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Kizaru was ready to face Big Mom and Kaidos alliance and casually fought the right hand man of the pirate king. The Holy Knights shit themselves and lock the door when Karasu and Morley are in the holy land. I have no idea how this is even a question
 
Yet they’re asking Loki to join them and have even offered him the role as a CD?
Loki and Elbaf appear to be separate matters to them.

WG doesn't like Elbaf or Wano doing their own things, of course it's a "join us or face annihilation because you don't have human rights", but it appears that they want to also bag a strong warrior while they're on it.
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Umm what, shamrock is shank's identical twin. Essentially the same guy except with two arms. Shamrock >>shanks
By real world logic this wouldn't hold but by One Piece logic it absolutely does.
 
Loki and Elbaf appear to be separate matters to them.

WG doesn't like Elbaf or Wano doing their own things, of course it's a "join us or face annihilation because you don't have human rights", but it appears that they want to also bag a strong warrior while they're on it.
We’ll see, it sounds more like the WG is getting desperate and want to enhance their strength with the legendary army of Elbaf and just like BM believed the way to do it was to win Loki over and have him ascend to the throne
 
We’ll see, it sounds more like the WG is getting desperate and want to enhance their strength with the legendary army of Elbaf and just like BM believed the way to do it was to win Loki over and have him ascend to the throne
The WG are so retarded and behind on intel if so. Loki has been hated by Elbaf for decades lmfao
 
It says “by force”

Also we already know Shanks > Loki >= Elbaf (minus Dorry and Broggy)

The WG can easily clean up current Elbaf with some HKs
Lmao no they can’t, if it was fully by force they’d have no reason to sacrifice the sanctity of the celestial dragon title if they can take the army by force.
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The WG are so retarded and behind on intel if so. Loki has been hated by Elbaf for decades lmfao
Big mom had the same plan 6 years ago.
 
We’ll see, it sounds more like the WG is getting desperate and want to enhance their strength with the legendary army of Elbaf and just like BM believed the way to do it was to win Loki over and have him ascend to the throne
The problem with that is that the HK we know of so far are all CD.

Human or giants kings are below them, they are places their ancestors rejected and left behind. If they wanted him to ascend to the throne and work with them as a country wouldn't they be offering him a deal instead of a HK position, which is very specific?
 
Kizaru was ready to face Big Mom and Kaidos alliance and casually fought the right hand man of the pirate king. The Holy Knights shit themselves and lock the door when Karasu and Morley are in the holy land. I have no idea how this is even a question
The last time we saw Kizaru he was turned into a pancake crying and insulting Clifford.

The holy knights are not going to fight bugs if they can send the visible face of the world government who only take
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The problem with that is that the HK we know of so far are all CD.

Human or giants kings are below them, they are places their ancestors rejected and left behind. If they wanted him to ascend to the throne and work with them as a country wouldn't they be offering him a deal instead of a HK position, which is very specific?
The HK position is probably the only way they could give him the title. Even York was placed as a subordinate of Garling to gain her title.

The Gorosei who see humans and giants as insects are willing to make this man a Celestial Dragon purely just to get their hands on the Army of Elbaf. Clearly they can’t just take it without incredibly heavy losses otherwise
 
The HK position is probably the only way they could give him the title. Even York was placed as a subordinate of Garling to gain her title.

The Gorosei who see humans and giants as insects are willing to make this man a Celestial Dragon purely just to get their hands on the Army of Elbaf. Clearly they can’t just take it without incredibly heavy losses otherwise
Do they?
Wasnt the whole plot point with caramel that she managed to get a Giant into the marines? I rather took that the WG is rather intressted in them
 
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