General & Others Did mihawk try to fight the strongest active sword user?

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Acting like Whitebeard and kaido didn’t do enough to prove themselves is crazy

You tried to boil it down to whether or not he fought other swordsmen though. That's the thing.
He doesn't need to do that to be the WSS. The fact he literally got a title card saying he's the WSS and has multiple reliable and experienced characters agreeing that he's the WSS is good enough

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Acting like Whitebeard and kaido didn’t do enough to prove themselves is crazy

It’s not like those two had their specific arcs focusing on them or something… also, they didn’t do shit to prove their titles… Kaido had a 3 day long fight with Big mom that ENDED IN A DRAW… If Oda wanted Kaido to prove his WSC title, why didn’t he beat big mom? Whitebeard DIRECTLY SAYS HIMSELF that he’s no longer WSM mid battle

So what exactly do these two do to prove their titles besides simply being the focus of their arcs… of course you’re also ignoring the fact that the their titles contradict, how can Kaido be WSC when Whitebeard is WSM and vice versa… You’re ignoring that obvious problem

 

[Rurushu]

Bro, I'd really like to know.
Is Oda implying that Mihawk's title is fake?
@Albino 👑

 

[RiShin]

Just like how Kaido's title of WSC was proven wrong by how a secret skill of Advance CoC can finally injure him.
The world strongest creature who can't get harm or killed...

Whitebeard saying he can't be the strongest forever because father times always wins and Aids illness weaken him.

Eventually we gonna get the reason how Hawkeye got his title.
Could be his reputation as the marine hunter who defeated a strong marine swordsman or the previous WSS.
Could be from Shanks who people/ WG thinks he the one that cut his arm off.
Forging Yoru as a black blade therefore having the strongest sword.

But since Oda likes Shanks way too much and it's a nice troll move on Oda part. It gotta be related to Shanks. Lolz
I'm up for the meltdown that is waiting to come.

 

[Albino 👑]

You tried to boil it down to whether or not he fought other swordsmen though. That's the thing.
He doesn't need to do that to be the WSS. The fact he literally got a title card saying he's the WSS and has multiple reliable and experienced characters agreeing that he's the WSS is good enough

All that matters is if he fought the strongest swordsman. Which is whythe thread is called “Did mihawk try to fight the strongest active sword user?” while listing active characters that used swords at the time

This isn’t asking if he’s the wss he’s already got the title. It’s asking if he fought the previous strongest person with a sword

It’s alsnot like those two had their specific arcs focusing on them or something… also, they didn’t do shit to prove their titles… Kaido had a 3 day long fight with Big mom that ENDED IN A DRAW… If Oda wanted Kaido to prove his WSC title, why didn’t he beat big mom? Whitebeard DIRECTLY SAYS HIMSELF that he’s no longer WSM mid battle

So what exactly do these two do to prove their titles besides simply being the focus of their arcs… of course you’re also ignoring the fact that the their titles contradict, how can Kaido be WSC when Whitebeard is WSM and vice versa… You’re ignoring that obvious problem

Kaido and big mom are close in power and neither was really going all out at all. Hell all the emperors and admirals would give kaido a hard time especially if he isn’t taking it fully serious. That doesn’t mean he isn’t the strongest or didn’t prove himself in him multiple battles against the emperors and world government
Dying old and sick Whitebeard during marineford obviously wasn’t the strongest anymore lol. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t before the sickness really took over

Both were referred to ass the world’s strongest pirate. Both of them fought the strongest pirates
Both of them only being referred as such when the previous strongest pirates were gone. After Roger and xebec were gone it was whitebeard. After whitebeard was gone it was Kaido
I’ve said it before but imo the wsm and wsc titles are more fruit based. The wsp claims being way more important

Bro, I'd really like to know.
Is Oda implying that Mihawk's title is fake?
@Albino 👑

None of the titles are “fake” regardless of how they got them. At the same time doesn’t necessarily make them true either since you can argue the validity of any of them tbh. Especially talking in consideration imu and the gorosei

 

[JoNdule]

stop lumping Mihawk with kaido or WB

Kaido and WB proved themselves by constantly fighting the strongest guys out there
So it's normal for people to crown them WSP after Roger dies, WB gets it, and when WB died, Kaido got it cause the world has seen and heard about their combat against other top guys

Mihawk ? Who did he fight that was a top tier? Nobody

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Both of them fought the strongest pirate

They never won tho. Kaido didn’t beat big mom, Whitebeard didn’t beat Roger

the WSS title doesn’t work like that… Zoro HAS TO BEAT mihawk… there is no ambiguity allowed… Zoro cannot have a draw with Mihawk the way Kaido has a draw with big mom and then get the WSS title from a draw

see the difference?

 

[Rurushu]

All that matters is if he fought the strongest swordsman. Which is whythe thread is called “Did mihawk try to fight the strongest active sword user?” while listing active characters that used swords at the time

This isn’t asking if he’s the wss he’s already got the title. It’s asking if he fought the previous strongest person with a sword


Kaido and big mom are close in power and neither was really going all out at all. Hell all the emperors and admirals would give kaido a hard time especially if he isn’t taking it fully serious. That doesn’t mean he isn’t the strongest or didn’t prove himself in him multiple battles against the emperors and world government
Dying old and sick Whitebeard during marineford obviously wasn’t the strongest anymore lol. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t before the sickness really took over

Both were referred to ass the world’s strongest pirate. Both of them fought the strongest pirates
Both of them only being referred as such when the previous strongest pirates were gone. After Roger and xebec were gone it was whitebeard. After whitebeard was gone it was Kaido
I’ve said it before but imo the wsm and wsc titles are more fruit based. The wsp claims being way more important


None of the titles are “fake” regardless of how they got them. At the same time doesn’t necessarily make them true either since you can argue the validity of any of them tbh. Especially talking in consideration imu and the gorosei

I'm not asking you as someone who is in the context of OP world or anything like that.

As a reader do you think there's a slim chance that Mihawk isn't actually world's strongest swordsman and Zoro was chasing the wrong guy all along?

 

[Albino 👑]

They never won tho. Kaido didn’t beat big mom, Whitebeard didn’t beat Roger

the WSS title doesn’t work like that… Zoro HAS TO BEAT mihawk… there is no ambiguity allowed… Zoro cannot have a draw with Mihawk the way Kaido has a draw with big mom and then get the WSS title from a draw

see the difference?

Whitebeard was equal to Roger they were the strongest but when Roger left he automatically became the strongest
Kaido and Linlin aren’t equal they’re just close in strength like most top tier. Kaido didn’t get his title from a draw with her

And yeah you technically can get a title from a draw if the other person is also debatable. Like with Whitebeard

If you believe mihawk got his title because he was equal with shanks and he lost his arm fine

I'm not asking you as someone who is in the context of OP world or anything like that.

As a reader do you think there's a slim chance that Mihawk isn't actually world's strongest strongest swordsman and Zoro was chasing the wrong guy all along?

Yeah nusjuro and peak s-hawk being the most obvious possibilities
Then theirs also characters that use blades/swords that don’t follow under the wss umbrella

 

[Rurushu]

Yeah nusjuro and peak s-hawk being the most obvious possibilities
Then theirs also characters that use blades/swords that don’t follow under the wss umbrella

We both know that S-Hawk's case more likely fanfic than what Oda actually going to do.

Venus is the real and probably one only possibility tho.

 

[Albino 👑]

We both know that S-Hawk's case more likely fanfic than what Oda actually going to do.

Venus is the real and probably one only possibility tho.

?
He created a character that’s basically mihawk if he was a giant lunarian cyborg that ate a fruit that makes his whole body a blade. Why would he not use him

 

[RiShin]

stop lumping Mihawk with kaido or WB

Kaido and WB proved themselves by constantly fighting the strongest guys out there
So it's normal for people to crown them WSP after Roger dies, WB gets it, and when WB died, Kaido got it cause the world has seen and heard about their combat against other top guys

Mihawk ? Who did he fight that was a top tier? Nobody

If only Hawkeye fought Oden while in his small flashback to give praise to the young Hawkeye...

Or heck Rayleigh or anyone of notes.
Why did it solely have to be Shanks?

 

[Rurushu]

?
He created a character that’s basically mihawk if he was a giant lunarian cyborg that ate a fruit that makes his whole body a blade. Why would he not use him

Because ha has no personality and basically a copy of another character.
He will not fight Zoro.

 

[Albino 👑]

Because ha has no personality and basically a copy of another character.
He will not fight Zoro.

They’re still growing
It’s a mihawk but stronger. He even has haki

 

[Rurushu]

They’re still growing
It’s a mihawk but stronger. He even has haki

Bro it's so forced lol but ok.

 

[Albino 👑]

Bro it's so forced lol but ok.

Oda made them
It’d be a waste not to have the seraphim reach their primes

 

[JoNdule]

If only Hawkeye fought Oden while in his small flashback to give praise to the young Hawkeye...

Or heck Rayleigh or anyone of notes.
Why did it solely have to be Shanks?

If he fought them to an equal small clash, it gives his title more credibility

Nobody would question Zoro's wss title when he gets it cause he's fighting strong guys and will end up fighting top tiers 1v1 ,and win

 

[Rurushu]

Oda made them
It’d be a waste not to have the seraphim reach their primes

 

[Zenos7]

Mihawk ? Who did he fight that was a top tier? Nobody

Feel free to share the panel evidence that made you reach this conclusion with the rest of us.

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Then theirs also characters that use blades/swords that don’t follow under the wss umbrella

Like who?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Whitebeard was equal to Roger they were the strongest but when Roger left he automatically became the strongest

This is headcanon

in fact in the Vivre cards, Whitebeard was WSM during his fight with Roger…

note that you don’t know how Whitebeard and Kaido got their titles outside of your headcanon

all we know is that THEY DIDNT BEAT ANYONE for their titles… hence why Luffy didn’t become WSC and teach didn’t become WSM after beating them