Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

[Franz]

And that Oda improvised again
When this guy talked to the Five Elders they didn't need a new member
But now with Garling gone they need someone powerful
This storyline doesn't make sense to me that after 6 years they'll remember there's a guy named Loki

If that's the reason, maybe it's all a lie, as mentioned.

 

[MonsterKaido]

The wolf foreshadows loki's mythical zoan of fenrir

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

It's very stupid that HKs are literally battling using their abilities and nobody is sensing them.
COO gotta be the most inconsistent ability in the series since it works solely when the plot is asking for it

Have you ever thought about how it makes 0 sense that Imu’s existence is a secret?

Issho literally had island wide COO to where he can focus on only lifting rubble (possibly much further if he senses meteors).

But you’re telling me Imu full on transformed at the reverie but Issho couldn’t feel a thing?

Makes literally no sense

 

[moreha9685]

Oden conquered the wild areas of Wano as a kid.
Loki conquered the underworld of Elbaf as a kid.
$5 say Joy Boy conquered the dangerous seas of the world as a kid.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Like anyone with COO at the reverie should know Imu exists

 

[Redboy776]

It would ruin Imu's image way too much if Usopp straight up beats her himself but I have been supporting the idea that Usopp will play a crucial role against Imu. My theory was that Imu is a god of fear and feeds off of it like Moriah feeds on shadows or Big Mom feeds on shadows, all of them growing stronger from it...
Basically, as long as there are people on the battlefield who fear Imu, her powers are near infinite and if Usopp wills into existence the embodiment of Bravery, he could end up with ability like superior version Belo Betty's power, boosting the morale of the troops and people would stop fearing Imu, bringing her down to her actual power level.
You do have a point with Usopp being the one who takes out those with broken hax powers and they happen to be female characters...


I thought about this thing yesterday, if Zoro and Loki clash, Loki might overpower him with the hammer, if he doesn't use aCoC.
Even with aCoC, Loki's hammer might not be a thing one approaches by blocking...
The options are certainly interesting in the Underworld.


Pretty much, Pranks exist to do things that Oda doesn't wanna do to Shanks.
They are probably around the same power level with same type of abilities and combat style.
So, portrayal-wise, whoever beats Pranks can be considered stronger than Shanks as well.

Also, I doubt Luffy vs Pranks, the man is a swordsman after all. I simply cant picture Luffy beating a swordsman.
Unless Pranks forgets that he is a swordsman in Luffy's presence.
I think Pranks will WIFI-diff Luffy, making use of the Luffy's naivety and being off guard when he sees Shanks-like figure.
That is if Zoro doesn't step in to protect him, which in this case I would forgive Zori for not doing.
Zoro vs Pranks is more likely, IMO while Luffy will end up facing Loki, when he wakes up from the WIFI-diff...

Some think G5 is the greatest power but Original Nika is for team swordsman.

Original nika "Life is rough when G5 run out, so I always carry that beloved sword with me the father of all supreme blades".

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Oda is the only writer who purposely makes one of the most important abilities to be inconsistent

If he still wanted to write plots where characters infiltrate places he shouldn't have introduced that ability to begin with, or make it much rarer.
One important point of Skypea is that COO allowed Enel to notice any intruder.

 

[Dragon777]

Have you ever thought about how it makes 0 sense that Imu’s existence is a secret?

Issho literally had island wide COO to where he can focus on only lifting rubble (possibly much further if he senses meteors).

But you’re telling me Imu full on transformed at the reverie but Issho couldn’t feel a thing?

Makes literally no sense

This.

And I have been saying It made 0 sense Fuji not "sensing" the Revos back when we didn't know that he sided with them in Marijoa.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

If he still wanted to write plots where characters infiltrate places he shouldn't have introduced that ability to begin with, or make it much rarer.
One important point of Skypea is that COO allowed Enel to notice any intruder.

The weirdest part to me is that we got a line in Zou about minks suppressing their presence but it has literally never been elaborated on

 

[Dragon777]

If he still wanted to write plots where characters infiltrate places he shouldn't have introduced that ability to begin with, or make it much rarer.
One important point of Skypea is that COO allowed Enel to notice any intruder.

Or introduce some counter ability like, idk, zetsu in HxH.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The weirdest part to me is that we got a line in Zou about minks surprising their presence but it has literally never been elaborated on

Oda made haki needlessly confusing and unclear even though the abilities in themselves are simple.
DBZ's KI is simple and easy to understand.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Look how hard everyone reacted to Saturn showing up on Egghead.

All 5 Gorosei AND Imu transformed at the reverie but even people with very advanced COO (Issho is the most glaring since we’ve literally seen him sense everyone on an island) couldn’t detect anything.

So either there has to be some ability to suppress presence or Oda is cooked

 

[Redboy776]

Haki clash ≠ regulars clash or else Shanks wouldn't get hyped for matching Whitebeard Haki.

Only zoro got that haki clash with an Elder not even nika had an haki clash with Warcury.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

TOC is out.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Oda made haki needlessly confusing and unclear even though the abilities in themselves are simple.
DBZ's KI is simple and easy to understand.

I think Oda wants/wanted there to be a way to hide from COO but realized invisible characters like Shiryu and Queen would be too broken and doesn’t want to commit.

 

[Dragon777]

Look how hard everyone reacted to Saturn showing up on Egghead.

All 5 Gorosei AND Imu transformed at the reverie but even people with very advanced COO (Issho is the most glaring since we’ve literally seen him sense everyone on an island) couldn’t detect anything.

So either there has to be some ability to suppress presence or Oda is cooked

Unfortunately, he simply doesn't care.

With CoO actually working, 90% of the plot would go up in smoke.

 

[moreha9685]

"Hey, you, comrade of mine, whom I've been traveling with for this mission, yet for some reason I have never talked to about the mission's contents, tell me now, for all the readers to hear, what intel do we have on this Loki fellow so well known for his dangerousness, yet so unknown at this moment to me due to that teleportation amnesia you know I do happen to suffer from whenever the plot demands it."

Cue exposition.

Followed by Oda using the oldest trope in the book to show that a character is truly LE EVIL!

 

[JoNdule]

Look how hard everyone reacted to Saturn showing up on Egghead.

All 5 Gorosei AND Imu transformed at the reverie but even people with very advanced COO (Issho is the most glaring since we’ve literally seen him sense everyone on an island) couldn’t detect anything.

So either there has to be some ability to suppress presence or Oda is cooked

Imu is a mink

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

The scabbards sneaking up on Kaido is so fucking funny in retrospect

Kaido literally has FUTURE SIGHT what was he doing LMAO

 

[moreha9685]

Imu is a mink

He sure is a pussycat for hiding for 800 years.