Le Fishe Thread Can haki neg swords?

[Thaidakar]

Your point?
Haki negs everything in OP verse, swords mean very little of you're equipped with strong enough haki.

Person X with haki level 99 and Yoru would lose to Person Y with haki level 100 and a sword that's 99% Yoru.

Swords are as strong as their wielder.
DFs however are free power coupons. Usop with the Gura Gura no mi can destroy an island. Usop picking up Yoru would probably die the moment he thinks of it.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Thats a special sword technique amplified with Haki at the end where Alber was also weakened by going all out.

If Zolo simply used Haki blast like here and break Haki sword then it would be only because of Haki:

Zolo's Haki only works to protect himself, he can't do shit to high level fighers.

He can only break low level fighters swords like Hyouzu's:

? ? Show me one high level fighter that was defeated by purely haki. Haki just KO fodders. People that can get 1 shot by base Franky. Joyboy haki didn't do shit to Kizaru. Shanks couldn't KO greenbull and Joyboy still couldn't KO saturn

 

[MonsterKaido]

@L57 How much time will you waste debating with rootbeer?

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Anyways strong blades like supreme blades can't be affected by pure haki.

 

[Erkan12]

? ? Show me one high level fighter that was defeated by purely haki. Haki just KO fodders. People that can get 1 shot by base Franky. Joyboy haki didn't do shit to Kizaru. Shanks couldn't KO greenbull and Joyboy still couldn't KO saturn

Kamusari is purely Haki blow, it doesn't cut.

Shanks hurt Greenbull from miles away.

Joyboy hurt Imu from miles away.

Zolo's Haki blast didn't hurt Alber like Shanks hurt Greenbull from miles away.

If Zolo tries to use Kamusari since Haki is too weak it wouldn't work. Zolo or Mihawk can't use wifi haki as well.

 

[Rootbeer]

Anyways strong blades like supreme blades can't be affected by pure haki.

Why not..

 

[Boiroy]

Erkan
Root beer
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Lmao clown to clown to clown conversation 🤣

 

[L57]

Kamusari is purely Haki blow, it doesn't cut.

Check zoro vs king
His final attack acoc went into king a body
Haki blow

@L57 How much time will you waste debating with rootbeer?

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Anyways strong blades like supreme blades can't be affected by pure haki.

One day he will stop trolling

 

[Kiri]

Haki can neg swords, but they also can't neg swords

This is why we have statements about weapons being able to withstand their users tremendous haki, Like WB and Kaido

That means Supreme Grade blades for example can withstand the might of Prime WB and Rogers haki, whereas a lesser blade might eventually crack from it.

It's interesting because you use haki to reinforce your blade, but if you use too much haki and your haki is too strong, you could potentially break your weapon. I'm guessing from the internal pressure of using that much haki.

This being the case, because we know any blade can become a black blade, it shows you can't just blast it with super strong haki again and again if it's lower grade, because it would eventually shatter. So that wouldn't be how you create it one. You could get away with that with a supreme grade, but only 12 of those exist.

But once that lower grade becomes a black blade it's the most elite class and would definitely withstand that kind of pressure from haki.

So a black blade is not just some outer coating that makes it heavier and more durable, the actual make of the sword changes, maybe even on an atomic level. Which goes in line with "forging" it into a black blade.
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In terms of negating the "will" of a blade, I don't know how much that would help if roger is coating ace in his conquerors haki, he used his will to tame it, so the blade is acting in accordance with his will anyway. And you're dealing with his will when you deal with his haki. So you're just trying to negate Rogers haki at that point.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Swords as supposed to cut. Haki been negging swords through out the series. Luffy blocks slashes with forearms, sanji with kicks etc and it's not like they use techniques to parry or someshit.

 

[Rootbeer]

Haki can neg swords, but they also can't neg swords

This is why we have statements about weapons being able to withstand their users tremendous haki, Like WB and Kaido

That means Supreme Grade blades for example can withstand the might of Prime WB and Rogers haki, whereas a lesser blade might eventually crack from it.

It's interesting because you use haki to reinforce your blade, but if you use too much haki and your haki is too strong, you could potentially break your weapon. I'm guessing from the internal pressure of using that much haki.

This being the case, because we know any blade can become a black blade, it shows you can't just blast it with super strong haki again and again if it's lower grade, because it would eventually shatter. So that wouldn't be how you create it one. You could get away with that with a supreme grade, but only 12 of those exist.

But once that lower grade becomes a black blade it's the most elite class and would definitely withstand that kind of pressure from haki.

So a black blade is not just some outer coating that makes it heavier and more durable, the actual make of the sword changes, maybe even on an atomic level. Which goes in line with "forging" it into a black blade.
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In terms of negating the "will" of a blade, I don't know how much that would help if roger is coating ace in his conquerors haki, he used his will to tame it, so the blade is acting in accordance with his will anyway. And you're dealing with his will when you deal with his haki. So you're just trying to negate Rogers haki at that point.

I want to say one thing about Black Blades.. Even though i'm of the same belief that Black Blades are a second Forging of the Blade.. The Japanese text never mention expressively that Black Blades are '' Forged '', that is an appropriation of the english translation.. Onimaru only say the verb '' Naru '', to become, to turn into, the same as Mihawk when he speaks of Black Blade to Zoro..

If a Blade that turned Black changes its very composition to of a higher quality, then by default their personality would grow too..

Black Blades may be the most '' elite class '', but in their own Grade, Shusui's quality is still inferior to other Supreme Grade Blades..

 

[Cruxroux]

We know with strong enough haki one can basically negate devil fruit abilities but can that same haki effect other things as well

No we are not certain about it.
We don't even knkw if they are devil fruit users.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Kamusari is purely Haki blow, it doesn't cut.

Shanks hurt Greenbull from miles away.

Joyboy hurt Imu from miles away.

Zolo's Haki blast didn't hurt Alber like Shanks hurt Greenbull from miles away.

If Zolo tries to use Kamusari since Haki is too weak it wouldn't work. Zolo or Mihawk can't use wifi haki as well.

Kamusari is a sword technique you dumbass. 😆
Shanks didn't do shit to Gab. GB literally fine. Shanks KO fodders on his ship.
Imu is literally fine and I didn't even say hurt. I said beat my guy. What top tier has they beaten with just a haki blast.
Zoro would use Kamusari, it would just be weaker cause Zoro not at that level yet.
Wifi haki hasn't beaten anybody except fodders

 

[Erkan12]

Kamusari is a sword technique you dumbass. 😆
Shanks didn't do shit to Gab. GB literally fine. Shanks KO fodders on his ship.
Imu is literally fine and I didn't even say hurt. I said beat my guy. What top tier has they beaten with just a haki blast.
Zoro would use Kamusari, it would just be weaker cause Zoro not at that level yet.
Wifi haki hasn't beaten anybody except fodders

You think Shanks and Roger can't use Kamusari with a metal stick? ZKKloser is retarded as usual.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/can-kamusari-be-used-with-a-metal-stick-or-club.42111/

''sword technique'' lmao retard.

Fujitora using gravity with sword isn't sword technique moron. Kamusari and Fujitora attacks are similar. Not sword techniques, they can use the same techniques without sword.

Greenbull was twerking like a bitch just like you are twerking for ZKK, how he was fine moron?

Zolo and Mihawk can't use Kamusari, can't use wifi haki, they are weak so need sword skills to cut so they can compete with stronger Haki users.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

You think Shanks and Roger can't use Kamusari with a metal stick? ZKKloser is retarded as usual.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/can-kamusari-be-used-with-a-metal-stick-or-club.42111/

''sword technique'' lmao retard.

Fujitora using gravity with sword isn't sword technique moron. Kamusari and Fujitora attacks are similar. Not sword techniques, they can use the same techniques without sword.

Greenbull was twerking like a bitch just like you are twerking for ZKK, how he was fine moron?

Zolo and Mihawk can't use Kamusari, can't use wifi haki, they are weak so need sword skills to cut so they can compete with stronger Haki users.

Zoro did Dragon twister without his sword you 🤡. Idc if they can do it with or without dumbass. The fact of the matter is they used a Sword. It's a Sword technique says the same shit in the Vivrecard calls same names has Mihawk techniques.
Gravity blade is a Sword technique you dumbass. He combining his swordmanship with his Fruit.
Lmao are you slow Shanks does not have a DF dumbass he not doing what Fuji is doing at all.
Zoro doesn't need Kamusari that shit he got his own style that's going to be the greatest style according to Oda

 

[Rukusho]

You think Shanks and Roger can't use Kamusari with a metal stick? ZKKloser is retarded as usual.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/can-kamusari-be-used-with-a-metal-stick-or-club.42111/

''sword technique'' lmao retard.

Fujitora using gravity with sword isn't sword technique moron. Kamusari and Fujitora attacks are similar. Not sword techniques, they can use the same techniques without sword.

Greenbull was twerking like a bitch just like you are twerking for ZKK, how he was fine moron?

Zolo and Mihawk can't use Kamusari, can't use wifi haki, they are weak so need sword skills to cut so they can compete with stronger Haki users.

This doesn’t work … the reason the swords/weapons are graded it’s due to how much they can take.

A simple metal baton will break being unable to handle the Haki output.. this is why they need to be Meitou’s this is why Murakumogiri is hyped to. Be able to handle not only WB’s Quake fruit but also his haki, this also helps what Mihawk taught Zoro to protect his weapons.. unless you think that skill isn’t important …