Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

[soupongo]

Notice how as soon as Luffy states how excited he is to see Saint Shanks, Zoro chides Luffy saying this is why Luffy easy to manipulate. Lol

Oda can’t spoon feed this to you guys any harder.

Oda would not have Loki call Saint Shanks a coward for no reason. Oda is introducing the idea to both Luffy and the reader that Saint Shanks is not who we think he is. If Oda didn’t want to introduce this idea, he never would have had Loki say it.

Then Saint Shanks literally gets summoned by a fucking demonic circle and this fandom fucking thinks it’s a clone or an identical twin


Then Oda sets up the idea that Loki is actually a good guy through his conversation with Mosa.

And now Oda deliberately has Zoro chide Luffy for being easy to manipulate when Luffy gets excited to see Saint Shanks.

My guys. How long are you going to pretend to be retarded? Oda is literally setting up the subversion of Saint Shanks being a Holy Knight lmfao. I mean what do yall think is going to happen?

Loki called Saint Shanks a coward for no reason and actually Saint Shanks isn’t a fucking coward at all?


Saint Shanks is actually an identical triplet and Loki was just confused because Saint Saint Shanks’ triplets were actually the cowards all along?


Zoro sets up Luffy’s idolization of Saint Shanks as making him easy to manipulate, but just fucking kidding because the triplet was evil all along and Luffy’s weird ass attraction to a guy he knew for 20 minutes is completely fine, actually?


I don’t know how to be nice in explaining this to you guys lmfao. My little munchkins, Evil Saint Shanks is being reinforced with literally every passing chapter. Why do you guys think Oda is setting up this idea that Saint Shanks isn’t who Luffy thinks he is just to reveal it was a fucking twin all along? What narrative purpose would that serve?


Saint Shanks being a triplet would be so fucking pointless I can’t believe this shit has gained any traction at all lmfao. Repent
@EmperorKinyagi @MonsterKaido @Shiroyru @comrade @Seraphoenix

Also, Oda made it clear Whitebeard is a good guy. He created a new hope for Fishmen and Human relations. He also gave Ace a home when he felt like he had no place in the world and should have died. So why did these two die? It´s simple, Oda didn´t want Luffy to fight Whitebeard and Ace because they are good. Simple as. Luffy said at the start of Punk Hazard that he does want to fight Shanks.

 

[Roo]

So was kids actions justified?

Ironically more than the giants considering the fleet were begging for a fight right after this panel and the kid pirates had already surrendered

 

[MarineHQ]

One Piece will end with alien precursors of Devil Fruit and Haki who brought these resources to Earth and who are ancestors of the D.

@TheAncientCenturion doesn't accept Otsutsuki's as canon in the Naruto verse ?
Fine! Oda will make them canon in OP.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Same was said on egghead, whiles sanji wss blocking lazer beams from an admiral your boy was going extreme diff with rob gucci . Anyways, i live to see oda body yall once again lol

*Lanji was neg diffed by everyone, ran from base Lucci leaving Stussy to die, Vegapunk's boots merchant and his strongest attack was compared to one of Franky's punches, IJ does absolutely 0 against anyone above vet level
FTFY

 

[nik87]

Imu just has the Devil fruit of the original destroyer of the world.

Well, the original destroyer is likely coming back so Imu wont even be that lucky...

agree, nik-sama, mihawk caused the first destruction of the world a thousand years ago.

Well, it is certainly funny but imagine if it's true...

If IMU isn't final boss, who is then?
Tot Musica?

Aint that the million dollar question?

While I was saying that the world was far more Ancient than Imu's era, people were looking at me like I fell from the moon...
It is the last chance to accept this possibility, you cannot deny it anymore after this info.

An ancient evil that precedes Imu...

Could've been the source of inspiration for Xebec.

Well, Xebec is a strange one. >preserved for the future line from Impel Down lingers around ever since we made that connection.
However, Blackbeard is likely inheriting all that Xebec wished for.
That Ancient Evil could possibly be the 3rd soul inside Blakcbeard's body! If that Ancient Evil isn't taking stage itself, that is...
And there is also the pending 3rd Devil Fruit for Blackbeard that could be the ability of that same ancient entity...

Well, ever since it was revealed that Nika and Joyboy are both different people, I was also having some doubts about Imu being the primal evil and now with this reveal, I'm sure there is also a dark god whom Imu got his powers from.

I am glad you ended up on my side and it didn't take 2 years this time.
That aside, Imu never made much sense to me as the final villain, especially after recent showings...

Could be the Lunarians the fomer Gods who lived on top of the Red Line. They created the Red Line that only allow them to live there because they can survive in harsh environment. They might also the one that built the Pangaea Castle, it is a french type design and kinda fit with King's white shirt underneath the leather suit.
The red line is the first destruction, the grand line is second one. The grand line is the cross section of the red line. So there might be a third one where it will cross the red and grand line to complete the 3 axes.

You just gave me an idea...
The annihilation of Lunarians may have taken place during the 1st destruction of the world and the current WG has had nothing to do with it. The Red Line and Grand Line may be a result of those 2 destructions, yes but there is also a conflict in timeline...
The choice of base being top of the Red Line still sounds to me as something done by those who fear water and the rumored Sea God.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ironically more than the giants considering the fleet were begging for a fight right after this panel and the kid pirates had already surrendered

The fleet were actively retreating on Shanks’ orders when Kidd attacked them, so again, was Kid justified?

 

[JoNdule]

Void Century feels like it got powercliffted by Ancient history LOL

Why is Oda adding stuff? Aren't we in final saga lol?

The more we learn, the more confused I gets

Oda adds more mystery than answers

 

[Guymieux]

Same was said on egghead, whiles sanji wss blocking lazer beams from an admiral your boy was going extreme diff with rob gucci . Anyways, i live to see oda body yall once again lol

Zoro was clashing with an elder matching Coc Sanji kicked one laser beam due to his daddy’s genetics and didn’t do shit all arc . wtf are you smoking . He’s irrelevant

 

[D. Plant]

Imu maybe much much older entity. He maybe responsible for destruction of the world 2 times one being void century.

It could be or Imu was the Jesus borned from the first destruction and bearing an Initial like the will of D. When the time comes, Imu killed the Lunarians and ascend to the throne.

 

[Roo]

The fleet were actively retreating on Shanks’ orders when Kidd attacked them, so again, was Kid justified?

Show the panel of them actually retreating just like I showed the panel of them shooting and then you’ll have a point

 

[JoNdule]

Loki literally doesn't recognize that Holy Knight as Shanks despite hating Shanks and wanting revenge. It's obvious Oda is trolling you guys by only showing one side of this Holy Knight's face. The left side of his face is probably also modified in some form or simply grotesque, hence no giant, including Loki when looking at his face saw resemblance with Shanks.

And obviously Loki is mad at Shanks after being folded. Lol

If Shanks defeated Loki easily, Loki wouldn't be speaking like he does

 

[MonsterKaido]

Original devil = Morgoth ; nika = Fingolfin

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Loki is able to sense people's presence. Luffy could sense Shanks' Haki being familiar to him. And the holy knight's voice didn't have any resemblance to Loki either. It's clear you are being baited. Lol.

Luffy could only feel Saint Saint Shanks’ Haki when Saint Shanks was using it. Saint Shanks is far too weak to be sensed with CoO like say, Kizaru.

My guy, explain to me the narrative purpose behind Saint Shanks having an evil twin. I challenge you.

Explain to me the point of having Loki call Saint Shanks a coward but just kidding, Saint Shanks is not a coward actually. That would be like Oda calling Kaido a comedian but just kidding Kaido is not a comedian, actually.

Explain to me why Oda would give Saint Shanks an identical evil twin but provide no explanation as to why he was doing this lmfao. What would be the point, exactly? Does Shanks have to fight and defeat his evil twin at EOS to prove that he is something most OP fans never thought he was anyway? Lol

What would be the point of Zoro saying Luffy was easy to manipulate in the same arc where the evil Saint Shanks twin is running around if, just kidding! Luffy isn’t easy to manipulate at all, actually.

What’s the point dude lmfao. It’s funny how even the people who think this is an evil twin acknowledge the story would be much better if Saint Shanks was actually evil and if it wasn’t a twin lmfao

 

[soupongo]

The fleet were actively retreating on Shanks’ orders when Kidd attacked them, so again, was Kid justified?

They retreated so Shanks could fight Kidd. And then he did, he did what he wanted to do. Kidd is irrelevent, because what happened was they ignored the fodder on Kidds crew surrendering.

 

[ElderOnitar]

Imu is the Sauron to the Sea Devil's Melkor, @nik87 .

 

[sanzolu]

Zoro was clashing with an elder matching Coc Sanji kicked one laser beam due to his daddy’s genetics and didn’t do shit all arc . wtf are you smoking . He’s irrelevant

Is funny how they start crying lol

 

[Lor D. Coast]

The 2 kid fans in here are gonna lose it when Pranks does a reverse Divine departure and Zoro swats that shit away and saves a stunned Luffy.

 

[kekaro]

If Shanks defeated Loki easily, Loki wouldn't be speaking like he does

Facts
Thats why Chad Krieg was not 1 inch intimated by el painter

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Show the panel of them actually retreating just like I showed the panel of them shooting and then you’ll have a point

Shanks ordered them to leave, they then agreed saying that shanks is the only reason they’re all still alive.

So either you think they were disobeying shanks order despite them following him like a god, or kid did exactly what you are insulting the giants over.

 

[JoNdule]

God Valley destroyed because of False joyboy (roger) & false imu (Xebec)

Nika & First Imu destroyed the world at the time
Joyboy & Imu did the same in the void century
Luffy & current imu will do the same soon