizard tourney cuz maybe they'll be killed? Why did u say you would dunk on LHF as scum and then proceed to dunk on Alexis and say "all they do is say chills every game"?
I never had Alexis as a top read, I had him a initial vibe read, based off nothing.
why did u vote for polar unprompted and with 0 reasoning? u even said u had no read on him so why vote him?
For the sake of hammering if people wanted it early.
Why did u vote for Luka EOD1 while also saying we should be voting inactive people? Luka isn't inactive.
Counter wagon.
Why did u vote Ultra to go to the triwizard tournament when u thought ppl could die during it?
Because I wanted someone I actually town read to possibly get a reward.
Why didn't u go to the room you said you'd go to last night?
Someone else claimed it lol
Why are u telling ppl to vote for UwU but voting red night? Why are u voting for red night at all?
I didn't really do that? Yeah I did bring up UwU cause Yoho asked for non town reads outside RN, but my vote on Red Night should tell you where my priorities are rn.
 
𝑆𝑜, 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑:

𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑈𝑙𝑡𝑟𝑎.
𝐿𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡'𝑠 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑖𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ.


𝐾𝑊𝐸𝐻 𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑈𝑙𝑡𝑟𝑎.

𝐼𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑜 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝐾𝑊𝐸𝐻.

𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑎𝑤 𝐼𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑜 𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑈𝑙𝑡𝑟𝑎.

𝐼𝑚𝑜 𝑒𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝐿𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑜𝑟 𝐼𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑜 𝑚𝑢𝑠𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑙𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒. 𝐾𝑊𝐸𝐻 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑠𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑡 𝑈𝑙𝑡𝑟𝑎 𝑖𝑓 ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝐼𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑜 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑏𝑦 𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑈𝑙𝑡𝑟𝑎 𝑡𝑜𝑜, 𝑠𝑜 ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑢𝑛𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑚𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑝𝑒𝑟ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑠? 𝐻𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟, 𝐼 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐿𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑖𝑠 𝑙𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡'𝑠 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔. 𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝐼 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡'𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑓 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒'𝑠 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑖𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑛𝑜𝑡. 𝐿𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑢𝑝 𝑡𝑜 𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡'𝑠 𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑛𝑜 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑢𝑡 ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑅𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒? 𝑊ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑠𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑜 𝑠𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑦𝑜𝑢?
While I can't exactly check their ISOs, since they're long and Worstgen is struggling ATM, I think the scenario where Indigo lies seems more plausible.

If Indigo is telling the truth, that means that KWEH was roleblocked, and therefore could not appear... but since Indigo would have no way to visit Ultra, that would mean that either Luka is lying (and scum has an ability that can make trackers see things), Ratchet was lying (plausible, but a very risky move given any later contradictions in tracking results would be suspicious), or Indigo was redirected onto Ultra (possible, but again a risky move since Indigo's role was unknown N1).

However, if Indigo is lying and visited Ratchet instead of KWEH, then, assuming scum!Indigo, another scum could have roleblocked KWEH while he visited Ultra, allowing Indigo to visit Ultra exactly as planned. In this scenario, everyone else is telling the truth - Luka did make Ratchet's role immune, Ratchet saw Indigo visit Ultra, and KWEH was roleblocked - no unnecessary risks are taken by Indigo, since a redirect can be argued, and given Nagini had no roleblock ability, I think its a safe assumption that a scum with RB could be present.
 
I never had Alexis as a top read, I had him a initial vibe read, based off nothing.

For the sake of hammering if people wanted it early.

Counter wagon.

Because I wanted someone I actually town read to possibly get a reward.

Someone else claimed it lol

I didn't really do that? Yeah I did bring up UwU cause Yoho asked for non town reads outside RN, but my vote on Red Night should tell you where my priorities are rn.
so why did u vote Luka? Did u have a case on them? And why is Red Night the worst of the inactives to u?
 

Pot Goblin

Conejo Blanco
@Alexis2282AE @Pot Goblin @Crowned Witch

You have been nominated as champions for the Triwizard Tournament

Your first trial is to guess where I am in these following locations

- Grove
-Hogsmeade
- Hogwarts Dinner Hall
-Headmaster's Office
-Gardens
-Olivanders
-Ministers Office
-Weasley Home

You may only choose one location. Please PM me your answer.​
Let's get it
It's time for Champion Goblin
:finally:
 
As indie, reasons to hide stuff, Jag had.
wouldnt that be unfriendly at a minimum?
While I can't exactly check their ISOs, since they're long and Worstgen is struggling ATM, I think the scenario where Indigo lies seems more plausible.

If Indigo is telling the truth, that means that KWEH was roleblocked, and therefore could not appear... but since Indigo would have no way to visit Ultra, that would mean that either Luka is lying (and scum has an ability that can make trackers see things), Ratchet was lying (plausible, but a very risky move given any later contradictions in tracking results would be suspicious), or Indigo was redirected onto Ultra (possible, but again a risky move since Indigo's role was unknown N1).

However, if Indigo is lying and visited Ratchet instead of KWEH, then, assuming scum!Indigo, another scum could have roleblocked KWEH while he visited Ultra, allowing Indigo to visit Ultra exactly as planned. In this scenario, everyone else is telling the truth - Luka did make Ratchet's role immune, Ratchet saw Indigo visit Ultra, and KWEH was roleblocked - no unnecessary risks are taken by Indigo, since a redirect can be argued, and given Nagini had no roleblock ability, I think its a safe assumption that a scum with RB could be present.
This feels way different than scum Stargate
 

Mr. Reloaded

Professional Backstabber
so why did u vote Luka? Did u have a case on them?
No case. In the event of manipulation I wanted a counter wagon and was fine with Luka who claimed Indie, better that than town.
And why is Red Night the worst of the inactives to u?
so why did u vote Luka? Did u have a case on them?
No case. In the event of manipulation I wanted a counter wagon and was fine with Luka who claimed Indie, better that than town.
Back to Nibels. Look at this shit lmao.

Can we get a claim from him at least?
^^
 
Okay well I watched Ultra last night and received results saying that you targeted him. Yours was the only name. So there are a few possibilities here:

1 - You're lying about targeting Kweh.
2 - Ultra was Busdriven with Kweh.
2a. You are the busdriver, and busdrive Kweh and Ultra.
2b. The busdriver has a Ninja passive, and thus only you showed up.

Problem with 2b is I think that's pretty overpowered. Busdrivers can't easily be caught, so giving them immunity to the main thing that can catch them out would be somewhat counterintuitive. If you haven't fully claimed, that's what your next post needs to be.
give me a sec, getting a drink and reading this shit
 
No case. In the event of manipulation I wanted a counter wagon and was fine with Luka who claimed Indie, better that than town.


No case. In the event of manipulation I wanted a counter wagon and was fine with Luka who claimed Indie, better that than town.

^^
No case. In the event of manipulation I wanted a counter wagon and was fine with Luka who claimed Indie, better that than town.


also Luka claimed Malfoy not indie i think.

and uh

u don't have a case on red night you're just fishing for a claim?
 
wouldnt that be unfriendly at a minimum?
how it works i understand:

- try to eat one of 3 lowest posters each cycle Aragog has to
- in some cases all of 3 posters town will be
- therefore drawback that is

ask for example to eat one of seraph & xlaw we can

people we ask jag to eat anyway, PoE are

thoughts
 
Okay well I watched Ultra last night and received results saying that you targeted him. Yours was the only name. So there are a few possibilities here:

1 - You're lying about targeting Kweh.
2 - Ultra was Busdriven with Kweh.
2a. You are the busdriver, and busdrive Kweh and Ultra.
2b. The busdriver has a Ninja passive, and thus only you showed up.

Problem with 2b is I think that's pretty overpowered. Busdrivers can't easily be caught, so giving them immunity to the main thing that can catch them out would be somewhat counterintuitive. If you haven't fully claimed, that's what your next post needs to be.
there is another possibility

you got redirected to KWEH
 
If I'm getting this right,

Ratchet watched over Ultra and got the result that Indigo visited him.

Indigo claiming he visited Kweh with the role block.

Kweh claims he visited Ultra.

But shouldn't Ultra have more visitors than just Indigo, so many town read him and he lead the lynch on Polar?
Also, as per Luka claim Ratchet shouldn't be tempered with, so only Ultra could've been tempered.

If we assume Ultra n Kweh got bus driven. Then Ratchet should've ended on Kweh, and if Indigo intended on visiting Kweh, he'd have ended on Ultra. Still doesn't explain how he could've ended up in Ratchet watch .
Clearly both of them have to target the same person for Ratchet to get this result even if bus driven.
But if Indigo targeted Ultra to role block him, then as scum, would know about the Bus drive and would have targeted Kweh to end up on Ultra. Easy to say Bus drive doesn't explain it.

If Indigo actually is lying about visiting kweh n targeted Ultra, then I'd have expected him to say some half truth when Ratchet hinted he used some kind of action on him. Still, if he decided to swing with a lie, doesn't explain why only Indigo would visit Ultra last night. When Ultra is widely town read & led Polar lynch and should've been protected/healed plus Kweh tried visiting him.

Or
Ratchet actually got redirected to Kweh, and that's how he got Indigo as the visitor who actually visited Kweh only. while Kweh went to Ultra and didn't end up in Ratchet watch.
For this to happen either Luka has to be lying about making Ratchet temper immune, or the failing PR must have redirected Ratchet somehow. That's all i could think of.
 
So for Polar, I wasn't keen on entertaining the slot farther than surface level because there was barely anything to work off of (as had been noted by various players.)

There was no real detailed thought process behind the vote.
In hindsight, however-
I felt it'd have a higher statistical likelihood of delivering necessary results to mull over in the later phases because he's

drum roll!

A polarizing slot.

A flip from Polar in general tells you alot as demonstrated from the bussing speculation - you can gauge whether bussing went on and what would be beneficial for his mates after the flip, etc. It also demonstrates which players to trust in leading which in turn assists in developing a town core or developing stronger reads (or solidifying them). These are all positives and necessities for further analysis.

(Alternatively, had he flipped town, it'd be the opposite scenario and show which players not to trust. It would not have been ideal if he did but there is always, always going to be some form of information to gleam from with him if this makes sense.)
 
how it works i understand:

- try to eat one of 3 lowest posters each cycle Aragog has to
- in some cases all of 3 posters town will be
- therefore drawback that is

ask for example to eat one of seraph & xlaw we can

people we ask jag to eat anyway, PoE are

thoughts
i would like totes enjoy if Jag put his big spider mouth on Seraph's scummy dirty body

Xlaw at least i could somewhat explain why he voted Polar
 
If I'm getting this right,

Ratchet watched over Ultra and got the result that Indigo visited him.

Indigo claiming he visited Kweh with the role block.

Kweh claims he visited Ultra.

But shouldn't Ultra have more visitors than just Indigo, so many town read him and he lead the lynch on Polar?
Also, as per Luka claim Ratchet shouldn't be tempered with, so only Ultra could've been tempered.

If we assume Ultra n Kweh got bus driven. Then Ratchet should've ended on Kweh, and if Indigo intended on visiting Kweh, he'd have ended on Ultra. Still doesn't explain how he could've ended up in Ratchet watch .
Clearly both of them have to target the same person for Ratchet to get this result even if bus driven.
But if Indigo targeted Ultra to role block him, then as scum, would know about the Bus drive and would have targeted Kweh to end up on Ultra. Easy to say Bus drive doesn't explain it.

If Indigo actually is lying about visiting kweh n targeted Ultra, then I'd have expected him to say some half truth when Ratchet hinted he used some kind of action on him. Still, if he decided to swing with a lie, doesn't explain why only Indigo would visit Ultra last night. When Ultra is widely town read & led Polar lynch and should've been protected/healed plus Kweh tried visiting him.

Or
Ratchet actually got redirected to Kweh, and that's how he got Indigo as the visitor who actually visited Kweh only. while Kweh went to Ultra and didn't end up in Ratchet watch.
For this to happen either Luka has to be lying about making Ratchet temper immune, or the failing PR must have redirected Ratchet somehow. That's all i could think of.
Hi Yo

I skimmed your earlier post and this one, I'm comfortable reading you as town with this

Half truth is an excellent point that we should heavily consider
 
So for Polar, I wasn't keen on entertaining the slot farther than surface level because there was barely anything to work off of (as had been noted by various players.)

There was no real detailed thought process behind the vote.
In hindsight, however-
I felt it'd have a higher statistical likelihood of delivering necessary results to mull over in the later phases because he's

drum roll!

A polarizing slot.

A flip from Polar in general tells you alot as demonstrated from the bussing speculation - you can gauge whether bussing went on and what would be beneficial for his mates after the flip, etc. It also demonstrates which players to trust in leading which in turn assists in developing a town core or developing stronger reads (or solidifying them). These are all positives and necessities for further analysis.

(Alternatively, had he flipped town, it'd be the opposite scenario and show which players not to trust. It would not have been ideal if he did but there is always, always going to be some form of information to gleam from with him if this makes sense.)
but how did u know this? i thought u were working while most of this went down
 
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