Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 957: Ultimate

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Aren't shichibukais the 1 that is always mentioned as "Government's dogs" instead of the Yonkos lol
Just trolling per usual. One of the Zoro fans that cant take any disagreement on Zoro or Mihawk.
sorry i don t consider shanks one of the 4 strongest pirates dude got carried by yasopp beckman and roo
Sorry, but he is. Obviously didn’t get carried by anybody but his own strength.
 

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Survivors Guilt
never said they were irrelevant, only that they weren’t rock solid. Another example of this, Luffy is now known as the fifth emperor. He wasn’t on par with the Yonko when he got the title. Titles aren’t as iron clad as made out to be.
Luffys Is called that off a mountain of lies. And EVERYONE knows that, nothing of tha sort has been said about Mihawk. Everytime we see him or he’s spoken of, nothing takes away from Tha fact that he’s tha WSS. No inverse speculation, no rumors, nothing. Also, Luffy is only 700mill begins Yonko Teach. And Teach is 2bill behind Shanks
 
Which has zero relevance because titles have never been rock solid. Whitebeard was the “World’s Strongest Man” during an era that featured Roger and Garp, both of whom beat Whitebeard’s captain, a man that was probably stronger than Whitebeard turned out to be. Kaido is the “World’s Strongest Creature,” and was so in an era that Whitebeard was the “World’s Strongest Man”. By definition, a creature is a man, but Whitebeard was stronger than Kaido. Mihawk’s title is irrelevant. He’s not as strong as Shanks, and Shanks became exponentially greater long after he stopped fighting Mihawk. Shanks became a Yonko, Mihawk did not.
Who said Rocks was stronger then peak WB. The same Peak WB who later on Match Peak Roger. The conclusion you come too are ridiculous. Similar to how you think Mihawk stayed the same strength after he fought Shanks.
 
@Buusatan94 @Jo_Ndule @Sentinel @playa4321 Ever wondered how come someone dared to attack Brulee, the daughter of Big Mom, that resulted in Katakuri covering his pelican eel like mouth? I saw someone in facebook pointed this out.

The year of Rocks' fall = the year they attacked Brulee (Brulee is 43 y.o now, and she was 5 when her face was scarred). So now this all makes sense. During the days after Rocks' fall, Big Mom must be at her weakest state. Thus some random local bullies had the nerve to attack her daughter.
Can I borrow this comment?
 
People will cry their souls out when they'll see Shanks true strength. Trolling aside, there's no real reason to downplay Shanks' strength like that. At least it's Shanks~Mihawk.
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@Buusatan94 @Jo_Ndule @Sentinel @playa4321 Ever wondered how come someone dared to attack Brulee, the daughter of Big Mom, that resulted in Katakuri covering his pelican eel like mouth? I saw someone in facebook pointed this out.

The year of Rocks' fall = the year they attacked Brulee (Brulee is 43 y.o now, and she was 5 when her face was scarred). So now this all makes sense. During the days after Rocks' fall, Big Mom must be at her weakest state. Thus some random local bullies had the nerve to attack her daughter.
I never thought about this possibility, I always thought these idiots were simply too cocky and thought they could even take on her children but it is indeed interesting that these bullies only attacked Big Mom's daughter when they knew she's at her weakest state...
 
about the other yonkos they talked about their strenght but about shanks they talked about his crew:josad:
check the chapter and see they don t call him a monster:suresure: like bm kaido
Because they didn’t need to talk about his strength. They were giving him a nod to his strength by talking about how he became a Yonko only six years prior and is the youngest of them. It would have been redundant.
Luffys Is called that off a mountain of lies. And EVERYONE knows that, nothing of tha sort has been said about Mihawk. Everytime we see him or he’s spoken of, nothing takes away from Tha fact that he’s tha WSS. No inverse speculation, no rumors, nothing. Also, Luffy is only 700mill begins Yonko Teach. And Teach is 2bill behind Shanks
It wasn’t based off of a mountain of lies. Most of what Morgans said was true, barring the part about his intelligence and him actually setting up the plan.

I never said that anything took away from his title, just that it wasn’t the be-all-end-all.
Who said Rocks was stronger then peak WB. The same Peak WB who later on Match Peak Roger. The conclusion you come too are ridiculous. Similar to how you think Mihawk stayed the same strength after he fought Shanks.
I never said he was, I said he probably was. It would be a fair assumption given that it took Garp and Roger to bring him down. But the point of that was to introduce that Whitebeard was the “World’s Strongest Man” despite that Roger and Garp were probably stronger based on their feats. Not by much, but still. It’s not a ridiculous conclusion, and I never said that Mihawk stayed the same strength, only that he didn’t grow near as much as Shanks did, which is factual given Shanks becoming a Yonko.
 
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Because they didn’t need to talk about his strength. They were giving him a nod to his strength by talking about how he became a Yonko only six years prior and is the youngest of them. It would have been redundant.

It wasn’t based off of a mountain of lies. Most of what Morgans said was true, barring the part about his intelligence and him actually setting up the plan.

I never said that anything took away from his title, just that it wasn’t the be-all-end-all.

I never said he was, I said he probably was. It would be a fair assumption given that it took Garp and Roger to bring him down. But the point of that was to introduce that Whitebeard was the “World’s Strongest Man” despite that Roger and Garp were probably stronger based on their feats. Not by much, but still. It’s not a ridiculous conclusion, and I never said that Mihawk stayed the same strength, only that he didn’t grow near as much as Shanks did, which is factual given Shanks becoming a Yonko.
Roger and Garp was not stronger then peak WB. They literally fought to a standstill. Buggy saw them fight in their peak. What dont yall get these guys grow.
 
Biggest takeaway from the entire chapter are not the bounties or Rocks history ...

... it's the fact that Wano is mysteriously tied deeply into the whole lore and history of the world, like Sengku mentioned in that last panel.
There is more to it than we've all expected so far. I bet it also has a lot to do with Toki and her origin in the ancient past (possibly void century).
 
Dragon probably has a higher bounty than Roger, I wasn't expecting that. I know he's directly opposing the Govt, but shouldn't Roger's be much higher seeing he did what the WG fears the most and discovered the secret of the void century, which WG considers the most forbidden thing to do. He also found Raftel, which no one had succeeded in doing before. Makes me wonder just what kinda beast Dragon really is .
 
Biggest takeaway from the entire chapter are not the bounties or Rocks history ...

... it's the fact that Wano is mysteriously tied deeply into the whole lore and history of the world, like Sengku mentioned in that last panel.
There is more to it than we've all expected so far. I bet it also has a lot to do with Toki and her origin in the ancient past (possibly void century).
Not to forget the God Valley which WG wanted to hide from everyone, and now they've erased the island itself... How does one hide a huge island, and what is hidden in that place..?
 
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