Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1134 Spoilers Discussion

We just confirmed that the summoning circle is not exclusive to Saturn’s ability.

It might be a haki ability, summary said that a black lightning struck the castle first. I’m thinking that this might be a Voice of All Things application.
Haki lightnings aren't seen
Especially not by people without haki

The ability is from imu
Gorosei & Knights can perform this ability
Garling probably moved them since he replaced saturn
 
Haki lightnings aren't seen
Especially not by people without haki

The ability is from imu
Gorosei & Knights can perform this ability
Garling probably moved them since he replaced saturn
The lightning could still be invisible, or did we get confirmation that someone saw it in Egghead? All we know is the summoning circle becomes visible.

Edit: Nvm, someone saw it but was it ever said that CoC is invisible? I know that armament is supposed to be.
 
The lightning could still be invisible, or did we get confirmation that someone saw it in Egghead? All we know is the summoning circle becomes visible.

Edit: Nvm, someone saw it but was it ever said that CoC is invisible? I know that armament is supposed to be.
armament hardening is visibly black and people talk about it in the series. it's invisible most of the time but if you see someone turn something black, everyone can generally see that. mihawk talks about how you can turn any sword black with haki to harden it and make it unbreakable.

no one has ever really commented one way or the other in-manga about haki's visibility, except for Rayleigh telling Luffy that to understand the absolute basics of armament haki, he could think of it as a suit of invisible armor.

the lightning from coc or coa or whatever it is, we know very little about the mechanics of this. any time anyone on the forum, or twitter, or reddit, or whatever, talks about how people don't see haki, or you need haki to see haki, or haki lightning is visible but hardening isnt, or hardening is only visible to the reader, or whatever, it's all headcanon. we don't actually know. it might be visible or it might not. it's probably visible because we see it in the manga and then look at people making :shocked: reaction faces about big displays of haki.

in egghead, random marines did talk about seeing the lightning. if the teleportation ability is haki, this would imply that any fodder can see the haki lightning
 
armament hardening is visibly black and people talk about it in the series. it's invisible most of the time but if you see someone turn something black, everyone can generally see that. mihawk talks about how you can turn any sword black with haki to harden it and make it unbreakable.

no one has ever really commented one way or the other in-manga about haki's visibility, except for Rayleigh telling Luffy that to understand the absolute basics of armament haki, he could think of it as a suit of invisible armor.

the lightning from coc or coa or whatever it is, we know very little about the mechanics of this. any time anyone on the forum, or twitter, or reddit, or whatever, talks about how people don't see haki, or you need haki to see haki, or haki lightning is visible but hardening isnt, or hardening is only visible to the reader, or whatever, it's all headcanon. we don't actually know. it might be visible or it might not. it's probably visible because we see it in the manga and then look at people making :shocked: reaction faces about big displays of haki.

in egghead, random marines did talk about seeing the lightning. if the teleportation ability is haki, this would imply that any fodder can see the haki lightning
I agree, everything is still speculation for now. The black blade being tied to armament haki is pretty damning evidence imo though.
 
I mean sure but we talking about the final arc here in this context. So thats not relevant in this discussion. We saw the gorosei already fight, some of them showed even hybrid form. We saw their characterization, even some of their inner thoguhts. We saw them interact with the main cast without provoking any meaningful connection (maybe you can count the zoro nusjuro hary potter wand moment). They are overall boring as fuck


And, this is the most important part, even if you are a big power scaling guy that doesnt care about nothing else: We saw how they are mere tools for imu and their powers can be taken in a matter of minutes from one and granted to another. Given that the likes of Saturn couldnt really fight for example, beside the grantes powers from DF and/or imu powers there is also not even a argument if you think oda cares about power level that much

Imu could give the power of gorosei to charlos and it would fulfill the same purpose those characters fulfill now
But Danks is going to lose now, in this arc… He’s probably the strongest holy knight and he’s already going to lose BEFORE the Gorosei lose… and you can’t count Garling among the holy knights now since he’s a Gorosei… So again, these guys are t important… Danks is important but the group itself is not
 
Edit: Nvm, someone saw it but was it ever said that CoC is invisible? I know that armament is supposed to be
No character has EVER mentioned being able to see a haki effect… no one has ever said they could see Black armament hardening… no has said the could see any lightning from any clash, thus includes white lightning or black lightning for any haki

the only time someone has said they could see black lightning was that Gorosei summoning scene
 
The World Government has already been named as responsible earlier in the speech.
Nope. Vegapunk never once says they could see world government is the one that used the ancient weapons even 800 years ago

thank you for providing the transcript that proves me right. Vegapunk never once blames the WG for the flooding and the only time he mentions them was that they fought Joyboy… thats exactly what I said

anyway if you want further proof that Vegapunk doesn’t accuse the WG of trying to end the world you can just look at the reactions to his news. No single person reacting to the information ever says “let’s storm Mariejois and stop them from killing us all”… Dragon says that Vegapunk’s entire speech will only result in everyone going to war with each other over higher ground… If Vegapunk had revealed the culprit of the flooding, then obviously the entire world would unite to destroy the culprit, but he didn’t

Oh btw I hope you understand what I’m saying, I’m saying Vegapunk DID NOT TELL THE ONE PIECE WORLD who was flooding the world… We the readers of course know since we are readers… I’m saying Vegapunk didn’t tell the in world people this so the general masses on the world don’t know it’s the WG that’s trying to mass murder the entire planet
 
No character has EVER mentioned being able to see a haki effect… no one has ever said they could see Black armament hardening… no has said the could see any lightning from any clash, thus includes white lightning or black lightning for any haki

the only time someone has said they could see black lightning was that Gorosei summoning scene
No one mentioning the lightning doesn’t disprove that it’s not there. This might be a very high-level use of haki to manifest oneself to another place. Remember that devil fruits are basically just people wishing for these powers as implied by Vegapunk. Haki and dfs are two sides of the same coin - willpower. An outlandish application of haki like this summoning circle is not farfetched when you think about how people willed devil fruits into existence themselves.

VOAT is also another outlandish application of haki tbh
 
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