Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

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What? that's your analogy :
Deskainu killed ace > Kaido didn't kill Post WCI Luffy

So Shiryu heavily injured Garp > Midkiji who didn't wound Garp heavily
Yes, so whom got killed by Shiryu in the first place? Do you not see that huge spiked ice around Garp's body when he's just laying there, laughing before he got frozen?

Yep, Akainu killed Ace > Shiryu heavily injured Garp > Kuzan who didn't wound Garp heavily > Kaido needing ACoC TB to KO YC Luffy (because he couldn't use FS due to being too angry).

Did I mention any seacuffs? i said she didn't use adv CoC and her DF, you seem to hallucinate or something
Then you relied on COMPLETE headcanon because there is no way for you to know if Yamato used any techniques against Ace in the first place. Plus, she was thinking highly of Ace, so that proves that Ace was definitely not some small fry in comparison to Yamato.

Jimbei to Luffy :
I hope I can be a bit of help on Land

+ Jimbei carrying Luffy = deadweight

You :
excuses

While the panels you posted have all these things which is funny
So how much is Jinbei nerfed on land?
You realise he often fights on land, right? When was he truly fighting underwater? It was in WCI when Big Mom and her entire crew couldn't even touch him. So choose wisely if you use Landbe or Waterbe, lol.

So I'm gonna use Jinbei what he's shown for the majority of the panels instead of relying on other excuses to downplay his power.

Jimbei was pushed to upper mid diff and needed to use his Ougi Technique and that wouldn't mean he was Jack level on Land since there's no proof of that + carrying a dead weight.

1 HP braindead, tortured Kuma > Landbei carrying a dead weight on one hand
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Landbe was pushed to mid diff when he wasn't at 100%. It quickly changed when Who's Who was being a racist to him and Jinbei decided to use his next level hardening, then cooked his ass. Don't kid yourself, Land Jinbei would easily match Jack as well or do you think Who's Who was that weak? He was compared to Lucci as a prodigy.

Sure, a 1 HP braindead, tortured Warlord is stronger than the Fishman Warlord on land whilst carrying Luffy, lol.
 
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As much as it's fun to make fun of Mihawk and downplay him, I still have him very high on the list when it comes to power level.

But seeing swordstans like Fenaker for example getting easily triggered by any Mihawk downplay or any jokes about Mihawk is funny to see.

These guys really can't handle any criticism or jokes about Mihawk or even Zoro.
Oh, I definitely have him high there.
I also have Kaido very high. Don't mind my posts about Kaido failing to kill this and that character. It's meant to show the hypocrisy and stupidity of hopeless haters.
 
i supported you in your lightning haki color debates. I stood behind you in your Bougya era. But this, i cannot abide.

We have King a yc1 in full bdsm gear

We have queen a yc2 making big holes in himself and shooting his snake out of the hole

We have Smoothie a yc3 in what is basically a panty

Lolden literally laughed and danced like a retard in his underwear for 5 years

sanji a yc4 was literally wearing a dress and most likely a panty under it for 2 years

we have canonically seen big meme's panties

What more evidence do you need?

Gunko is yc1+++
Lol.. Well i appreciate the support for all this time..

I don't mind if she's YC3 or above.. The optics are not so great cause now she just look like a fan service character..
At least Smoothie's outfit resemble a one piece swimsuit, it's somewhat classy..

I don't recall Big Mom's panties and don't want to..

Maybe it's like Vergo and she forgot to wear her pants or something..

Gunko is probably a similar case to Kalifa in cp9, one of the weakest members in the group, she has little chance of being stronger than Jack.
What does that say about Pranks then, since they are a duo..
 
"An improved feat" of Squardo? By killing someone actually? lol
Yes, an improved feat of squardo would be killing him since you said both Squardo and Shiryu's feat are just wounding heavily feat.
Didn't you make shiryu feat on the level of squardo feat
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Dude, you still started the whole point, lol. Are you that slow?
It doesn't matter if someone responded to your post since you were the one who brought up the comparison in the first place. I failed hard to prove it, that's why you came up with Shiryu instead when I did prove you wrong, lol.
You couldn't prove shit that's why you switched to Mihawk and then you brought an improved squardo feats to compare them to direct confrontations which where Character scale out strength wise.
It's funny how you called Shiryu feat a squardo yet Deskainu did the same thing albeit not on purpose but Garp and Ace threw themselves to save others, would that happen in direct confrontations? :risicheck:
Yes, triggered.
That's why you suddenly come up with trash responses by stating you embarrassed me in a discussion - fanfiction - and how I'm constantly derailing the topic, although I started giving a correct response to your nonsensical post.
Then you suddenly started a trash analogy about Shiryu whilst completely missing my whole point. Thanks for confirming what I've stated so far, lol. And yes, it's PIS, just like how it is PIS that Kinemon still survived such a blow.
To make things worse, you even admitted you don't give a single shit to that anti feat and instead, tried to focus on Kaido's pro feat again, as if it changes how Kaido failed to kill someone who's weaker than both Land Jinbei, Luffy and 1 HP Kuma, lol.
All you did is building excuses over the other started with Oda wanted to PIS which isn't the way to scale, we scale from direct confrontations and we have both characters starting going all out since they used their signature attacks YET one failed and another succeeded which just showed how the gap between in which you trynna creating excuses around to feel safe about your agenda of Deskainu > Kaido fallen hard since in direct feats his ass is weak.
After TWO very high levelled ACoC Thunder Bellow Baguas to his head!
If Akainu hits Luffy with ONE Meigo to his entire head, he's gone, lol. That's why Akainu has the most offensive power when it comes to DFs. Dude connects and melts some limps apart.
Show us Akainu hitting Post WCI Luffy with this Meigo? didn't this clown fail at that against a 1 HP, brain dead and tortured Kuma whose reactions speed dropped enormously? AND you talk about hitting Luffy? LMAO
Do you think Luffy is that much of a deadweight that he's nerfing Land Jinbei like that? Plus, Akainu told Jinbei even beforehand that it's futile whatever he tries to do against Akainu because Jinbei knows how strong he is. Jinbei STILL tried to attack Akainu with his Fishman Karate, Akainu dodged it and critically injured Jinbei. If he was aiming to his heart, Jinbei would be the next one going down.

Sure, now Land Jinbe is nerfed beyond recognition. Bruh, you're the definition of making up shit, lol.
Carrying a deadweight to protect isn't a nerf?
Wasn't Law crying about Kidd being a deadweight that nerfed him since he needed to protect him continuously?

Deskainu said and so what? Pizzalu said he would go to stop both Kaido and Big Mom yet he was just waffling lmao, He should prove this strength with actions but not against a Landbei who was carrying deadweight.
I like how admirals wankers give us list of excuses for their favorites but they don't respect it when other characters have it against them
I have yet to see that imaginary part when you apparently "embarrassed me so hard", I started changing topic from Kaido to Mihawk. Must be happening in your lala world again...
Once again, nothing but fanfiction. If I was changing the topic from Kaido to Mihawk, I wouldn't even address ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS in the first place. Yet I'm responding to your moronic "B-But 1 HP Kuma", "B-But Kaido beat YC Luffy" responses. Bringing up Mihawk was ONE analogy to show how stupid your logic is - you didn't like that response and that's why you started shitting in your pants whilst hyperventilating, lol. Don't blame me for your failure buddy.

Yes, and unlike Shiryu, he managed to kill someone with that. The difference is, Shiryu did a sneak attack like Squardo, both injured Old Legends in similar sense but Akainu went on and critically injured Whitebeard in a 1vs1 confrontation after he got a heart attack from being pushed like that.
Did Shiryu do that in a direct confrontation?
Critically injured Whitebeard whose Haki was ass and had a heart attacks before ?

It's funny since Deskainu himself said Kuma is a dead man and was tortured and heavily injured in marijeoise yet he failed at finishing him off :


You are coping hard lmao, Shiryu's feat is the same as Akainu's feat, they just hit someone who used their body as a shield to save another one, this just shows the value of the feat you trynna inserting here to make deskainu relevant yet you failed since all clear feats with no debate are shown against Kuma and against Luffy where no excuses can be brought out but Deskainu failed and Kaido succeeded.
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