Speculations The first world was highly civilized probably like our modern world or more advanced

[Fujishiro]

Looking at this it looks like there are skyscrapers here, some actually look like nuclear power plants. I believe that the verse saying ''At the begining of the world there was flame'' it refers to the fact that the world was highly advanced and was powered by energy. Kind of goes in hand with some of what Vegapunk was saying about the ancient Kingdom being highly advanced and that his dream is to find an infinite source of energy for the world, that would be nuclear power or something like that.

Thoughts?

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[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

The First World shows human civilization fleeing. The "Maxim" you saw in the sky isn’t Uranus but Enel’s Maxim, which operates using lightning created by humans to escape to the moon (which is why Oda drew a moon).
We have Zunisha with Noah; Noah was meant to carry slaves and animals, while Zunisha transported the imperial family and its members. They were trying to store the Mother Flame’s energy as quickly as possible so they could leave their developed city while ensuring they had enough power to build another after the war settled down.
The Deity of Earth and the Hell Serpent were fighting against Nika using fire, making it difficult for the Maxim to leave the island and reach the moon but they succeded in the end.
No wonder there is a civilization on the moon, they are originally the humans of the First World who left because of the First War.

 

[Konstantis]

Nuclear War, Polution all the way, we are moving up there, this is why winter was sooo warm.

 

[Fujishiro]

The First World shows human civilization fleeing. The "Maxim" you saw in the sky isn’t Uranus but Enel’s Maxim, which operates using lightning created by humans to escape to the moon (which is why Oda drew a moon).
We have Zunisha with Noah; Noah was meant to carry slaves and animals, while Zunisha transported the imperial family and its members. They were trying to store the Mother Flame’s energy as quickly as possible so they could leave their developed city while ensuring they had enough power to build another after the war settled down.
The Deity of Earth and the Hell Serpent were fighting against Nika using fire, making it difficult for the Maxim to leave the island and reach the moon but they succeded in the end.
No wonder there is a civilization on the moon, they are originally the humans of the First World who left because of the First War.

Yeah exactly the first world was highly civilized but like Icarus coveted more got burned and tried to flee to the moon. Remnants of that war was the second world.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

oda doin a little social commentary

if we can have dfs and haki, i am fine with the billionaires and corporations fucking up the earth

LFG

 

[Fujishiro]

oda doin a little social commentary

if we can have dfs and haki, i am fine with the billionaires and corporations fucking up the earth

LFG

WW3 happened in the OP world and everyone got rekt.

 

[kekaro]

That city looks sussy close to the one on the moon underground
only chimneys are missing

 

[Konstantis]

WW3 happened in the OP world and everyone got rekt.

Call Ilon Mask we need to build our civilization on the Moon like people from OP world did.

 

[Mr.Baj1o]

Sounds possible to me keep cooking

 

[Lord Melkor]

The First World shows human civilization fleeing. The "Maxim" you saw in the sky isn’t Uranus but Enel’s Maxim, which operates using lightning created by humans to escape to the moon (which is why Oda drew a moon).
We have Zunisha with Noah; Noah was meant to carry slaves and animals, while Zunisha transported the imperial family and its members. They were trying to store the Mother Flame’s energy as quickly as possible so they could leave their developed city while ensuring they had enough power to build another after the war settled down.
The Deity of Earth and the Hell Serpent were fighting against Nika using fire, making it difficult for the Maxim to leave the island and reach the moon but they succeded in the end.
No wonder there is a civilization on the moon, they are originally the humans of the First World who left because of the First War.

This makes sense to me.

I wonder what is relation of the first civilization to IMU and 20 kings which became Celestial Dragons. Were they heirs of the rulers of the first world civilzation?

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Yes. Vegapunk said this too but maybe he didnt knew about the division between First World and Second World. After all,his clone who went to Elbaph was freezed right? And also,we didnt hear his full speech. Maybe re-reading it now we could understand more from that?

 

[Juanpiz]

Where Are our Devil fruits?

 

[Rej]

The Skyscrapers was exactly what I thought when I first read it.
Looks very mechanical and industrial.

I first thought it was Pluton an island ship that carries an entire nation that's built like Egghead.
Might stick with me for now.

Also I always thought that the vulcano on Wano looked like a giant chimney. Back then I always theorized that some sort of ancient forge is below the vulcano. Tbh I wasn't that far off probably. *fingers crossed*

 

[Fujishiro]

Where Are our Devil fruits?

The fruits came in the second world. The verse says '' The God of the forest wove their magic, nurturing its devils'' probably refers to the devil fruit tree that was mentioned in the manga and it giving out the first devil fruits.

 

[kyejames316]

This was all explicitly stated by Vegapunk? and it is the easiest part of the mural to understand?

 

[Fujishiro]

This was all explicitly stated by Vegapunk? and it is the easiest part of the mural to understand?

Vegapunk was likely refering to the second world, the first world was even more advanced.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

The fruits came in the second world. The verse says '' The God of the forest wove their magic, nurturing its devils'' probably refers to the devil fruit tree that was mentioned in the manga and it giving out the first devil fruits.

There's also a line about people deifying themselves and evoking the wrath of the sea god.

So maybe the first dfs didn't have the water/sea weakness and only got it later after the sea god cursed them.

In which case, i think goofy might undo the curse and get rid of his, and maybe even all the other df user's sea weakness.

But he still won't be able to swim cause he doesn't know and just can't learn it. Would be such an oda thing to do lol.

 

[Fujishiro]

There's also a line about people deifying themselves and evoking the wrath of the sea god.

So maybe the first dfs didn't have the water/sea weakness and only got it later after the sea god cursed them.

In which case, i think goofy might undo the curse and get rid of his, and maybe even all the other df user's sea weakness.

But he still won't be able to swim cause he doesn't know and just can't learn it. Would be such an oda thing to do lol.

Would be funny lol. The people deifying themselves are likely the kings that fought Joyboy and co. After Joyboy lost and died they ''deified themselves'' ( became CDs and created the WG and started calling themselves gods) and the sea god only became enraged after Joyboy died not when fruits appeared so its likely that the sea god was a person (probably Poseidon) and he/she got mad and flooded the world after JBs death in grieving.

 

[Halyup]

This makes sense to me.

I wonder what is relation of the first civilization to IMU and 20 kings which became Celestial Dragons. Were they heirs of the rulers of the first world civilzation?

The original 20 kings wasnt Evil villains
Vegapunk implied in egghead

 

[Vanlax]

"Jet" Pistol

Memories of Nika?