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You choose in Italy, my point is worldwide. You start to derive from the subject first by showing how you distrust scientist, don't blame me.
Again. The subject is the distrust of science, and scientist saved the day with COVID, not politicians, not Trump, not Medias, SCIENTISTS.
Race to the vaccine after undermining time and time the battle against Covid.
1. It's not "science" it's the opinion of one scientist.
2. He was right to say that at the time and he was right to be cautious later. Why ? Because he got new informations in between concerning the cases of Thrombosis. (which again, are rare, just like he explained in the first statement).
Again. You do not take into account the scientific and social context and so you fall into a fear mongering and anti-scientific spiral.
Yes it's technically a lie, but that's due to bad communication and therefore bad politics and not bad science. Which - again - is our subject at the moment.
Now, this doesn't negate the fact that the green pass or any other pass in this context was STILL necessary.
Blame the communication and politics who are bad at their jobs, not scientist who try to save other people.
Well, it's you who equate a progressive discourse with a destructive one, not me...
Your immune system. Vaccines have a very small factors of risk. But it was either that or have fun risking to live all your life in a bed without being able to stand or breath correctly
Which is why we need more scientist and not more people lashing out on scientists.
Science is the best method to understand the world, period. If you have something better, go ahead.
You are the one denying facts mate.
In your glory, you confuse politics with scientific practice and communications with consensus.
Don't blame me for your poor judgment...
I see.
This statement is saying a lot.
A W for people who were under oppression and are now celebrating ? Nah... it has to be a campist things with you. Negating the agentivity of millions of middle-eastern people.
There is a difference between doubting (which I did at the time) and denying the only solution to stop a global pandemic thus risking and endangering the lives of millions of people.
And I criticize the F I want to. Ok ?
We are talking here about a genocide in plain sight, 40000 people dead with war crimes and crimes against humanity and your are choosing to make the worse comparison ever to justify a Mc Donald commercial.
I've been patient with you and your chaos baiting, but don't push the button.
I think you don't understand that it is not as easy to boycott the brand supporting Israel right now and Chine. So stop the fallacious comparisons please.
Here
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/brazil-amazon-boycott/index.html
You mean, like the boycott of Bollore products and brand ?
Yeah, we are already doing that kind of stuff.
You are not talking about the left here, you are talking about liberals.
You are german, where you live .. THERE IS NO LEFT.
There are at best some social democrats who are a bit progressist. Your country just refuse to apply international laws for Goda's sake.
So don't come and running to criticize the left because I'm starting to believe that you actually don't understand what the left is. This is not the first time that I see you say some pretty stange skit. I've gave a pass in front of your Anti-vax and anti-scientific tendancies, but here you are crossing a line by trying to compare F GENOCIDE to a deforestation.
Not only that but you are using a pure fallacious rethoric here:
It's not up to you to tell people what they should not boycott. Same thing it's not up to you to criticize and call hypocrite a group who wants to boycott a brand because of a F GENOCIDE just because you can't stand to see them criticize your fav actor.
Again. I love Inaki and I will still love him after that, but he screwed up big time and need to understand why. Especially in this context we NEED to boycott MacDonalds. At least until they really start to make a change.
There is no such things. Careful because what i'm seeing here is exactly what I did a few years ago, and this is a slippy path. Don't turn into that kind of people.
Asking for Islamophobia to stop is not depicting the Quran as a beacon of human's right, it simply stepping up to defend an oppress minority in Europe.
Do not forget that what Muslims are living at the moment is the same things Jew lived between 1900 and 1940.
We ALL KNOW where it lead.
Which is exactly what we are trying to do by destroying the finances of Israel at the moment.
See @Bisoromi Bear when Nameless starts to agrees with you right now, it's the sign that you are not really saying the most pertinent things
Again. The subject is the distrust of science, and scientist saved the day with COVID, not politicians, not Trump, not Medias, SCIENTISTS.
Race to the vaccine after undermining time and time the battle against Covid.
1. It's not "science" it's the opinion of one scientist.
2. He was right to say that at the time and he was right to be cautious later. Why ? Because he got new informations in between concerning the cases of Thrombosis. (which again, are rare, just like he explained in the first statement).
Again. You do not take into account the scientific and social context and so you fall into a fear mongering and anti-scientific spiral.
Yes it's technically a lie, but that's due to bad communication and therefore bad politics and not bad science. Which - again - is our subject at the moment.
Now, this doesn't negate the fact that the green pass or any other pass in this context was STILL necessary.
Blame the communication and politics who are bad at their jobs, not scientist who try to save other people.
Top one woke culture warrior calling ME a culture warrior 
Your immune system. Vaccines have a very small factors of risk. But it was either that or have fun risking to live all your life in a bed without being able to stand or breath correctly
Which is why we need more scientist and not more people lashing out on scientists.
Science is the best method to understand the world, period. If you have something better, go ahead.
You are the one denying facts mate.
In your glory, you confuse politics with scientific practice and communications with consensus.
Don't blame me for your poor judgment...
I see.
This statement is saying a lot.
A W for people who were under oppression and are now celebrating ? Nah... it has to be a campist things with you. Negating the agentivity of millions of middle-eastern people.
There is a difference between doubting (which I did at the time) and denying the only solution to stop a global pandemic thus risking and endangering the lives of millions of people.
And I criticize the F I want to. Ok ?
We are talking here about a genocide in plain sight, 40000 people dead with war crimes and crimes against humanity and your are choosing to make the worse comparison ever to justify a Mc Donald commercial.
I've been patient with you and your chaos baiting, but don't push the button.
I think you don't understand that it is not as easy to boycott the brand supporting Israel right now and Chine. So stop the fallacious comparisons please.
Here
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/brazil-amazon-boycott/index.html
You mean, like the boycott of Bollore products and brand ?
Yeah, we are already doing that kind of stuff.
You are not talking about the left here, you are talking about liberals.
You are german, where you live .. THERE IS NO LEFT.
There are at best some social democrats who are a bit progressist. Your country just refuse to apply international laws for Goda's sake.
So don't come and running to criticize the left because I'm starting to believe that you actually don't understand what the left is. This is not the first time that I see you say some pretty stange skit. I've gave a pass in front of your Anti-vax and anti-scientific tendancies, but here you are crossing a line by trying to compare F GENOCIDE to a deforestation.
Not only that but you are using a pure fallacious rethoric here:
It's not up to you to tell people what they should not boycott. Same thing it's not up to you to criticize and call hypocrite a group who wants to boycott a brand because of a F GENOCIDE just because you can't stand to see them criticize your fav actor.
Again. I love Inaki and I will still love him after that, but he screwed up big time and need to understand why. Especially in this context we NEED to boycott MacDonalds. At least until they really start to make a change.
There is no such things. Careful because what i'm seeing here is exactly what I did a few years ago, and this is a slippy path. Don't turn into that kind of people.
Asking for Islamophobia to stop is not depicting the Quran as a beacon of human's right, it simply stepping up to defend an oppress minority in Europe.
Do not forget that what Muslims are living at the moment is the same things Jew lived between 1900 and 1940.
We ALL KNOW where it lead.
Which is exactly what we are trying to do by destroying the finances of Israel at the moment.
Holy shit , a rare Solis W
You talk seriously like that when you are in bad mood, what is eating you?
You talk seriously like that when you are in bad mood, what is eating you?
You choose in Italy, my point is worldwide. You start to derive from the subject first by showing how you distrust scientist, don't blame me.
Again. The subject is the distrust of science, and scientist saved the day with COVID, not politicians, not Trump, not Medias, SCIENTISTS.
Race to the vaccine after undermining time and time the battle against Covid.
1. It's not "science" it's the opinion of one scientist.
2. He was right to say that at the time and he was right to be cautious later. Why ? Because he got new informations in between concerning the cases of Thrombosis. (which again, are rare, just like he explained in the first statement).
Again. You do not take into account the scientific and social context and so you fall into a fear mongering and anti-scientific spiral.
Yes it's technically a lie, but that's due to bad communication and therefore bad politics and not bad science. Which - again - is our subject at the moment.
Now, this doesn't negate the fact that the green pass or any other pass in this context was STILL necessary.
Blame the communication and politics who are bad at their jobs, not scientist who try to save other people.
Well, it's you who equate a progressive discourse with a destructive one, not me...
Your immune system. Vaccines have a very small factors of risk. But it was either that or have fun risking to live all your life in a bed without being able to stand or breath correctly
Which is why we need more scientist and not more people lashing out on scientists.
Science is the best method to understand the world, period. If you have something better, go ahead.
You are the one denying facts mate.
In your glory, you confuse politics with scientific practice and communications with consensus.
Don't blame me for your poor judgment...
I see.
This statement is saying a lot.
A W for people who were under oppression and are now celebrating ? Nah... it has to be a campist things with you. Negating the agentivity of millions of middle-eastern people.
There is a difference between doubting (which I did at the time) and denying the only solution to stop a global pandemic thus risking and endangering the lives of millions of people.
And I criticize the F I want to. Ok ?
We are talking here about a genocide in plain sight, 40000 people dead with war crimes and crimes against humanity and your are choosing to make the worse comparison ever to justify a Mc Donald commercial.
I've been patient with you and your chaos baiting, but don't push the button.
I think you don't understand that it is not as easy to boycott the brand supporting Israel right now and Chine. So stop the fallacious comparisons please.
Here
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/brazil-amazon-boycott/index.html
You mean, like the boycott of Bollore products and brand ?
Yeah, we are already doing that kind of stuff.
You are not talking about the left here, you are talking about liberals.
You are german, where you live .. THERE IS NO LEFT.
There are at best some social democrats who are a bit progressist. Your country just refuse to apply international laws for Goda's sake.
So don't come and running to criticize the left because I'm starting to believe that you actually don't understand what the left is. This is not the first time that I see you say some pretty stange skit. I've gave a pass in front of your Anti-vax and anti-scientific tendancies, but here you are crossing a line by trying to compare F GENOCIDE to a deforestation.
Not only that but you are using a pure fallacious rethoric here:
It's not up to you to tell people what they should not boycott. Same thing it's not up to you to criticize and call hypocrite a group who wants to boycott a brand because of a F GENOCIDE just because you can't stand to see them criticize your fav actor.
Again. I love Inaki and I will still love him after that, but he screwed up big time and need to understand why. Especially in this context we NEED to boycott MacDonalds. At least until they really start to make a change.
There is no such things. Careful because what i'm seeing here is exactly what I did a few years ago, and this is a slippy path. Don't turn into that kind of people.
Asking for Islamophobia to stop is not depicting the Quran as a beacon of human's right, it simply stepping up to defend an oppress minority in Europe.
Do not forget that what Muslims are living at the moment is the same things Jew lived between 1900 and 1940.
We ALL KNOW where it lead.
Which is exactly what we are trying to do by destroying the finances of Israel at the moment.
See @Bisoromi Bear when Nameless starts to agrees with you right now, it's the sign that you are not really saying the most pertinent things
Again. The subject is the distrust of science, and scientist saved the day with COVID, not politicians, not Trump, not Medias, SCIENTISTS.
Race to the vaccine after undermining time and time the battle against Covid.
1. It's not "science" it's the opinion of one scientist.
2. He was right to say that at the time and he was right to be cautious later. Why ? Because he got new informations in between concerning the cases of Thrombosis. (which again, are rare, just like he explained in the first statement).
Again. You do not take into account the scientific and social context and so you fall into a fear mongering and anti-scientific spiral.
Yes it's technically a lie, but that's due to bad communication and therefore bad politics and not bad science. Which - again - is our subject at the moment.
Now, this doesn't negate the fact that the green pass or any other pass in this context was STILL necessary.
Blame the communication and politics who are bad at their jobs, not scientist who try to save other people.
Well, it's you who equate a progressive discourse with a destructive one, not me...
Your immune system. Vaccines have a very small factors of risk. But it was either that or have fun risking to live all your life in a bed without being able to stand or breath correctly
Which is why we need more scientist and not more people lashing out on scientists.
Science is the best method to understand the world, period. If you have something better, go ahead.
You are the one denying facts mate.
In your glory, you confuse politics with scientific practice and communications with consensus.
Don't blame me for your poor judgment...
I see.
This statement is saying a lot.
A W for people who were under oppression and are now celebrating ? Nah... it has to be a campist things with you. Negating the agentivity of millions of middle-eastern people.
There is a difference between doubting (which I did at the time) and denying the only solution to stop a global pandemic thus risking and endangering the lives of millions of people.
And I criticize the F I want to. Ok ?
We are talking here about a genocide in plain sight, 40000 people dead with war crimes and crimes against humanity and your are choosing to make the worse comparison ever to justify a Mc Donald commercial.
I've been patient with you and your chaos baiting, but don't push the button.
I think you don't understand that it is not as easy to boycott the brand supporting Israel right now and Chine. So stop the fallacious comparisons please.
Here
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/05/business/brazil-amazon-boycott/index.html
You mean, like the boycott of Bollore products and brand ?
Yeah, we are already doing that kind of stuff.
You are not talking about the left here, you are talking about liberals.
You are german, where you live .. THERE IS NO LEFT.
There are at best some social democrats who are a bit progressist. Your country just refuse to apply international laws for Goda's sake.
So don't come and running to criticize the left because I'm starting to believe that you actually don't understand what the left is. This is not the first time that I see you say some pretty stange skit. I've gave a pass in front of your Anti-vax and anti-scientific tendancies, but here you are crossing a line by trying to compare F GENOCIDE to a deforestation.
Not only that but you are using a pure fallacious rethoric here:
It's not up to you to tell people what they should not boycott. Same thing it's not up to you to criticize and call hypocrite a group who wants to boycott a brand because of a F GENOCIDE just because you can't stand to see them criticize your fav actor.
Again. I love Inaki and I will still love him after that, but he screwed up big time and need to understand why. Especially in this context we NEED to boycott MacDonalds. At least until they really start to make a change.
There is no such things. Careful because what i'm seeing here is exactly what I did a few years ago, and this is a slippy path. Don't turn into that kind of people.
Asking for Islamophobia to stop is not depicting the Quran as a beacon of human's right, it simply stepping up to defend an oppress minority in Europe.
Do not forget that what Muslims are living at the moment is the same things Jew lived between 1900 and 1940.
We ALL KNOW where it lead.
Which is exactly what we are trying to do by destroying the finances of Israel at the moment.
See @Bisoromi Bear when Nameless starts to agrees with you right now, it's the sign that you are not really saying the most pertinent things
That is called gaslighting. He tries to tire and confuse people. It is why people are tired of replying to him. I think mods should do something about this. Educated words doesn't mean healthy conversation. He throws no names cause he is scared of the axe, instead he tries to shame you using his mental gymnastics.
Netanjahu said they only bombed a chemical weapon warehouse/factory owned by Assad.
I thought there are jews living in Golan. Why should Israel bomb their own kin lmao.
I trust Netanjahu when he said what he said.
I also believe in coexistence with Israel, one day, sooner or later.
People venting against boogieman Logiko?
I thought there are jews living in Golan. Why should Israel bomb their own kin lmao.
I trust Netanjahu when he said what he said.
I also believe in coexistence with Israel, one day, sooner or later.
People venting against boogieman Logiko?
What can I say, you trust a guy that is being investigated by the international court of justice for crimes against humanity and other things. To each their idols.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/...nt-for-israeli-prime-minister-intl/index.html
Oh, and do not forget the UN and Amnesty finding that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...itting-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/
Really a trustworthy guy.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/...nt-for-israeli-prime-minister-intl/index.html
Oh, and do not forget the UN and Amnesty finding that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...itting-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/
Really a trustworthy guy.
So comparing genocide with genocide is the worst comparison ever and it pushes your buttons?
I am talking about the left and in some cases i mentioned i was referring to self styled environmental activists. Not in Germany alone but worldwide.
Do you even know what deforestation entails? How entire cultures are being destroyed, people driven to deadly starvation, illegal encroachment on their lands leading to transmission of diseases, agribusiness sending out literal death squads to extinguish indigenous lives?
Tell me you didn't know about these things, then go and do your homework and inform yourself.
If the other possibility is true, that you DO know about these atrocities but choose to look the other way or simply do not value the lives destroyed as high as the lives of the Gazans, then you are worse than a hypocrite.
I don't care about this Mc Donald's ad but those who choose to boycott this one guy for appearing in it are nothing but a mob of easily manipulated, misguided sheep that do not care about the problems this world is facing.
It's related to the ''plastic products are good because they are vegan'' mindset.
Straw man.
What Muslims? The Muslims in Gaza? Perhaps.
But ALL Muslims? Couldn't be further from the truth. Idk in what circles you run but try not to follow every mob that gave themselves a progressive coat of paint.
I have this guy on ignore because of how much he expressed his deranged, fundamentalistic views on the indigenous population in his own country, among other things. I dont know which post he agreed with.
This is not what you are doing, and you know it. Stop being deceptive.
I am talking about the left and in some cases i mentioned i was referring to self styled environmental activists. Not in Germany alone but worldwide.
Do you even know what deforestation entails? How entire cultures are being destroyed, people driven to deadly starvation, illegal encroachment on their lands leading to transmission of diseases, agribusiness sending out literal death squads to extinguish indigenous lives?
Tell me you didn't know about these things, then go and do your homework and inform yourself.
If the other possibility is true, that you DO know about these atrocities but choose to look the other way or simply do not value the lives destroyed as high as the lives of the Gazans, then you are worse than a hypocrite.
I don't care about this Mc Donald's ad but those who choose to boycott this one guy for appearing in it are nothing but a mob of easily manipulated, misguided sheep that do not care about the problems this world is facing.
It's related to the ''plastic products are good because they are vegan'' mindset.
Straw man.
What Muslims? The Muslims in Gaza? Perhaps.
But ALL Muslims? Couldn't be further from the truth. Idk in what circles you run but try not to follow every mob that gave themselves a progressive coat of paint.
I have this guy on ignore because of how much he expressed his deranged, fundamentalistic views on the indigenous population in his own country, among other things. I dont know which post he agreed with.
This is not what you are doing, and you know it. Stop being deceptive.
Chill on what exactly ? You guyz are the one spreading missinformation
I debunked literally each one of your points. Are you for real right now ?
Ok.. i'm entering emoji mode, I was wrong to take you seriously for a second, you guyz are back in post-truth rethorics..
That's not what gaslighting is my guy
You are confusing yourself on your own. I'm not responsible for you trusting missinformations.
That's called being smart.
I do fear the BAN hammer because I know full well that I'm in ennemy territory. This is not a safe place.
Does it means that I should respect those who are saying BS ? Nah. But I reply to you with facts, not insults. You simply refuse to accept them.
There are sooooo many way to see that.
I'm so scary
You missed the 2571 pages mate.
Comparing two situations that have nothing in common is. You would have talked about Ukrained or Congo.. well I would have listenned, but the destructions of rainforest and the endangering of natives is not really the same thing as an apartheid and a genocide on top of multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity when all mainstream media and politics are on the side of the oppressors...
Come on..
The left worldwide is doing the job. What you are talking about here are liberals, not leftists.
Those who disguise themselves as progressist but do absolutely nothing against people in power.
The left do what it can. Instead of trashing it, maybe we should help it.
I know and the comprison is bad. Period.
And right now, you are confusing putting a priority on Gaza (which SHOULD be the priority of everyone) and looking away in front of horrible things happening all over in the world.
1. Everyone has different way to fight and everyone can't fight for everything.
2. It's not has easy to counter different problems such as the destructions of rainforest, post-colonialism and the genocide
3. It's a fallacious rethoric. Prioritizing is NOT looking away.
So stop this fallacious thinking please and listen to people who are trying to tell you that there is a priority at the moment on top of all other priorities.
Nobody is saying that we must boycott Inaki, I love the guy, I tell you that we must boycott mcdonald. Inaki just made a communication mistake.
Most likely because he is depoliticized.
No. I recognize this rethoric, it's the same I had when I was slipping into Islamophobia myself.
So I'm telling you, don't fall for it.
Mulsim are not your ennemies.
I'm talking about muslims in Europe.
About your statement on the left.
This is exactly what I'm doing.
I myself have been boycotting Mc Donald since I know the BDS movement and the involvement of the brand in Israel. Same for Carrefour and other brands.
(Even if it's not always easy)
It's not a one day thing.
I debunked literally each one of your points. Are you for real right now ?
Ok.. i'm entering emoji mode, I was wrong to take you seriously for a second, you guyz are back in post-truth rethorics..
That's not what gaslighting is my guy
You are confusing yourself on your own. I'm not responsible for you trusting missinformations.
That's called being smart.
I do fear the BAN hammer because I know full well that I'm in ennemy territory. This is not a safe place.
Does it means that I should respect those who are saying BS ? Nah. But I reply to you with facts, not insults. You simply refuse to accept them.
There are sooooo many way to see that.
I'm so scary
You missed the 2571 pages mate.
Comparing two situations that have nothing in common is. You would have talked about Ukrained or Congo.. well I would have listenned, but the destructions of rainforest and the endangering of natives is not really the same thing as an apartheid and a genocide on top of multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity when all mainstream media and politics are on the side of the oppressors...
Come on..
The left worldwide is doing the job. What you are talking about here are liberals, not leftists.
Those who disguise themselves as progressist but do absolutely nothing against people in power.
The left do what it can. Instead of trashing it, maybe we should help it.
I know and the comprison is bad. Period.
And right now, you are confusing putting a priority on Gaza (which SHOULD be the priority of everyone) and looking away in front of horrible things happening all over in the world.
1. Everyone has different way to fight and everyone can't fight for everything.
2. It's not has easy to counter different problems such as the destructions of rainforest, post-colonialism and the genocide
3. It's a fallacious rethoric. Prioritizing is NOT looking away.
So stop this fallacious thinking please and listen to people who are trying to tell you that there is a priority at the moment on top of all other priorities.
Nobody is saying that we must boycott Inaki, I love the guy, I tell you that we must boycott mcdonald. Inaki just made a communication mistake.
Most likely because he is depoliticized.
No. I recognize this rethoric, it's the same I had when I was slipping into Islamophobia myself.
So I'm telling you, don't fall for it.
Mulsim are not your ennemies.
I'm talking about muslims in Europe.
About your statement on the left.
This is exactly what I'm doing.
I myself have been boycotting Mc Donald since I know the BDS movement and the involvement of the brand in Israel. Same for Carrefour and other brands.
(Even if it's not always easy)
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It's not a one day thing.
I mentioned Xinjiang and you basically glossed over it.
OK just say that you don't give fck about indigenous people . You're using the word 'endanger' here, this is how people talk about species of animals.
Do your homework and look up the things i mentioned. All i understood is that you're prioritising the one conflict that all your twitter friends are talking about. You follow the crowd and say what is popular. If y'all were intellectually honest you'd boycott all companies that make their money on the corpses of human beings. You are not doing this. Read my initial post again and you'd see that i used the word 'Islamism' which is not synonymous with Islam. You mean those that want to establish a caliphate?😂
Do your homework and look up the things i mentioned. All i understood is that you're prioritising the one conflict that all your twitter friends are talking about. You follow the crowd and say what is popular. If y'all were intellectually honest you'd boycott all companies that make their money on the corpses of human beings. You are not doing this. Read my initial post again and you'd see that i used the word 'Islamism' which is not synonymous with Islam. You mean those that want to establish a caliphate?😂
