Future Events Final 1v1 with Blackbeard. No Fight against Akainu, and Raid Fight against Imu

[SakazOuki]

Imo it’s because everyone is underestimating Sabo’s EOS potential, so admiral haters want to use the potential matchup to downplay Sakazuki while a lot admiral fans want to neglect it.

The problem with both side is that Sabo very easily could be a PK level character EOS.

I think of it kind of like using Koby to downplay Kuzan, it’s a retarded move once you realize Koby is probably going to be unambiguously Garp tier and maybe even stronger at that point

Sabo will easily be stronger than all the Yonko, Akainu isn’t that affected powerwise
It is the ideologies that don’t align, plus evidence from the manga
To Akainu, Luffy is sinful and deserves death for the mere fact of being born, evil blood runs in his veins
Sabo was born of noble blood, while I’m not saying Sakazuki wouldn’t put him in the dirt if he sees him, but Sabo’s fight is with the world nobles, the ones who shot him on the beginning of his journey. Right now Shamrock is looking like his matchup. Ivankov mentioned how the HKs will be on his ass.
Sabo is never surpassing Akainu due to their fruits anyway

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Bro is shook at their appearance. Jinbei who is not bothered about people like Big Mamu, is rattled by Mars' haki from far away. Mars had that boy Lucci shook from far away too.

Spoiler

VS

His Demeanor didn't change a single bit despite being in a 6vs1 didn't change a single bit. From attacking all 5 Gorosei to them tranforming, to attacking Imu to Imu transforming.

Spoiler

I think people forget Sabo since Dressrosa had a FAR easier way to progress in powerlevels thanks to the Mera Mera than Luffy did. Not even counting potential haki boost from this. The homie within days was doing things with the Mera Mera we never seen Ace do.

Spoiler

IMO, y'all just underrate how strong Sabo is going to be at his peak and how strong he already is now, the man is getting Sun God treatment despite not being a D.

Still need to see more.

Im sure a Holy Knight or two will get fed to Sabo at some point

 

[Xione]

Still need to see more.

Im sure a Holy Knight or two will get fed to Sabo at some point

That's fair

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Yeah sabo doesn’t have a lot of top tier feats but his portfolio is slowly building over time hell he’s already being called flame emperor his influence might surpass dragons at this rate who doesn’t do shit. but wg users will still call him trash off of the possibility of fighting the FA.

I mean I don't think it's possible to surpass Dragon's influence, since Sabo's influence technically just enhances Dragon's own influence due to Sabo being his underling.

But yea I think Luffy/Zoro/Sabo are the main young star trio against the WG and specifically against Imu. As much as I want to push a Smoker > Zoro/Sabo agenda.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Bro is shook at their appearance. Jinbei who is not bothered about people like Big Mamu, is rattled by Mars' haki from far away. Mars had that boy Lucci shook from far away too.

Spoiler

VS

His Demeanor didn't change a single bit despite being in a 6vs1 didn't change a single bit. From attacking all 5 Gorosei to them tranforming, to attacking Imu to Imu transforming.

Spoiler

I think people forget Sabo since Dressrosa had a FAR easier way to progress in powerlevels thanks to the Mera Mera than Luffy did. Not even counting potential haki boost from this. The homie within days was doing things with the Mera Mera we never seen Ace do.

Spoiler

IMO, y'all just underrate how strong Sabo is going to be at his peak and how strong he already is now, the man is getting Sun God treatment despite not being a D.

Sabos went the route of Physical Training > Haki > DF
Ace went the route of Physical Training > DF > Haki

I would bet it’s better to build Physical strength and Haki before gaining a DF. A DF tends to leave you lazy or over reliant, at the very least not in as much need to work on your physical shape or your haki.

Sabo was already a monster before gaining a DF (Ace was too in his own right but he got his DF before he had a chance to fully develop his Haki like Sabo).

 

[Xione]

Sabos went the route of Physical Training > Haki > DF
Ace went the route of Physical Training > DF > Haki

I would bet it’s better to build Physical strength and Haki before gaining a DF. A DF tends to leave you lazy or over reliant, at the very least not in as much need to work on your physical shape or your haki.

Sabo was already a monster before gaining a DF (Ace was too in his own right but he got his DF before he had a chance to fully develop his Haki like Sabo).

Not only that but also:
- Their potential is established as being neigh-equal, where one takes the lead or the other takes the lead in their wins.
Since then..
- Sabo was formally trained by a top tier and monsters like Kuma on a daily basis. Ace got occasional training from Garp whooping they ass or just fighting against Luffy.
- Even when Ace got under Newgate, the mf didn't get any formal training, and spent 6 months literally running around chasing Blackbeard. Sabo on the other hand... still keeping up his military shit.


Like two people with similar/same potential and one is getting trained far more and better, I just don't see how the other would even be on the same level as him. I think Sabo would whoop Ace pre-TS. And I think he's already shown a FAR better use of the mera mera than Ace ever did.

 

[haxxor]

Akainutard detected. Someone is triggered...

Haha , you’re the retard in question as well.

 

[NAMELESS]

Haha , you’re the retard in question as well.

Baited.

 

[haxxor]

Baited.

That’s pretty cheap , you hardly did anything.

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[haxxor]

Bro says “baited”
> responds to me a literal second later

haha bro been waiting here lurking for me to respond.

 

[NAMELESS]

That’s pretty cheap , you hardly did anything.

Chill, my guy. Akainu will get some screen time. It's obvious.

 

[haxxor]

Chill, my guy. Akainu will get some screen time. It's obvious.

Oh so you’re getting submissive now?

 

[Blahmigooo]

Akainu ain't gonna change sides, he'll be an antagonist against Luffy or pirates in general and fight the WG enemies till the end.
Even if many other Marines under him betray and switch sides, he'll fight for his justice till the end.
This dude is portrayed like that,
We aren't gonna pretend like Akainu only find out (later in the story) that the WG are in deepshit what they're doing is actually evil and wrong. He already knows all of it, if not more than readers about WG and their history, we have Coby to turn the tides for future Marine and their justice.

 

[NotHereForSpoilers]

More and more it seems sabo will be the one to beat akainu at this point.

Agreed

end game luffy will be way too strong for Akainu if the goal is imu lol

 

[NAMELESS]

Oh so you’re getting submissive now?

Touch grass, weeboo.

 

[trav]

There has never been build up against Akainu. Luffy does not swing that way. It was Aces adventure and Aces fault he got grilled.

Sabo needs to show more first

He fodderized YC even before getting the Mera. Easily got away from Admirals and all Gorosei + Imu.
Can you explain what exactly Sabo would need to do or show?

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Not only that but also:
- Their potential is established as being neigh-equal, where one takes the lead or the other takes the lead in their wins.
Since then..
- Sabo was formally trained by a top tier and monsters like Kuma on a daily basis. Ace got occasional training from Garp whooping they ass or just fighting against Luffy.
- Even when Ace got under Newgate, the mf didn't get any formal training, and spent 6 months literally running around chasing Blackbeard. Sabo on the other hand... still keeping up his military shit.


Like two people with similar/same potential and one is getting trained far more and better, I just don't see how the other would even be on the same level as him. I think Sabo would whoop Ace pre-TS. And I think he's already shown a FAR better use of the mera mera than Ace ever did.

While I agree with some or most of what you wrote I think Ace had an intangible that Sabo lacks. Ace protecting nakama had the ”god tier booster” which I’m not sure Sabo has. I think that’s reserved for Luffy, Roger, Ace and perhaps someone else, it goes beyond just strength that can be measured or quantified. I also feel Sabo is a trained fighter, Ace is a natural. Shame we never got to see his max.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I always assumed that at some point Luffy would 1v1 all three of these guys, but what if that doesn't happen?

The fight against Imu might not be a simple 1v1 battle but instead a huge group battle.

As for the battle against Akainu, even though part of me still believes that Luffy will 1v1 him, but what if Akainu and Luffy don't fight at all?

Instead of having Akainu get defeated, maybe he betrays the WG after finding out about the whole thing with Imu, and we get Akainu and the Marines vs the WG.

This means that maybe Luffy's final 1v1 fight will be against Blackbeard.

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Imu will be a group effort.
Sabo gets Akainu.
Luffy vs Blackbeard

 

[Xione]

While I agree with some or most of what you wrote I think Ace had an intangible that Sabo lacks. Ace protecting nakama had the ”god tier booster” which I’m not sure Sabo has. I think that’s reserved for Luffy, Roger, Ace and perhaps someone else, it goes beyond just strength that can be measured or quantified. I also feel Sabo is a trained fighter, Ace is a natural. Shame we never got to see his max.

I think everybody has that booster. I mean Sabo became a trained fighter, the brotha went from living a luxury life to tying up with Ace who was born and raised in the wilderness. If anything idk, Sabo seems like the more natural fighter who just happened to also be the more trained fighter.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

I think everybody has that booster.

Yeah, but only a few have gotten special attention over it.

Ace vs Bluejam
Roger "becoming a demon when his friend in danger"
Shanks -ii-
WB when his family hurt
Luffy vs Lucci

Nobody has as of yet said (or shown) that about Imu, Gorosei, Garp, Dragon, Mihawk, Kaido, Big Mom, Sengoku, Akainu and so on.