Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1137 Spoilers Discussion

[Tyki_Mikk]

I feel the HK is what the CP0 should have been

You can see Guernica dealing with Orochi and Kaido

The HK should have stayed a body guard order / police order for the CD

It is too blurry now

Oda put the CP0 in the toilets and put them aside quite quick

It should be clear from the begin in my opinion, Oda should mentioned the Holy Knight during Dressrosa or so.
People who stay beyond CP0. people who are choosen by CD as strongest CD members.

Like when Teach wanted to face Dragon, it should be Holy Knights+CP0 who clashed with him.
CP0 is at best a high tier group, lot of strong members but don´t play any huge role against top beasts of the new world.
CP0 should just be a back up group who tag along the Holy Knights similar how rearadmirals/viceadmirals tag along Admirals.

In my opinion a Holy Knight should be with Guernica and the others during wano, also showing balls against Orochi and show him to act in his place. Scalingwise it doesn´t make sense, Kaido or not, the WG could crush them anytime.

That is Oda's problem, you have Holy Knights, Gorosei, CP0, entire Navy...
No yonkou can´fight it, even together they would lose in the end.

Holy knight power should be equal to a Yonkou crew, so it is clear that Garling was a high top tier.
I think Shamrock is around low-mid top tier.

 

[Bullet]

Mihawk really fought Jack bounty Shanks and went “damn guess I’m the strongest swordsman in the world”

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Makes sense why he ended the fight in a draw with Vista

 

[AL sama]

I feel the HK is what the CP0 should have been

You can see Guernica dealing with Orochi and Kaido

The HK should have stayed a body guard order / police order for the CD

It is too blurry now

Oda put the CP0 in the toilets and put them aside quite quick

Oda made a meme out of CP0 so he needed to make up for it in some way

 

[Pot Goblin]

Pranks is officially real

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Pranks is officially real

 

[Juanpiz]

Am i only finding arrow power pretty lame

 

[Boiroy]

Yeah maybe you are right, I overrated mihawk including him in the top 10.

Mihawk will always be stronger than Shanks, I hope we get to see something of Mihawk this year
Mihawk n Dragon are only top tiers without named attack as of yet

 

[Buusatan94]

I feel the HK is what the CP0 should have been

You can see Guernica dealing with Orochi and Kaido

The HK should have stayed a body guard order / police order for the CD

It is too blurry now

Oda put the CP0 in the toilets and put them aside quite quick

Don't worry he'll fail to deliver with the HK as well.

 

[RayanOO]

It should be clear from the begin in my opinion, Oda should mentioned the Holy Knight during Dressrosa or so.
People who stay beyond CP0. people who are choosen by CD as strongest CD members.

Like when Teach wanted to face Dragon, it should be Holy Knights+CP0 who clashed with him.
CP0 is at best a high tier group, lot of strong members but don´t play any huge role against top beasts of the new world.
CP0 should just be a back up group who tag along the Holy Knights similar how rearadmirals/viceadmirals tag along Admirals.

In my opinion a Holy Knight should be with Guernica and the others during wano, also showing balls against Orochi and show him to act in his place. Scalingwise it doesn´t make sense, Kaido or not, the WG could crush them anytime.

That is Oda's problem, you have Holy Knights, Gorosei, CP0, entire Navy...
No yonkou can´fight it, even together they would lose in the end.

Holy knight power should be equal to a Yonkou crew, so it is clear that Garling was a high top tier.
I think Shamrock is around low-mid top tier.

CP0 with Figarland family as its head would have worked perfectly fine

 

[Jailer]

My problem with holy knights being pulled out of Oda's ass is their absence in holyland events.

Wapol and Sabo - escaped

Vivi - escaped

Fisher tiger breakout

Didn't bother helping Ryokugyu

Yet they were active clearly during god valley

Conclusion - Oda planned them poorly

 

[Bullet]

It should be clear from the begin in my opinion, Oda should mentioned the Holy Knight during Dressrosa or so.
People who stay beyond CP0. people who are choosen by CD as strongest CD members.

Like when Teach wanted to face Dragon, it should be Holy Knights+CP0 who clashed with him.
CP0 is at best a high tier group, lot of strong members but don´t play any huge role against top beasts of the new world.
CP0 should just be a back up group who tag along the Holy Knights similar how rearadmirals/viceadmirals tag along Admirals.

In my opinion a Holy Knight should be with Guernica and the others during wano, also showing balls against Orochi and show him to act in his place. Scalingwise it doesn´t make sense, Kaido or not, the WG could crush them anytime.

That is Oda's problem, you have Holy Knights, Gorosei, CP0, entire Navy...
No yonkou can´fight it, even together they would lose in the end.

Holy knight power should be equal to a Yonkou crew, so it is clear that Garling was a high top tier.
I think Shamrock is around low-mid top tier.

The Holy knights weren't involved before because they never existed
Oda keeps making enemies stronger and adding shit to up the stakes but kinda ruins the story when you go back to read it
Why not dispatch just one of your 50 super strong dudes to deal with whatever happened at chapter 200 or whatever.

 

[Thaidakar]

Oh man. The amount of spit people on this forum will need to lick back up will be crazy when Oda finally unleashes Mihawk

 

[Saint Wentorno]

My problem with holy knights being pulled out of Oda's ass is their absence in holyland events.

Wapol and Sabo - escaped

Vivi - escaped

Fisher tiger breakout

Didn't bother helping ryokugyu Ryokugyu

Yet they were active clearly during god valley

Conclusion - Oda planned them poorly

This.

Oda's late retcons and asspulls will introduce inconsistencies that will be the downfall of this manga.

 

[Buusatan94]

My problem with holy knights being pulled out of Oda's ass is their absence in holyland events.

Wapol and Sabo - escaped

Vivi - escaped

Fisher tiger breakout

Didn't bother helping ryokugyu Ryokugyu

Yet they were active clearly during god valley

Conclusion - Oda planned them poorly

Don't forget how child Doflamingo was able of escaping Marie-Geoise as well.

 

[Ven437]

My problem with holy knights being pulled out of Oda's ass is their absence in holyland events.

Wapol and Sabo - escaped

Vivi - escaped

Fisher tiger breakout

Didn't bother helping ryokugyu Ryokugyu

Yet they were active clearly during god valley

Conclusion - Oda planned them poorly

This the same guy who wrote BM's flashback as if she went solo to form a pirate crew and out of shape

Then next arc we find out she was part of the strongest crew looking like the most beautiful woman ever before she formed her actual crew

Oda doesn't think the details thoroughly. But HK are the real deal

 

[shadowdancer]

"I will se you at the summit"
Same thing Ace told Goofy at the end of Arabasta... and where is Ace now?

Did Ace had the same status as Mihawk? Because Mihawk words are aligned with the "text box title given by Oda"

and do you expect Mihawk will be defeated by a non-Zoro somebody in the following arcs?

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

CP0 with Figarland family as its head would have worked perfectly fine

Yeah, tagging along with Shamrock would give some form of threat lvl.
I assume there are at least 9Holy Knights, adding over 10-20CP0 members, that is actually a strong force.
Still don´t know why the WG really needs the Shichibukai, having CP0 and Holy knights together with the Navy is enough to deal with any yonkou/pirate.

 

[mly90]

this circus is great

We are glad to entertain

 

[Saint Wentorno]

Frankly, I sometimes wish the story ended in Sabaody with a bad ending of Kizaru wiping the SHs off the map.
It would have been better than the shitshow this manga has turned into.

 

[Jailer]

This.

Oda's late retcons and asspulls will introduce inconsistencies that will be the downfall of this manga.

A cope could be because the red line is so vast the knights are scattered thorought different parts of the red line, maybe they have different fortress at different parts of the red line peaks

Could be one way to explain it since celestial dragons reside at the highest peak while guarding the other peaks sending them away

Then there's those unexplained magic circles