Chapter Discussion Chapter 820 - 821 of kingdom in English :

#4
Yoko Yoko is definitely over any Seika commander imo
I'm afraid to ask if there was ever any doubt in this fandom.

Yoko Yoko looks like Buddha level enforcer, but I think Shin is gonna beat his ass quicker and in a more dominant fashion than usual. Tou and ROM are definitely confident he'll win.


Also love the idea of Tou winning off Raku's first miscalculation. No margin for error allowed against this dude.
 
#5
Loved reading the chapter more than initial scans and spoilers.

I'm upscaling Yoko Yoko, being strongest fighter of a Nation, is definitely something. Also, the tactics seems to be who kills the enemy General first. So Han is staking the fight on Yoko Yoko chances of eliminating Shin, goes without saying this fight isn't going to be easy for Shin.​
 
#6
Loved reading the chapter more than initial scans and spoilers.

I'm upscaling Yoko Yoko, being strongest fighter of a Nation, is definitely something. Also, the tactics seems to be who kills the enemy General first. So Han is staking the fight on Yoko Yoko chances of eliminating Shin, goes without saying this fight isn't going to be easy for Shin.​
Shin is that dude now though.

I think, as part of his redemption for the back to back Ls, Shin is about to beat Yoko in much more dominant fashion than usual.
 
#7
Shin is that dude now though.

I think, as part of his redemption for the back to back Ls, Shin is about to beat Yoko in much more dominant fashion than usual.
I feel that would take away the stakes of the fight. This battle is the best fight Han is going to get, and it's not just Yoko Yoko, the elites have also surrounded Shin.
 
#8
I feel that would take away the stakes of the fight. This battle is the best fight Han is going to get, and it's not just Yoko Yoko, the elites have also surrounded Shin.
Tou is talking about Raku making a mistake and how he's about to crush him.

Everyone and their grandma knows Han is losing this battle.

Shin is due some hype after two back to back Ls.

I don't think this arc would suffer from Qin winning dominantly in this battle because they need to win without too many casualties anyway. How else are they to achieve victory then beside taking the enemy commanders? I think can have his hero moment against Yoko and do a ton to devastate the Han army morale and raise that of the Qin.
 

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#9
I'm afraid to ask if there was ever any doubt in this fandom.

Yoko Yoko looks like Buddha level enforcer, but I think Shin is gonna beat his ass quicker and in a more dominant fashion than usual. Tou and ROM are definitely confident he'll win.


Also love the idea of Tou winning off Raku's first miscalculation. No margin for error allowed against this dude.
I'm hoping Shin wins decisively after a longish fight.

It's been ages since we had a proper Shin 1v1 but he's also due for a big win too
 
#10
I'm hoping Shin wins decisively after a longish fight.

It's been ages since we had a proper Shin 1v1 but he's also due for a big win too
I'm with you on Shin being due for a proper 1v1, but I'd rather that be Gai Mou when he goes to relieve the Gyoku Hou or whatever.

Yoko Yoko is just an enforcer. Shin is at a place now where he should be able to have hero moment after some Ls and look damn good winning. He's overdue that more than a duel imo.
 

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#11
I'm with you on Shin being due for a proper 1v1, but I'd rather that be Gai Mou when he goes to relieve the Gyoku Hou or whatever.

Yoko Yoko is just an enforcer. Shin is at a place now where he should be able to have hero moment after some Ls and look damn good winning. He's overdue that more than a duel imo.
I don't expect Shin vs Gaimou to happen for several years/a few hundreds chapters. I think Shin having a moment where he comfortably beats Yoko Yoko but has to work for it and across a span of several chapters could work.

Also i'm guessing you share my disappointment that Yoko Yoko uses a glaive instead of a mace or a special weapon? lol
 
#12
These were great chapters. Tou's charge and his army's ability to move through this battlefield has been characterized in a great way. Han underestimating Shin is wild. It's crazy to me how they over-estimate their own abilities when they have not been in many (if any) major battles. They should be wary of the Qin war machine, and they are not which will ultimately lead to their downfall here.

I am happy that the Princess stayed to see what unfolds here. She will get a first-hand look at what awaits Han and she will be instrumental in saving so many lives just the way that Tou explained it to here. I do not see this battle taking place for too many chapters as a swift victory will show the Princess just how dire the situation facing Han truly is. Either way I will be happy with whatever we get because Hara is on fire right now.
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Tou is talking about Raku making a mistake and how he's about to crush him.

Everyone and their grandma knows Han is losing this battle
I think it will be a massive defeat. The Han think way to highly of themselves for not being involved in any major battles during this time period. They are the weakest State for a reason and Tou is about to show them why.
 
#13
I don't expect Shin vs Gaimou to happen for several years/a few hundreds chapters. I think Shin having a moment where he comfortably beats Yoko Yoko but has to work for it and across a span of several chapters could work.

Also i'm guessing you share my disappointment that Yoko Yoko uses a glaive instead of a mace or a special weapon? lol
I don't think Shin vs Gai Mou is going to happen any time soon either, I was just making the point of not really considering Yoko someone impressive for Shin to fight or beat at this stage.

I'd much rather see Shin win looking cool, and preferably in 2 chapters or less. Tou did say Raku's biggest mistake was underestimating Shin, and I'd like to think Shin is really in that mode where he's short on patience and high on anger - enough to take it out on Yoko in devastationg fashion.

I think it will be a massive defeat. The Han think way to highly of themselves for not being involved in any major battles during this time period. They are the weakest State for a reason and Tou is about to show them why.
I think it will be a massive defeat by virtue of the scale of the battle, what's at stake, and, possibly, because of who dies during it. For Qin to call it a success, it still needs to be a relatively "clean" victory, so we'll see.

I think the only way they achieve that is through martial dominance over Han's leaders. They don't necessarily all have to be killed off, but that killing one or two will go a long towards taking the fight out of the Han.
 
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#14
I don't think Shin vs Gai Mou is going to happen any time soon either, I was just making the point of not really considering Yoko someone impressive for Shin to fight or beat at this stage.

I'd much rather see Shin win looking cool, and preferably in 2 chapters or less. Tou did say Raku's biggest mistake was underestimating Shin, and I'd like to think Shin is really in that mode where he's short on patience and high on anger - enough to take it out on Yoko in devastationg fashion.



I think it will be a massive defeat by virtue of the scale of the battle, what's at stake, and, possibly, because of who dies during it. For Qin to call it a success, it still needs to be a relatively "clean" victory, so we'll see.

I think the only way they achieve that is through martial dominance over Han's leaders. They don't necessarily all have to be killed off, but that killing one or two will go a long towards taking the fight out of the Han.
that's fair

I'm hoping the battle lasts long enough for Shin to get 2-3 major moments

1. triumphing over Yoko Yoko in an impressive fight that shows Yoko isn't some scrub, but that Shin is past that level.

2. something to greatly help Qin win. I don't want him to take Raku'kan's head over Tou however
 
#15
that's fair

I'm hoping the battle lasts long enough for Shin to get 2-3 major moments

1. triumphing over Yoko Yoko in an impressive fight that shows Yoko isn't some scrub, but that Shin is past that level.

2. something to greatly help Qin win. I don't want him to take Raku'kan's head over Tou however
If Shin's biggest moment has to be defeating Yoko, an impressive W is imo the least he should get, and I think it also naturally feeds into more winning moments.

Yoko is the best warrior Han has to offer. If Shin cuts him down, I can see that take the fight out of a lot of Han soldiers on their side of the battle. Whether he wins impressively or not, Shin could 1) defeat Yoko, 2) win his side of the battle, and 3) set Raku up for defeat.
 
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