Controversial Black Beard team is soooo weak and this showcases why BB wasn't planned as FV

[HellBlazer04]

Funny you say mine is head canon and then respond with the biggest head canon of your own.

No, at all:

HK were put against Revs by Oda, like it or not.

And:

1) we have absolutely no indication of Gunko being the second in command, that's headcanon, as her supposed level;

2) Oda being Oda, women will fight against women, meaning Gunko is going to fight (serioualy at least, not come random clash) Nami, Robin or if Oda foreshadowing is correct, Belo Betty or Koala.

Chances are, Gunko is the last in line of the HK. Not that if she was really the second in command, she would near top tiers anyway.

Shamrock and Gunko coming to elbaf to force them to surrender and Shamrock treating her in an equal manner tells me that they are the captain and second in command of HK.

Or do have any examples where a Captain is going on a mission along with someone who is not the 2nd in command to that organisation?

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Did u not see what she did to someone thousand times stronger than Zoro?
Zoro would die to her horribly if not for plot armor

 

[Jailer]

Shamrock and Gunko coming to elbaf to force them to surrender and Shamrock treating her in an equal manner tells me that they are the captain and second in command of HK.

Or do have any examples where a Captain is going on a mission along with someone who is not the 2nd in command to that organisation?

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Did u not see what she did to someone thousand times stronger than Zoro?
Zoro would die to her horribly if not for plot armor

Blackbeard went with Devon and Vasco Shot

Luffy without Zoro going to Totland

Big Mom without Katakuri going to Wano

This isn't even a requirement considering they can just summon them, like they are about to summon another HK, iy's just a bs rule you made up.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Blackbeard went with Devon and Vasco Shot

Luffy without Zoro going to Totland

Big Mom without Katakuri going to Wano

This isn't even a requirement considering they can just summon them, like they are about to summon another HK, iy's just a bs rule you made up.

I forgot to mention it, but I basically meant just 2 characters going for a mission.

All the examples u gave were of group participation. Not just 2 characters

U won't find any examples in the story where the Captain and just 1 other person are going for a mission. Only examples u will find are of captain and 2nd in command

 

[L57]

That’s one of many reasons why Teach can’t be Fv yeah

Wait until you realise characters can get stronger

 

[Jailer]

I forgot to mention it, but I basically meant just 2 characters going for a mission.

All the examples u gave were of group participation. Not just 2 characters

U won't find any examples in the story where the Captain and just 1 other person are going for a mission. Only examples u will find are of captain and 2nd in command

Bruh

 

[L57]

Shiryu awakening with sword df
Obito + kaido in 1 char @Blackbeard

 

[HellBlazer04]

Bruh

Im not wrong, am I?

Croc and Daz Bones going to buggy's island. Captain and 2nd in command

Kaido and King going to MF. Again Captain and 2nd in command

U won't find any other example. It's the same case with Shamrock and Gunko. Shamrock is the captain and Gunko is the 2nd command and 2nd strongest in HK

 

[Steven]

Im not wrong, am I?

Croc and Daz Bones going to buggy's island. Captain and 2nd in command

Kaido and King going to MF. Again Captain and 2nd in command

U won't find any other example. It's the same case with Shamrock and Gunko. Shamrock is the captain and Gunko is the 2nd command and 2nd strongest in HK

Makes sense

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Watch oda throw insane power ups in the end.

Only BB , Shiryu and Kuzan needs to be strong rest are already headliner level strong.

 

[Blackbeard]

Shiryu awakening with sword df
Obito + kaido in 1 char @Blackbeard

Any famous rain demons exist in Japanese mythology?

Whiryu is jumping several tiers with a Mythical Zoan Raiu anyway.

 

[Dragon777]

Shamrock and Gunko coming to elbaf to force them to surrender and Shamrock treating her in an equal manner tells me that they are the captain and second in command of HK.

Or do have any examples where a Captain is going on a mission along with someone who is not the 2nd in command to that organisation?

Plenty: BB at Winner, just to say one.

 

[LogicoftheVI]

Im not wrong, am I?

Croc and Daz Bones going to buggy's island. Captain and 2nd in command

Kaido and King going to MF. Again Captain and 2nd in command

U won't find any other example. It's the same case with Shamrock and Gunko. Shamrock is the captain and Gunko is the 2nd command and 2nd strongest in HK

Luffy and Vivi (Captain and a weakling) during the Little Garden Arc
Luffy and Sanji (Captain and 3rd strongest) during Drum Island Arc

 

[Jailer]

Any famous rain demons exist in Japanese mythology?

Whiryu is jumping several tiers with a Mythical Zoan Raiu anyway.

Wiki has it translated as thunderstorm

Popular zoan would be Raiju lol

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I forgot to mention it, but I basically meant just 2 characters going for a mission.

All the examples u gave were of group participation. Not just 2 characters

U won't find any examples in the story where the Captain and just 1 other person are going for a mission. Only examples u will find are of captain and 2nd in command

Luffy literally went in WCI with the weaker half of his crew, the strongest companion being Brook.
Your argument would work if HKs were planning to take Elbaf by sheer force, but they're clearly trying to be subtle about it. They've been concealing their presence, then tried to recruit Loki and now they're planning to take the children hostage as leverage. Gunko's abilities might simply be more suited for these type of mission as her fruit allows her to create a way of travelling that is pretty low key and she can restraint people. It's like Van Auger being the one to accompany Kuzan in WCI because his warp ability is pretty useful.

Also they're able to summon reinforcement anytime if they need more strenght.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Plenty: BB at Winner, just to say one.

I forgot to mention it, but I basically meant just 2 characters going for a mission.

I'm talking about only 2 character. Captain and only 1 more person

Luffy and Vivi (Captain and a weakling) during the Little Garden Arc
Luffy and Sanji (Captain and 3rd strongest) during Drum Island Arc

Not sure what u understood from my post but I'm obviously talking about combat scenario

 

[NotTommy]

I think Teach will be an amazing villain and his crew will continue to grow parallel to the Straw Hats and be fitting opponents when the time comes. With that said I think Imu is final villain.

The World Government is tied to a huge chunk of the world's suffering and has been for the past centuries. Imu directly gifts power to some of the strongest, most influential enemies in the series and they're directly tied to Joyboy, one of the most important figures in the series.

Blackbeard's crew will be a bigger threat for the Straw Hats than any other crew they've faced (hence clear, fitting opponents for a lot of the Straw Hats), but the WG is so grand in scope that the crew will need all their allies just to wadge a war in the hopes of beating them. Teach will end up the best villain, Luffy's Xebec of sorts (greatest pirate enemy), but I think Imu is final villain. Akainu will also face Luffy in my opinion due to their history.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Luffy literally went in WCI with the weaker half of his crew, the strongest companion being Brook.

Like I said, I'm talking about only Captain and 1 other person

And as for your other point, they were there specifically to make Loki submit. They didn't know about Look's situation so they were ready for the fight

 

[Dragon777]

I'm talking about only 2 character. Captain and only 1 more person

Then you are already our of It, becuase they are calling another memeber as we speak.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Condoriano is the final villain.

 

[LogicoftheVI]

I'm talking about only 2 character. Captain and only 1 more person


Not sure what u understood from my post but I'm obviously talking about combat scenario

I should have figured you would.move the goalpost once evidence that countered your argument surfaced. Carry on.