Powers & Abilities How does a sword awaken?

[Afroking]

Come on dude. Them being the most rare type is obviously implying they’re also the most powerful type. Oda isn’t writing some hyper nuanced power system where rarity doesn’t correlate to power.


Ginny’s statement was clearly saying Kaido’s fruit belongs to the strongest type of DF (Mythical Zoans). It makes no sense for her to be referring to a subclass of Mythical Zoans when we know that the God Fruits are the strongest subclass of Mythical Zoans, and the Gorosei’s and HKs should be above Kaido’s too.

Idk how you can look at Oda handing out Mythical Zoans to all the endgame villains and not realize Mythical Zoans are seen by Oda as the strongest DF type

It is no different than Quake Quake fruit being considered one of the strongest on par with Logias per Oda's words.. The dragon fruit is one of the strongest in existence but as a family in whole Logias are the strongest.

 

[Shiroyru]

So then are mythical stronger than the Gura Gura as well? Since that fruit is only on par with the average logia.

That’s a direct statement by the way.

1. Gura Gura isn’t a type of DF.
2. Oda said Gura Gura is no weaker than Logias iirc.

That’s not what she said.

Like literally, unambiguously we had clarification on this.

https://x.com/sandman_AP/status/1718677027799396741

Bro? That sandman translation literally says Kaido’s DF is the strongest type of DF, aka Mythical Zoan.

If you think Vegapunk being unable to replicate logias isn’t a hint that there’s way more going on with logias than meets the eye you’re delusional.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if they get categorization as “infinite energy sources” like the mother flame at some point.

Obviously Logias are special, but if they were better than Mythical Zoans, then the CDs would be giving Mythical Zoans to Admirals and hoarding the Logias for themselves, rather than vice verse

 

[Shiroyru]

It is no different than Quake Quake fruit being considered one of the strongest on par with Logias per Oda's words.. The dragon fruit is one of the strongest in existence but as a family in whole Logias are the strongest.

Gura isn’t a type of DF. Ginny said Kaido’s DF is among the strongest type.

 

[kekaro]

Let's not ask Kaido blud about this

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

1. Gura Gura isn’t a type of DF.
2. Oda said Gura Gura is no weaker than Logias iirc.


Bro? That sandman translation literally says Kaido’s DF is the strongest type of DF, aka Mythical Zoan.


Obviously Logias are special, but if they were better than Mythical Zoans, then the CDs would be giving Mythical Zoans to Admirals and hoarding the Logias for themselves, rather than vice verse

I still don’t think those are mythical zoans you’re seeing given to Gorosei

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Also @Shiroyru Gunko literally has an average/average+ paramecia

The CDs are hoarding mythical zoans that’s empirically false

 

[Shiroyru]

I still don’t think those are mythical zoans you’re seeing given to Gorosei

Even if they’re not actual DFs, they’re clearly supposed to be reminiscent of Mythical Zoans.

 

[Shiroyru]

Also @Shiroyru Gunko literally has an average/average+ paramecia

The CDs are hoarding mythical zoans that’s empirically false

Gunko is just a standard HK. I guarantee you the HK commanders will all have Mythical Zoans

 

[soupongo]

Awakenings don't make sense. Simple as

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Gunko is just a standard HK. I guarantee you the HK commanders will all have Mythical Zoans

Literally a sub average logia in the series is superior to Gunko’s fruit, if the WG had logias to give they would

 

[Shiroyru]

Literally a sub average logia in the series is superior to Gunko’s fruit, if the WG had logias to give they would

Gunko’s fruit is very good.

 

[Afroking]

Gura isn’t a type of DF. Ginny said Kaido’s DF is among the strongest type.

Sandman simply showed both the tbc translation (1st pic) and the Viz one on the second pic.

He agrees with Viz

 

[kyejames316]

Literally a sub average logia in the series is superior to Gunko’s fruit, if the WG had logias to give they would

Wow no? Gunko destroys Caribou etc, Haki overcomes logia resistance, and her mastery of her fruit is absurd. The fruit is as good as the user is a way better rule of thumb than one type over the others.
Luffy with the mythical zoan Nika lost to how many people with other fruits? Ultimately he bounced back and won later, but their superiority as fighters or fruit users beat him originally. His fruit is literally one of the strongest of all, a literal deity, if not the strongest, yet he lost to people who know how to use their fruits or fight better.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Gunko’s fruit is very good.

LMAO

Wow no? Gunko destroys Caribou etc, Haki overcomes logia resistance, and her mastery of her fruit is absurd. The fruit is as good as the user is a way better rule of thumb than one type over the others.
Luffy with the mythical zoan Nika lost to how many people with other fruits? Ultimately he bounced back and won later, but their superiority as fighters or fruit users beat him originally. His fruit is literally one of the strongest of all, a literal deity, if not the strongest, yet he lost to people who know how to use their fruits or fight better.

I didn’t say Gunko wouldn’t beat Caribou, but it’s not because of her DF

She has shown literally nothing that Caribou couldn’t if he were a superior user.

And again this is Caribou, an AVERAGE logia is like Kuzan’s

 

[ConquistadoR]

It probably isn't a Devil Fruit, i'm not even sure the Gorosei's abilities has been confirmed as Awakened Devil Fruits.

Oda usually has no problem highlighting the name of the fruit if it was indeed DFs, but instead we just get the names of the Demons for the Gorosei & now Shamrock's sword.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Giving swords fruit powers should just be deleted.

his does it even work? An object can't eat

Idk but a sword having a mythical fruit is a lot cooler than a black blade imo

It's the haki vs df all over again but with objects lol

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

It probably isn't a Devil Fruit, i'm not even sure the Gorosei's abilities has been confirmed as Awakened Devil Fruits.

Oda usually has no problem highlighting the name of the fruit if it was indeed DFs, but instead we just get the names of the Demons for the Gorosei & now Shamrock's sword.

It’s because they’re not DFs, and especially with the mural talking about gods “sending forth demons” it’s probably gifted power.

I wouldn’t be surprised if EOS Luffy can do the same thing.

He’s gonna power up people like he’s 4th war Naruto

 

[Yoho]

his does it even work? An object can't eat

It's the haki vs df all over again but with objects lol

Haki is overall stronger but devil fruits are better

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Because it was created by Imu who can do whatever he wants

I mean if Chopper could come up with the rumble balls by himself ofc the WG with their unlimited resources can too

 

[kyejames316]

LMAO

I didn’t say Gunko wouldn’t beat Caribou, but it’s not because of her DF

She has shown literally nothing that Caribou couldn’t if he were a superior user.

And again this is Caribou, an AVERAGE logia is like Kuzan’s

You mean like Monet? Aokiji’s is the highest tier, straight up cold/ice, not the average.

but in any case, Gunko’s fruit goes hard, when she actually lets loose a named arrow attack it’s going to be insanely powerful