Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

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But Imu had more weight as a final villain since the WG is carrying 800+ years of history at their back.

But now we've learned the void century isn't the first "void century".

So if Teach inherited the God of Destruction's will, that means he is carrying with him more than that of Imu and the WG. This gives Teach the "weight" needed to be the final villain.
Luffy and the SH aside from Robin generally don´t even care about the 800 years of history or whatever the WG is carrying on their back. The Roger pirates found out and returned to their lives as usual, not losing any sleep or thinking about Imu much at all. Imu barely controls anything in the universe, as basically everyone working for the WG is doing some type of treason behind his back. Meanwhile Blackbeard has special heritage according to the Gorosei themselves, has been warned about by Shanks himself since w7, started marineford, betrayed his OWN crew, captured Ace, is the only human with 2 devil fruits, recruited the first admiral we meet in the series and has intel on 2 different ancient weapons. He´s also named after the most famous pirate irl
 
Wrong, wrong and wrong

Oden was already exhausted fighting a war where they were outnumbered 100:1. You can see him banged up before he even fought Kaidou AND he would have dealt the finishing blow if it wasn’t for the hag.

Kaidou was too afraid to even fight them fairly, he had to make Oden dance for 5 years to amass the numbers advantage.
You're talking nonsense
Both Oden & Kaido were bandaged days after

If he wanted to fight, he can break free and do it
Kaido got nothing to lose, he already won the war and got the country.

"Kaido was too afraid " yet the same kaido fought Enraged Oden for hours in the castle

It was Orochi who made the proposition to Oden, not Kaido

Kaido didn't WANT ODEN & HYOU to team up because it'll be a pain to handle not because he'll lose.
At no point Kaido ever thought he'd lose against Oden 1v1 or in a war.

Btw ODEN knew his only chance to win was to kill sleepy drunk kaido
But it is kaido who's afraid cause Orochi made a deal with Iden
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He was afraid. Why do you think he tricked Oden into not fighting him for 5 years, lmfao? He could have rematched him but he didn´t. He can complain about it later on, but Kaido was satisfied with someone tricking Oden and then detaining him afterwards
Go sleep bot

I don't have time for you
 
You're talking nonsense
Both Oden & Kaido were bandaged days after

If he wanted to fight, he can break free and do it
Kaido got nothing to lose, he already won the war and got the country.

"Kaido was too afraid " yet the same kaido fought Enraged Oden for hours in the castle

It was Orochi who made the proposition to Oden, not Kaido

Kaido didn't WANT ODEN & HYOU to team up because it'll be a pain to handle not because he'll lose.
At no point Kaido ever thought he'd lose against Oden 1v1 or in a war.
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Go sleep bot

I don't have time for you
Kaidou’s a blood warrior who’s looking for a battle to kill him yet he was fine tricking Oden. He contradicts himself by ever going along Orocohi’s plan. After getting scarred, he could have let Oden go and recover then ask for a rematch, but no. He knows he might lose lol

His regret is seen even in his fight with Luffy
 
But Imu had more weight as a final villain since the WG is carrying 800+ years of history at their back.

But now we've learned the void century isn't the first "void century".

So if Teach inherited the God of Destruction's will, that means he is carrying with him more than that of Imu and the WG. This gives Teach the "weight" needed to be the final villain.
Teach is always rising in power, while WG is declining since Alabasta. For me Teach is the right final villain
 
Luffy and the SH aside from Robin generally don´t even care about the 800 years of history or whatever the WG is carrying on their back. The Roger pirates found out and returned to their lives as usual, not losing any sleep or thinking about Imu much at all. Imu barely controls anything in the universe, as basically everyone working for the WG is doing some type of treason behind his back. Meanwhile Blackbeard has special heritage according to the Gorosei themselves, has been warned about by Shanks himself since w7, started marineford, betrayed his OWN crew, captured Ace, is the only human with 2 devil fruits, recruited the first admiral we meet in the series and has intel on 2 different ancient weapons. He´s also named after the most famous pirate irl
Teach is always rising in power, while WG is declining since Alabasta. For me Teach is the right final villain
What if Luffy fights Blackbeard and Nika fights Imu?
 
You're talking nonsense
Both Oden & Kaido were bandaged days after

If he wanted to fight, he can break free and do it
Kaido got nothing to lose, he already won the war and got the country.

"Kaido was too afraid " yet the same kaido fought Enraged Oden for hours in the castle

It was Orochi who made the proposition to Oden, not Kaido

Kaido didn't WANT ODEN & HYOU to team up because it'll be a pain to handle not because he'll lose.
At no point Kaido ever thought he'd lose against Oden 1v1 or in a war.
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Go sleep bot

I don't have time for you
The idea behind this is crazy. Yes Orochi is running everything behind Kaidos back. Oh wait, not at all and Orochi is just his puppet. Kaido himself says that he sensed he was at a disadvantage when Oden returned. Kaido then decided to execute Oden who he could have rematched? Why, because he retired from piracy to sell seastone weapons to the WG. Its honestly simple as that
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

Haters will say Jabra isn't Robin's Brother
Third Eye Tribe are said to be able to awaken a power to read Poneglyphs. However, it's not only said it was ONLY Poneglyphs.

The Giants mention Halley/Harley, an ancient language they can't translate.


Gunko has a crazy eye we've never seen before in the series. We know from the Third Eye Tribe that there's some magic in some eyes that allow people to read Poneglyphs; what if Gunko is introduced with this eye this chapter, because her eye lets her read Ancient Texts? Like a magic translator?
 
Kaidou’s a blood warrior who’s looking for a battle to kill him yet he was fine tricking Oden. He contradicts himself by ever going along Orocohi’s plan. After getting scarred, he could have let Oden go and recover then ask for a rematch, but no. He knows he might lose lol

His regret is seen even in his fight with Luffy
Oda just genuinely confused Kaido and Orochis characters somehow. It makes no sense at all for Kaido to act like how he did in that flashback, even going as far to say Oden had none of the ¨old Kozuki dignity¨. Be honest, that makes no sense for him to say. Oda was tired after doing the Roger laughed chapter and wanted to move on to strawhats fighting people and his movie about Shanks having a live streamer daughter or whatever
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What if Luffy fights Blackbeard and Nika fights Imu?
I´m sure someone will put a stop to Imu, but he can´t be the final villain lol. There´s just no way
 
Kaidou’s a blood warrior who’s looking for a battle to kill him yet he was fine tricking Oden. He contradicts himself by ever going along Orocohi’s plan. After getting scarred, he could have let Oden go and recover then ask for a rematch, but no. He knows he might lose lol

His regret is seen even in his fight with Luffy
Kaido has no problem fighting Oden 1v1

Who's telling you Oden will beat kaido 1v1 when he can't do it ?
He only could scar Kaido when he's in the sky flying and looking away.

1v1 both on guard, Oden couldn't do it for hours
So what makes you think he's gonna beat Kaido ?

THERE'S NO POINT TO FIGHT again once the war was won. Kaido got the country's spirits crushed by then.
The only one who had to save his face is Oden for failing.

Funny how kaido being afraid is him amassing power and making sure Hyou and his army doesn't join Oden
But Oden planning to kill sleepy drunk kaido is being fearless
:willight:

Kaido was already getting up when Oden was going for another attack.
Who's to say it will KO him or even land ?

Distracted dragon kaido in the sky --> gets scarred
Distracted Oden --> Gets KOed
 
Well Nika is a god and Emeth said Luffy wasn't Joyboy but just looked like him right in Gear 5 right?
I dont remember he saying isn't joyboy

We still don't know exactly if Nika is literally a god or someone of ancient times that people started to call god

Luffy inhereted the will of Nika, so he is the new Nika. Inhereted will is one of OP main themes
 
Kaidou’s a blood warrior who’s looking for a battle to kill him yet he was fine tricking Oden. He contradicts himself by ever going along Orocohi’s plan. After getting scarred, he could have let Oden go and recover then ask for a rematch, but no. He knows he might lose lol

His regret is seen even in his fight with Luffy
His regret is about the way he won
Not because he was afraid for a rematch

He didn't contradict himself since Oden didn't ask for rematch after the war
And Orochi is his partner who has to force his leadership reign by killing Oden

Talking about him being afraid of Oden
The same guy who's not afraid of Roger, WB, Shanks, linlin
 
His regret is about the way he won
Not because he was afraid for a rematch

He didn't contradict himself since Oden didn't ask for rematch after the war
And Orochi is his partner who has to force his leadership reign by killing Oden

Talking about him being afraid of Oden
The same guy who's not afraid of Roger, WB, Shanks, linlin
He has no reason to regret how he won. Oden didn´t go anywhere. He could have fought him again. He just refused too.
 
I dont remember he saying isn't joyboy

We still don't know exactly if Nika is literally a god or someone of ancient times that people started to call god

Luffy inhereted the will of Nika, so he is the new Nika. Inhereted will is one of OP main themes


In my opinion the conversation implies Luffy isn't Joyboy

And the inherited will is true, but, the alliance would have lost, Luffy passed away, if it wasn't for Nika's powers, that may happen again

And I think Joyboy saying "I will be saving you from the past. Hasn't it always been like that?" with a happy tone and Emeth happily agreeing is very deity like
 
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