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Legitimate question for you guys: Is Saint Shanks stronger than Shamrock? And if so, why exactly?

@Kurozumi Wiwi @MarineHQ @comrade no trolling please.

I see no reason for him to be weaker than Saint Shanks.

-Saint Shanks and Shamrock are twins, genetically they are basically the same human and thus should have likely inherited the same Haki. You can argue maybe Shamrock doesn’t have future sight or AdCoA which require training, but his CoC should absolutely be the same as Saint Shanks’s or at least similar.

-Shamrock as an active Holy Knight should train. Saint Shanks doesn’t really train at all, he mostly drinks and parties.

-Shamrock isn’t a cripple

-Even if you argue Saint Shanks who utilizes Roger’s fighting style is a more skilled fighter than Shamrock, Shamrock has a sword with a mythical Zoan fruit.

Seriously I can’t see any logical reason for Saint Shanks being stronger than Shamrock other than Saint Shanks just being Oda’s favorite character lol.
Haki is only partly genetic. I strongly doubt his haki is as good as Shanks'
 
Lmao, I am now thinking that Shamrock is just a setup for Shanks' power ups :DeepThink:

Speed: Gryphons can fly at high speeds, and can dive at even higher speeds using gravity
We have seen it first in Film Red when he flew right next to Kizaru.
Then in anime, against Kid.
Sixth sense
In Greek mythology, gryphons were thought to have a sixth sense that allowed them to find gold
Oda introduced Shanks' haki as the killer of observation haki. Why? Probably because of Gryphon-associated sixth sense.
Treasure protection
In Greek mythology, gryphons were chosen by Zeus to guard the Gold of the North
This one is interesting. Shanks gave treasure map to Buggy, right? :myman:
Shapeshifting
Gryphons can absorb genetic material from other creatures to create a new body
As you pointed out, Shanks may have regenration or other way to get his arm back.
Intelligence
Gryphons can use their intelligence to understand how to weaken their enemies
This may only be used when Gryphon is in full form.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Lor D. Coast @Pot Goblin @MonochromeYoru @kyejames316
 
Lmao, I am now thinking that Shamrock is just a setup for Shanks' power ups :DeepThink:


We have seen it first in Film Red when he flew right next to Kizaru.
Then in anime, against Kid.

Oda introduced Shanks' haki as the killer of observation haki. Why? Probably because of Gryphon-associated sixth sense.

This one is interesting. Shanks gave treasure map to Buggy, right? :myman:

As you pointed out, Shanks may have regenration or other way to get his arm back.

This may only be used when Gryphon is in full form.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Lor D. Coast @Pot Goblin @MonochromeYoru @kyejames316
Already posted several agreements with you lol

Garling fruit is Moon Rabbit?
 
Lmao, I am now thinking that Shamrock is just a setup for Shanks' power ups :DeepThink:


We have seen it first in Film Red when he flew right next to Kizaru.
Then in anime, against Kid.

Oda introduced Shanks' haki as the killer of observation haki. Why? Probably because of Gryphon-associated sixth sense.

This one is interesting. Shanks gave treasure map to Buggy, right? :myman:

As you pointed out, Shanks may have regenration or other way to get his arm back.

This may only be used when Gryphon is in full form.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Lor D. Coast @Pot Goblin @MonochromeYoru @kyejames316
I dig it though knowing Oda he's gonna give it to a random dining room table
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You sure about that? CoC is an inherited trait from birth lol. Shamrock’s daddy just became a Gorosei which is an indication that Garling’s Haki is on a similar level to Warcury, and Shamrock would have inherited Garling’s Haki as well most likely.
Ace inherited Roger's CoC and never fully developed it. I'm saying it depends on the person's lifestyle, as a pirate since childhood Shanks didn't go for one day in his life without some form of haki training. The HKs without a doubt are also trained in combat but just look at this guy's luscious locks lol. He looks like a pampered brat, like east blue Helmeppo without the chin
 
Ace inherited Roger's CoC and never fully developed it. I'm saying it depends on the person's lifestyle, as a pirate since childhood Shanks didn't go for one day in his life without some form of haki training. The HKs without a doubt are also trained in combat but just look at this guy's luscious locks lol. He looks like a pampered brat, like east blue Helmeppo without the chin
It would absolutely not surprise me for Shamrock to get gagged, maybe fanboys for Nami, then kidnaps her because of course
 
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