Role Madness A Certain Magical Mafia II - Game Thread

[MangoSenpai]

poor pot I hope he's not scum

Yoho, you do understand the situation you find yourself in, right?

If you really truly by whatever miracle turn out to be town, then know that you got in this mess by your own doing.


But I have to ask, why did you pick AM as your counter wagon of all people, after he's revealed himself to be the duellist?
Did you believe yourself in the 'case' on AM you pushed?

I don't know how else to describe your moves other than illogical and nonsensical, to the extent that I am on the verge of starting to be suspicious that you are some sort of a Jester.



I think the best you can do, if you are Town now is to leave a legacy preferably accompanied by your reason for their placement, etc.
Not saying to wrrite an essay, but at the very least a sentence or two, just to give a general gist.
And I'll allow you to write Naomi, but I won't take it seriously.



P.S I've been awake for too long, so I'm starting to get a bit delirious - so iif I'm not completely cognescent, that's why.

P.P.S I'll go to sleep now. Good night.

 

[Yoho]

Yoho, you do understand the situation you find yourself in, right?

If you really truly by whatever miracle turn out to be town, then know that you got in this mess by your own doing.


But I have to ask, why did you pick AM as your counter wagon of all people, after he's revealed himself to be the duellist?
Did you believe yourself in the 'case' on AM you pushed?

I don't know how else to describe your moves other than illogical and nonsensical, to the extent that I am on the verge of starting to be suspicious that you are some sort of a Jester.



I think the best you can do, if you are Town now is to leave a legacy preferably accompanied by your reason for their placement, etc.
Not saying to wrrite an essay, but at the very least a sentence or two, just to give a general gist.
And I'll allow you to write Naomi, but I won't take it seriously.



P.S I've been awake for too long, so I'm starting to get a bit delirious - so iif I'm not completely cognescent, that's why.

P.P.S I'll go to sleep now. Good night.

Only person left alive i could at least try to build a case on, I still don't fully trust Naomi but she's mainly town read by the masses and while dueler is usually a town role doesn't necessarily mean it will always be....does it?

 

[Michelle]

I had these quoted already but I let them here to understand my reasons for my pushes today.
It's logical to try to solve Alexis' Poe first since he flipped town and I killed him.

The Vig should kill Naomi.

@MangoSenpai Kill Mr. Reloaded if it's possible.

The answer from the thread and my own research show that these 2 are most probably town.

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That's said, Alexis and Yoho shooot to the top of my list if Charlie is scum....shoot one of those two in that scenario

Alexis over yoho I think

Let me understand you posted these yesterday and now you say it's bad I shot Alexis?

I said to adress Michelle's concern - and I also concluded that there's a very low probablility you're scum.

No use getting hung up on these insignificant details.

Makes sense, thanks for the sanity check

...IN any case, assuming the duel ends in an elimination, we can just let that take out Dr. Watson and lynch someone else.

The duel kills the player who's losing it

Yeah I figured you wouldn't budge on that one

But I am wondering something

Am said he had a way of clearing Watson and then dueled her

But how exactly is that clearing its effectively a second lynch she could very well still be town we don't have definitive proof if she's town or not it was mostly just speculation

Unless the Duel works in a way if she's town then she won't get killed for losing the Duel

The dueler as role is NAI but I like the idea of taking out the first Poe candidate. She will die.

also why was fuji the only one janitor?

we can only speculate about it

I'm trying my absolute hardest😢

Then don't Ate please

@Michelle do me a solid and take out AM

No

I almost wanna give him a TR just for making me laugh

Eh, I guess that's just his personality,

And literally all UwU even did last phase was vote Charlie and ghosted, not getting much info from that slot.

If the Poe starts flipping town like Alexis did then we have to look into the reason of such a vote because sometimes mafia will drop a vote on the outed mate and call it a day.

 

[Yoho]

I had these quoted already but I let them here to understand my reasons for my pushes today.
It's logical to try to solve Alexis' Poe first since he flipped town and I killed him.


The answer from the thread and my own research show that these 2 are most probably town.


Let me understand you posted these yesterday and now you say it's bad I shot Alexis?

Makes sense, thanks for the sanity check

The duel kills the player who's losing it

The dueler as role is NAI but I like the idea of taking out the first Poe candidate. She will die.

we can only speculate about it

Then don't Ate please

No

Eh, I guess that's just his personality,

If the Poe starts flipping town like Alexis did then we have to look into the reason of such a vote because sometimes mafia will drop a vote on the outed mate and call it a day.

Ate?

 

[Michelle]

Good night.

Good night senpai!

Only person left alive i could at least try to build a case on, I still don't fully trust Naomi but she's mainly town read by the masses and while dueler is usually a town role doesn't necessarily mean it will always be....does it?

Do you understand Mango's reasons to town read Naomi?
And depending on Watson's flip we will reevaluate tomorrow everything.
I know you did this Ate of yours as town and as scum so I can't just trust your words.
From what I see everyone wants your head, so your flip will also help the solve even if you flip town.

 

[Michelle]

Ate?

Appeal to emotion

I am used to these terms and I forget not everyone knows them

 

[Michelle]

Soo that double posted and remained on my answering box.

Pretty weird

 

[Michelle]

Soo that double posted and remained on my answering box.

Pretty weird

That's even worse, my double post vanished.

I'll go to work and come back later

 

[Yoho]

Appeal to emotion

I am used to these terms and I forget not everyone knows them

Ahhh, I see I see

 

[Yoho]

Good night senpai!

Do you understand Mango's reasons to town read Naomi?
And depending on Watson's flip we will reevaluate tomorrow everything.
I know you did this Ate of yours as town and as scum so I can't just trust your words.
From what I see everyone wants your head, so your flip will also help the solve even if you flip town.

Something about her blocking someone or something I think if I remember correctly gotta read back

I tend to play the same way no matter what team I'm on tbh 🤔

If my flip helps town then I'm willing to take the bullet

Duel Watson
Lynch Pot
And then you shoot me

That was all 3 of the people in Poe today get taken care of

I'm town but hope my flip provides some information and maybe at least one of us is a hit

 

[Yoho]

Yoho, you do understand the situation you find yourself in, right?

If you really truly by whatever miracle turn out to be town, then know that you got in this mess by your own doing.


But I have to ask, why did you pick AM as your counter wagon of all people, after he's revealed himself to be the duellist?
Did you believe yourself in the 'case' on AM you pushed?

I don't know how else to describe your moves other than illogical and nonsensical, to the extent that I am on the verge of starting to be suspicious that you are some sort of a Jester.



I think the best you can do, if you are Town now is to leave a legacy preferably accompanied by your reason for their placement, etc.
Not saying to wrrite an essay, but at the very least a sentence or two, just to give a general gist.
And I'll allow you to write Naomi, but I won't take it seriously.



P.S I've been awake for too long, so I'm starting to get a bit delirious - so iif I'm not completely cognescent, that's why.

P.P.S I'll go to sleep now. Good night.

Good night

 

[~UwU~]

Vote Duel Alwaysmind

 

[Michelle]

@MangoSenpai do you think the willingness from Flower and Charlie to lynch Yoho at the game start is distancing?

 

[Michelle]

@MangoSenpai do you think the willingness from Flower and Charlie to lynch Yoho at the game start is distancing?

I mean it could be but I wish to talk about it more

 

[MangoSenpai]

@MangoSenpai do you think the willingness from Flower and Charlie to lynch Yoho at the game start is distancing?

I'll admit that their votes on him early is somewhat questionable, but in the bigger picture Yoho was pretty much given a free pass by both Flower and Charlie after he claimed Accelerator.

That coupled with his abysmal play gives me next to no reason in doubting that it was curated from the beginning.

Also now he's asking to get vigged, the all time classic.

I really struggle justifying his slot as town

 

[MangoSenpai]

Vote Duel Alwaysmind

So is this the level of participation to expect from you for the rest of the game?


Also @MUUGEN are you still playing or?

 

[Michelle]

Just to check an idea, game is not bastard and Muugen has to be IC, right?

 

[Stargate18]

I'll admit that their votes on him early is somewhat questionable, but in the bigger picture Yoho was pretty much given a free pass by both Flower and Charlie after he claimed Accelerator.

Yeah, in retrospect the lack of pushback to claiming a main character + scum not targeting that slot was odd.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Players - 22
Lynch - Majority
Phase Times - 72/24
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@Michelle there is no mention of it anywhere, so I will have to assume that it is not bastard

 

[Yoho]

Good morning