Controversial Black Beard team is soooo weak and this showcases why BB wasn't planned as FV

#41
Because opression could come from any source, including pirates. But maybe you believe that people in Wano was free and happy under Kaido's rule?

But WG always covered mud after those guys, right?

And that is because Aokiji decided to rebel against WG, and he joined Teach because siding BB is probably the fastest way to find One Piece and Truth about this World.

Well, this is because Luffy is simple minded guy, he can't dream about making free all people in the world. But this doesn't mean that he accepts slavery overall.

But Oda make Luffy to meet BB in Impel Down and talk about this issue. Luffy was angry, but for him Teach was never the main object to fight against. Again this we was able to witness in Fishman Island when Luffy was sleeing on BB, but reacted on Akainu.
Well sure that's my point lol. Luffy travels around the world and meets different types of islands. Some ruined by pirates some ruined by the WG. I don't agree with simply saying OP is about fighting WG oppression, that's an aspect for sure, but its about generally fighting for freedom. Characters like Croco are simply pirate villains despite being warlords imo, they did make a contract with the WG, but they didn't follow it without the WG knowing(when the truth came out, the Marines arrested Croco pretty quickly, though with Doffy its more complicated). Blackbeard can be final villain because he has ambitions of ruling the world, while Luffy wants to be the most free in the world.
 
#42
Well sure that's my point lol. Luffy travels around the world and meets different types of islands. Some ruined by pirates some ruined by the WG. I don't agree with simply saying OP is about fighting WG oppression, that's an aspect for sure, but its about generally fighting for freedom. Characters like Croco are simply pirate villains despite being warlords imo, they did make a contract with the WG, but they didn't follow it without the WG knowing(when the truth came out, the Marines arrested Croco pretty quickly, though with Doffy its more complicated). Blackbeard can be final villain because he has ambitions of ruling the world, while Luffy wants to be the most free in the world.
Yes, well this was my point. One Piece is story about freedom, not about pirates overall. So storywise I don't see the reason why Oda has to steal victory over Imu's regime from Luffy and give him small victory against BlackBeard. BB with all his plans just can't even put the world into opression and build regime like Imu did. If this was just half of story then yes BB was able to became the final villain, but it's not.
 
#49
Yep. Several of Imu’s servants could wipe out most of the BB pirates crew members by themselves.
Any of the 4 Admirals, the immortal Gorosei, presumably Shamrock will be a top tier, Kong if he hasn’t expired at his desk…

Blackbeard simply doesn’t have the force to bear.
The only desperate option of him somehow taking Imu’s powers could only be possible through intense levels of mind-numbing stupidity.

Still till this day not ONE person could come up with a feasible way for him to do it that doesn’t make you want to get a lobotomy.
 
#52
OK, without Aokiji Garp was able to solo half of BB crew and this is not a joke. Whatever you guys believe Oda didn't build BB as the final villain of the series. Even in the last chapter whole hype was build near Imu and Holy Knights. You can argue but Gunko is probably stronger then any of BB jobbers. Why Oda made BB team so weak? Because BB is not the final villain. He is not build to be the Final Villain. Teach alone was bleeding from fight against Law. This not look good for him.

From other hand, what Imu has?

Holy Knights - all stronger then YC1, probably.
Gorosei - immortal beigns that was nerfed for plot sake, but in the FW they will be each stronger then any HK.
Marines - Akainu, Greenbull, Kizaru(?) and those who will be still loyal to WG.



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I think a serious Garp can solo half of the Strawhats too, depending on who's there...
 
#56
BB pirates also have so little thought put into their dfs. Like strong strong fruit or giant giant? Just making strong guy stronger and big guy bigger. These are such throwaway characters for so called "final villains". Even Shiryu, just got absaloms df.

Compare that to just the creativity of Gunko using her arrow arrow fruit. Oda clearly cares about 1 more than the others.
 
#58
Janitor is surely not the weakest in BB crew, and he was almost neg diffed. Could Garp neg diff Zoro? Sanji? Jinbei? I don't think so.
Me neither but the other half ? : )

I feel his crew will be what gets him powerful enough to go solo against anyone. I think he chose them for that, at least the original crew. Lafitte will absolutely lose against Sanji or whoever when time comes, but if he got BB his third ancient weapon a week before that, well...

I don't think you can guess the final vilain via powerscaling. I hope you can guess via the story, and both Imu and BB fit the bill, so we'll see. Unseen sea god or whatever is acceptable too I guess.
 
#60
OK, without Aokiji Garp was able to solo half of BB crew and this is not a joke. Whatever you guys believe Oda didn't build BB as the final villain of the series. Even in the last chapter whole hype was build near Imu and Holy Knights. You can argue but Gunko is probably stronger then any of BB jobbers. Why Oda made BB team so weak? Because BB is not the final villain. He is not build to be the Final Villain. Teach alone was bleeding from fight against Law. This not look good for him.

From other hand, what Imu has?

Holy Knights - all stronger then YC1, probably.
Gorosei - immortal beigns that was nerfed for plot sake, but in the FW they will be each stronger then any HK.
Marines - Akainu, Greenbull, Kizaru(?) and those who will be still loyal to WG.



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@Elder Lee Hung @EmperorKinyagi @Tyki_Mikk @TheAncientCenturion @Blackbeard @Sentinel @RayanOO @Kurozumi Wiwi @Mr. Reloaded @kekaro @Cross_Marian @DarkWitch @Blazing Lion
the same can be said about the strawhats
 
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