Questions & Mysteries Who is ready for Admiral Koby?

[Gyro]

You cornered nobody lil bro
I just don’t have the energy to expend towards changing a hater’s mind. Go talk to chatgpt or something

So me questioning your nonsense = me being a hater ?

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Bro is actually weird , made a thread , and said retards stay out , and retards are basically who doesn't agree with him.
If wants like minded people to listen to him why not make a private server and continue their circle jerk. What's the point of posting it publicly when you ain't entertaining any opinion except for yours.

Silly me for wanting a semi logical discussion instead of idiots screaming "HAHA ZORO ONE SHOT"

 

[park_min young]

So me questioning your nonsense = me being a hater ?

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Silly me for wanting a semi logical discussion instead of idiots screaming "HAHA ZORO ONE SHOT"

I’ve seen your posts before, you’re basically a new guy here that logs in to hate on Zoro. You probably met a couple Zoro trolls firsthand before joining any other OP community, you remind me of myself when I first started here. You’re far from logical yourself though so stop crying lol

What kind of logical guy puts EoS Coby above Zoro?

 

[Gyro]

I’ve seen your posts before, you’re basically a new guy here that logs in to hate on Zoro. You probably met a couple Zoro trolls firsthand before joining any other OP community, you remind me of myself when I first started here. You’re far from logical yourself though so stop crying lol

What kind of logical guy puts EoS Coby above Zoro?

The kind of logic that says one is his rival and the other is his underling .
If the underling is stronger than the rival, then the so-called rival isn’t a rival at all.

 

[park_min young]

The kind of logic that says one is his rival and the other is his underling .
If the underling is stronger than the rival, then the so-called rival isn’t a rival at all.

WB and all of the yonkos were all underlings of Xebec once upon a time. They can all rival Xebec‘s/Roger’s strength, hell prime Rayleigh is most likely equal or stronger than most of them bar WB. He was called Roger’s partner and Garp mentioned him in the same vein as WB.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[Dragon777]

What kind of logical guy puts EoS Coby above Zoro?

Well, try:

Old WB > Mihawk
Prime Garp > Old WB

(Can even work with prime WB ~ prime Garp > Mihawk)

Zoro > Mihawk
Koby > Prime Garp

* Not that you have to believe It, Just It's not impossible or illogical.

 

[Gyro]

WB and all of the yonkos were all underlings of Xebec once upon a time. They can all rival Roger’s strength, hell prime Rayleigh is most likely equal or stronger than most of them bar WB. He was called Roger’s partner and Garp mentioned him in the same vein as WB.

Can you prove while they were under Xebec they were rivals to Roger's strength ?
Garp mentioned him in the same vein as WB I can easily argue it's a false hype because chapters later he was panting after a couple of minutes clash with Kizaru . so clearly he's below WB. also both past their prime.

 

[park_min young]

Well, try:

Old WB > Mihawk
Prime Garp > Old WB

(Can even work with prime WB ~ prime Garp > Mihawk)

Zoro > Mihawk
Koby > Prime Garp

Do you believe that old WB is stronger than Shanks?
False equivalences through and through, you guys are using a>b>c arguments when it’s not applicable.

There’s also no narrative that says Roger and Luffy have 1:1 parallels. Such a forced way to prove something lol

Can you prove while they were under Xebec they were rivals to Roger's strength ?
Garp mentioned him in the same vein as WB I can easily argue it's a false hype because chapters later he was panting after a couple of minutes clash with Kizaru . so clearly he's below WB. also both past their prime.

Rayleigh even 2 years later made a yonko shit his pants and run away. That much is evidence that his prime self is much closer to the likes of prime WB than any of the modern yonkos. He also has way better portrayal and feats than Sengoku, Garp’s rival.

Can you prove that they weren’t? WB was for sure already close to his prime back then. He’s only a few years younger than Roger.

 

[Dragon777]

Do you believe that old WB is stronger than Shanks?
False equivalences through and through, you guys are using a>b>c arguments when it’s not applicable.

Yeah, since the manga made It clear that old, but still sane WB was the strongest multiple times:

"Currently"

Let's put a bunch of others just for fun:

Spoiler

+ Sengoku and a bunch of others.

Marco explained why, at MF, he wasn't that anymore:

Anyway, as I said It can work even with prime WB, who I hope Is considered unmistakably superior: prime WB ~ prime Garp > Mihawk (who in theory wasn't even above Kaido in the present era).

And no, there Is no false equivalce: Prime Garp (Koby's benchmark) Is simply stronger than Mihawk (Zoro's benchmark).

You can still think Koby won't reach that level or that Mihawk is even stronger than Prime WB/Roger/Garp (something that basically only Zoro fan believe for obvious reasons), but anyway It's not illogical to have prime Koby above prime Zoro.
Would be illogical to have any swordsmen above Zoro, for example.

 

[Gyro]

Rayleigh even 2 years later made a yonko shit his pants and run away. That much is evidence that his prime self is much closer to the likes of prime WB than any of the modern yonkos. He also has way better portrayal and feats than Sengoku, Garp’s rival.

That Yonko panicking has nothing to do with power , it’s just his character.

Would his rivals Shanks, Kaido, or Big Mom react the same way? No, because they have different personalities.

Also, you have no idea how strong Prime Whitebeard was.

He doesn’t have better portrayal or feats than Sengoku.

Sengoku’s portrayal places him on Garp’s level, and Garp’s portrayal places him on Roger’s level. Rayleigh doesn’t have a portrayal that puts him on Roger’s level .

Additionally, Sengoku restraining a bloodlusted Garp with 1 hand is a better feat than panting after a two-minute clash with Kizaru.

 

[park_min young]

Yeah, since the manga made It clear that old, but still sane WB was the strongest multiple times:

"Currently"

Let's put a bunch of others just for fun:

Spoiler

+ Sengoku and a bunch of others.

Marco explained why, at MF, he wasn't that anymore:

Anyway, as I said It can work even with prime WB, who I hope Is considered unmistakably superior: prime WB ~ prime Garp > Mihawk (who in theory wasn't even above Kaido in the present era).

And no, there Is no false equivalce: Prime Garp (Koby's benchmark) Is simply stronger than Mihawk (Zoro's benchmark).

You can still think Koby won't reach that level or that Mihawk is even stronger than Prime WB/Roger/Garp (something that basically only Zoro fan believe for obvious reasons), but anyway It's not illogical to have prime Koby above prime Zoro.
Would be illogical to have any swordsmen above Zoro, for example.

Zoro’s benchmark is to be the strongest swordsman in history which includes Roger. Am I doing this right?

That Yonko panicking has nothing to do with power , it’s just his character.

Would his rivals Shanks, Kaido, or Big Mom react the same way? No, because they have different personalities.

Also, you have no idea how strong Prime Whitebeard was.

He doesn’t have better portrayal or feats than Sengoku.

Sengoku’s portrayal places him on Garp’s level, and Garp’s portrayal places him on Roger’s level. Rayleigh doesn’t have a portrayal that puts him on Roger’s level .

Additionally, Sengoku restraining a bloodlusted Garp with 1 hand is a better feat than panting after a two-minute clash with Kizaru.

It has everything to do with power since he wasn’t even afraid of taking on Luffy/SHs with just half of his crew back in Winner’s Island. That tells you how much he feared Prime Rayleigh. And Rayleigh only said he’d lose because of old age, this comfortably puts his prime self above Teach.

You also have no idea how strong any of them were including Garp, Sengoku and Rayleigh.

He does have better feats and portrayal than Sengoku. Garp let himself be restrained, Sengoku can’t even get past g3 Luffy. Rayleigh was at a disadvantage as he was worried about the SHs facing Sento and Kuma. Kizaru was so frustrated that he can’t get past the old fart who hasn’t touched a blade in decades that he vented out on 500 fodders after the fact.

 

[Gyro]

Zoro’s benchmark is to be the strongest swordsman in history which includes Roger. Am I doing this right?


It has everything to do with power since he wasn’t even afraid of taking on Luffy with just half of his crew back in Winner’s Island. And Rayleigh only said he’d lose because of old age, this comfortably puts his prime self above Teach.

You also have no idea how strong any of them were including Garp, Sengoku and Rayleigh.

He does have better feats and portrayal than Sengoku. Garp let himself be restrained, Sengoku can’t even get past g3 Luffy. Rayleigh was at a disadvantage as he was worried about the SHs facing Sento and Kuma. Kizaru was so frustrated that he can’t get past the old fart who hasn’t touched a blade in decades that he vented out on 500 fodders.

So, if Rayleigh showed up in front of Shanks, Kaido, or Big Mom, would they have reacted the same way?

Claiming that Garp let himself be restrained is baseless headcanon. Similarly, saying that Rayleigh was panting after two minutes because he was worried about the Straw Hats is nonsensical. What does being worried have to do with panting from exhaustion?

 

[silverfire]

Now it's the time for you to join the hype train before it's too late and you start coping

When we last saw him during Egghead arc :

• Koby became top Vet level with arguably low top tier AP/DC
• Since he's gonna train more, when we'll see him in Beehive arc, he'll be High high tier and will get CoC as powerup and become inbetweener or low top tier

By the time we reach Laugh Tale arc or final war, Kony will be admiral level and replace Kizaru ! .

Look at how Tama grew in just a month of training

@ZenZu @SkySanji @Tyki_Mikk

Koby is easily one of my least favorite characters and I strongly dislike his arc. But I won’t deny that this is likely, the power level for sure. It was in the stars as soon as he demonstrated strong coo in the hospital.

 

[park_min young]

So, if Rayleigh showed up in front of Shanks, Kaido, or Big Mom, would they have reacted the same way?

Claiming that Garp let himself be restrained is baseless headcanon. Similarly, saying that Rayleigh was panting after two minutes because he was worried about the Straw Hats is nonsensical. What does being worried have to do with panting from exhaustion?

No but does that change how Teach views Rayleigh in comparison to himself? Teach wasn’t afraid of taking on Luffy who just defeated Kaido.
It tells you he wasn’t even fully focused on Kizaru, Sengoku’s shockwaves couldn’t even knock out Stronger. Like what feats are you talking about that puts him above Rayleigh?

 

[MonsterKaido]

No but does that change how Teach views Rayleigh in comparison to himself? Teach wasn’t afraid of taking on Luffy who just defeated Kaido.
It tells you he wasn’t even fully focused on Kizaru, Sengoku’s shockwaves couldn’t even knock out Stronger. Like what feats are you talking about that puts him above Rayleigh?

Teach even ran from CP0 though. Not saying its not hype for ray but teach has shown to be very cowardly.

 

[Dragon777]

Zoro’s benchmark is to be the strongest swordsman in history which includes Roger. Am I doing this right?

Not really.

Zoro said maybe one time something like that, but then said again (and again and again) that he wants to be the World strongest swordsman. Same as Mihawk title (no wonder he Is his final adversary), that obv. desn't include Roger.

He even said It again during the fight with King.

 

[Gyro]

No but does that change how Teach views Rayleigh in comparison to himself? Teach wasn’t afraid of taking on Luffy who just defeated Kaido.
It tells you he wasn’t even fully focused on Kizaru, Sengoku’s shockwaves couldn’t even knock out Stronger. Like what feats are you talking about that puts him above Rayleigh?

Exactly, as I said, it’s related to his character, not his power level. Otherwise, his fellow Yonko would have reacted the same way.

Again, even if Rayleigh was worried, how does that affect his stamina after just a couple of minutes? Worrying doesn’t suddenly make someone physically exhausted.

As I mentioned, Sengoku restraining a bloodlusted Garp with one hand is a much better feat than Rayleigh panting after a couple of minutes of fighting.

You're just being stubborn for the sake of it.

 

[park_min young]

Teach even ran from CP0 though. Not saying its not hype for ray but teach has shown to be very cowardly.

He did after already destroyong the revo’s place iirc, not the same thing at all. CP0 was just not worth his time after that, the difference is we saw howRay put the fear of god in Teach.

 

[MonsterKaido]

He did after already destroyong the revo’s place iirc, not the same thing at all. CP0 was just not worth his time after that, the difference is we saw howRay put the fear of god in Teach.

But revos have nothing to do with CP0 though. It shouldn't be that hard for BBPs to deal with CP0 especially at ocean.

BB didn't want to engage RHPs , Akainu , CP0 and then ray. He has a history of backing down.

 

[park_min young]

As I mentioned, Sengoku restraining a bloodlusted Garp with one hand is a much better feat than Rayleigh panting after a couple of minutes of fighting.
.

No it isn’t, the fuck?? Rayleigh was in a full-on combat situation
Did you see Garp actually try to go out there?? Garp was casually walking away and even commented that Sengoku better hold him tight, it was all just talk. If he really wanted to then he would have blitzed in there.

But revos have nothing to do with CP0 though. It shouldn't be that hard for BBPs to deal with CP0 especially at ocean.

BB didn't want to engage RHPs , Akainu , CP0 and then ray. He has a history of backing down.

How it was presented is the issue, we literally saw the fear on Teach and how he obeyed Ray’s demands like a puppy.

CP0 was an annoyance unless you want to argue that Teach would actually be afraid of them like how he was against Akainu and Ray lol

Speaking of Teach, he wasn’t afraid of fighting both Garp and Sengoku. He even taunted them lmfaooo