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Kizaru, Saturn and co were sent to egghead. What did you want the holy knights to do? It’s got nothing to do with them
Nope. Kuma attacked Egghead and the holy knights did nothing. During Egghead we saw the flashback of the reverie, where Sabo easily infiltrates Imu´s throne room, and escapes. When the revolutionaries are causing destruction on the island, the holy knights are nowhere to be found. Only appearing when it comes to killing a fodder celestial. When Vegapunk is about to reveal the WG secrets with the explicit help of Joyboy(Their ancient enemy, who Imu gets on the knees for, they by no means underestimate them), no Gorosei thinks about asking Garling or any of the holy knights for any help at all. When Fujitora openly betrays the WG and frees slaves, Garling and the Holy Knights do not even think of punishing him. All of this is egghead, and entirely consistent with the Holy Knights not being able to stop fisher tiger or Doffy
 
That literally just proves my point lmao. She said "these 3," not "these 4." So Fleet Admiral Sengoku was being excluded from her "Ultimate military force" statement. All that Robin was saying is the 3 Admirals combined are the strongest WG military force at that point in the story. She wasn't saying any Admiral is stronger than any other WG fighter
So what, is akainu not good enough to be part of that power bracket after his promotion?
 
Nope. Kuma attacked Egghead and the holy knights did nothing. During Egghead we saw the flashback of the reverie, where Sabo easily infiltrates Imu´s throne room, and escapes. When the revolutionaries are causing destruction on the island, the holy knights are nowhere to be found. Only appearing when it comes to killing a fodder celestial. When Vegapunk is about to reveal the WG secrets with the explicit help of Joyboy(Their ancient enemy, who Imu gets on the knees for, they by no means underestimate them), no Gorosei thinks about asking Garling or any of the holy knights for any help at all. When Fujitora openly betrays the WG and frees slaves, Garling and the Holy Knights do not even think of punishing him. All of this is egghead, and entirely consistent with the Holy Knights not being able to stop fisher tiger or Doffy
Oda wanted sabo to escape and get back to dragon, a HK being there wouldn’t change that. Hence sabo literally managed to evade imu himself along with all 5 elders. As for egghead island, all the participants were there already, it is what it is. Oda mobilises who he wants, when he wants. There’s so many characters in this manga, I don’t think he entirely even knows what he wants to do with them.
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Who called the admirals the ultimate military force post time skip?
It was stated pre-timeskip. Who’s stated otherwise post timeskip?
 
Oda wanted sabo to escape and get back to dragon, a HK being there wouldn’t change that. Hence sabo literally managed to evade imu himself along with all 5 elders. As for egghead island, all the participants were there already, it is what it is. Oda mobilises who he wants, when he wants. There’s so many characters in this manga, I don’t think he entirely even knows what he wants to do with them.
But why did Sabo leave without even getting injured by any of the HK, or even have to outsmart him? Simple, they are not relevant. And no, the participants were not there already... The other Gorosei all teleported because of Vegapunk. I am sure Oda doesn´t know/care about what to do with the holy knights, but that doesn´t really prove me wrong
 
But why did Sabo leave without even getting injured by any of the HK, or even have to outsmart him? Simple, they are not relevant. And no, the participants were not there already... The other Gorosei all teleported because of Vegapunk. I am sure Oda doesn´t know/care about what to do with the holy knights, but that doesn´t really prove me wrong
By “there” I just mean present in the arc i.e the throne room was in contact with Saturn on panel.
Also I just think you’re being super harsh on the HKs. Imu and the 5 elders let Sabo escape the room whilst carrying a corpse, and Imu is supposed to be this Eos titan. Just because they exist doesn’t mean they have to stamp out every problem in existence. Nobody in one piece is that efficient. And if you can agree that oda doesn’t know what to do with them, there’s even less reason for you to put their every action (or lack thereof) under a microscope.
 
By “there” I just mean present in the arc i.e the throne room was in contact with Saturn on panel.
Also I just think you’re being super harsh on the HKs. Imu and the 5 elders let Sabo escape the room whilst carrying a corpse, and Imu is supposed to be this Eos titan. Just because they exist doesn’t mean they have to stamp out every problem in existence. Nobody in one piece is that efficient. And if you can agree that oda doesn’t know what to do with them, there’s even less reason for you to put their every action (or lack thereof) under a microscope.
I mean the Gorosei and Imu are jobbers too who probably only beat Joyboy through trickery. I respect your opinion though, I guess we can only see. I dont wanna argue about this anymore lol
 
That´s not how things work... It was stated pre time skip because it was true at the time. Since the admirals have changed, as well as the fleet admiral, it is not automatically true post timeskip.
Why would the statement just expire? If there’s no updated statement, the only logical thing to do is to continue referring to it.
The only thing that’s happened to the Navy post timeskip is that they’ve gotten more powerful and determined than ever before
 
I mentioned God Valley, to know when Shanks was born, that's all...
He was likely a small child rescued at God’s Valley
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80% of the pages are about Zoro fans and Admiral fans arguing about silly stuff like Mihawk>Shanks, Admiral>HKs, Katakuri>King, Akainu>Shamrock.
Classic WG.
Classic World Government
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Why would the statement just expire? If there’s no updated statement, the only logical thing to do is to continue referring to it.
The only thing that’s happened to the Navy post timeskip is that they’ve gotten more powerful and determined than ever before
The statement has already been made.

It seems, as usual, we need a reading comprehension check.

Dragon stated, to Sabo, a person who just fought an Admiral on Dressrosa and then infiltrated Mariejoa where there were two admirals in attendance, with whom his commanders clashed and escaped, that the real fight would not begin until God’s Knights are unleashed.

This statement is easily the same level of authority as the description of the admirals as the greatest fighting force, and it was made by a character who has more information.

Comprehension Check:
1) Sabo fought an admiral, and even his subordinates fought an admiral
2) Sabo himself encountered and was wounded by the Gorosei
3) The real fight has not begun
4) God’s Knights are the real fight

Admiral stans will be butthurt until the narrative shows that the force of the GK is superior, then they will just blame Oda or adapt to the truth and pretend they always knew.
 
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Katakuri needs his own Snakeman version. Make it happen Goda.
Katakuri needs his own mochi g4

We know logia’s like Enel and Aramaki can give themselves giant forms by mass producing their element. I don’t see why Katakuri can’t do the same
Like luffy he has flame hardening that keeps the property of his fruit. Him coating it in that hardening like luffy would be dope


Katakuri can make multiple arms to counter luffy’s g2 gatling spam speed

Can increase size just like g3

Next up g4 sticky man
 
The statement has already been clearly made.

It seems, as usual, we just need a reading comprehension check. Admirals, please take a break to smoke the copium now.

Dragon stated, to Sabo, a person who just fought an Admiral on Dressrosa and then infiltrated Mariejoa where there were two admirals in attendance, with whom his commanders clashed and escaped, that the real fight would not begin until God’s Knights are unleashed.

This statement is easily the same level of authority as the description of the admirals as the greatest fighting force, and it was made by a character who has more information.

Comprehension Check:
1) Sabo fought an admiral, and even his subordinates fought an admiral
2) Sabo himself encountered and was wounded by the Gorosei
3) The real fight has not begun
4) God’s Knights are the real fight

Admiral stans will be butthurt until the narrative shows that the force of the GK is superior, then they will just blame Oda or adapt to the truth and pretend they always knew.
 
The WG should hire Perospero dude build an Punk Hazard replica out of candy in no time
The way Oda nerfed BM and Pero at Wano is something else

Perospero can literally recreate huge buildings and stairs easily, candy bullets that can go through Exoskeleton and germa suits,...

:seriously:Yet Oda didn't show him use his skills to the maxt at wano
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Canonically admirals > any other member of the WG military aka holy knights.
You're confusing things

HOLY KNIGHTS aren't counted when they mention WG military forces

Knights serve under Imu and Gorosei directly
It's the same as Gorosei not being counted part of WG military force

WG military forces : Navy, CP, Sword, SSG , warlords
 


Argue about who's stronger all you not but Dragon's opponent is obviously Shamrock. It's been made clear the Revs are only opposing the WG; they don't care about the Navy. The Navy isn't evil in their eye. The Navy serves to protect the people from pirates which I think Dragon would respect. Yes there is corruption plaguing it but they have a good goal at heart. The marines have just been brainwashed by the WG so they do questionable stuff

And yes, Akainu hates Dragon but that's because he's the biggest extremist of the marine ideology and he probably thinks the Revs are terrorists who go making mayhem and all they want is power (been brainwashed by the WG). That's not an indicator to a future fight. It probably is an indicator to a past relationship they had where they were friends who had a harsh rivalry which is why Akainu sees him in a negative light. Until Dragon himself mentions Akainu in a negative light, I'm not sold on a future fight. This is the Shanks vs Mihawk of the marines for me
 
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