Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1139 Spoilers Discussion

[Albino 👑]

While If we being real Rayleigh > Gaban
Oda 100% loves his Sanji parallels lol

While he makes the zoro ones “cool and badass” you can tell how much more fun he has with writing Sanji compared to Zoro

Like Bentham vs daz bones or Queen vs king

Hell the only reason kaku is as interesting as he is is because he was originally supposed to be a Sanji fight lol
Jabra was supposed to be another daz/king situation before oda changed his mind and made both interesting

In real early concept of enies lobby kaku was originally planned to be a fight for sanji. Meaning jabra was more likely than not supposed to be zoro's fight

Sanji vs kaku making sense because like alot of sanji's opponents kaku is one of the more silly members of the group. Both in personality and design.
Along with original just not being a swordsman and mainly specializing in his kicks which he still kinda does tbh

Zoro vs jabra making sense because he was supposed to be one the more serious sides of things like alot of zoro's opponent's. His design being more typically seen as badass in comparison to kaku.
On top of that he also shares parallels to lucci aka luffy's fight like alot of zoro opponents also do. Jabra being a carnivorous zoan and leading his own group of cp9. If he fought zoro he would have definitely been made a swordsman

One Piece Green: Secret Pieces revealed an early concept of the CP9 and their fight match-ups with the Straw Hat Pirates. Originally, the match-ups were supposed to be:

• Lucci vs. Luffy
• Kalifa vs. Robin
• Fukurou vs. Nami
• Kaku vs. Sanji
• Shakiin (Jabra) vs. Zoro
• Apollo (Kumadori) vs. Chopper
• Blueno vs. Usopp

Low key kinda sad oda didn't go with original plan

1. Robin getting a fight would have been hella dope
2. Nami fighting a man would have been cool
3. Sanji vs kaku always seemed pretty hype pre enies lobby
4. Usopp getting a fight would be fun too

 

[Fujishiro]

C3 > Chicken King and Gaban rivals Garp and Sengoku

Old Rayleigh was stalling a Kizaru that had a mission. Prime Rayleigh> Kizaru. So Gaban > Kizaru and of course Roger > Kizaru.

 

[Moegara]

You quite literally point out why you are wrong.

CoC is inherent, haki isn't. Just like in Dragon Ball everybody can use Ki, but only a select few can be SSJ.

What about it being inherent? That's just you not liking a theme, which is subjective and doesn't make me wrong.

The comparison falls flat if you're going for things being inherent.

In Dragon Ball, characters who aren't saiyans can be as strong as saiyans by the simple logic of "another race can be inherently even stronger", like Frieza. Yamcha hasn't suddenly reached a saiyan's level.

It's different in One Piece where most characters are simply humans who share every potential except having CoC. They get up to mostly the same point in their prime if they're truly capable, and then aCoC takes them further ahead.

This complaint is closer to "The strongest tontatta can't match up to the strongest giant without a DF? That's shit".

 

[Finral Roulacase]

Gaban being the 3rd strongest is nice and Luffy crew being similar having 2 monsters behind the captain is okay

But no fucking need to make Gaban « minister of love » to parallel Sanji love personality / title etc
Hope they are quite different

he saw zolo wankers/sanji haters saying that Scopper’s a Jinbe/Nami parallel and decided it shut them down and give them a nice middle finger for the break weak

 

[soupongo]

Fandom
Roger~ray~gaban
But gaban>~garp &sengoku

This is just true though.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Sunbell > mihawk

You good tho? You can't even hide behind Nika/Joyboy because Shanks already tainted their hype...but Ryuma's is still untouched!

 

[moreha9685]

Wait so if Roger’s equal Whitebeard trashed the strongest admiral (Akainu) as a stage4 cancer patient who was weakened, does that mean Gaban can low diff the current fleet admiral since he’s equal

Damn, marine stocks have never been lower

Yet he didn't sense the HKs coming into the castle, but could sense the Sunny approach all the way from Egghead.

 

[Roo]

So Shamrock will fight Roger's equal, Yonko, 5 characters with billion bounty, Loki and Whole Elbaf

Shamrock is Madara of one piece

half moon

 

[MarineHQ]

So who do you think did Rayleigh and Gaban fight at God Valley?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

I wonder how many King put together Prime Sanji would be able to beat
a hundred?

Less one, one Prime King>roger=Gaban

 

[Hamlette]

Oda have done this multiple times
Hype a character to the moon and then tranfer that hype to another character

The issue here is you believing that Oda holds some different level of respect for Rayleigh that he wont give to Gaban. Rayleigh wasn't hype tooled or made to look pathetic. Gaban won't look like the strongest character in the series but he will be respected like his peer.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

What did he do ?
Getting pressed in his own fighting style by a non swordsman ?

" Even uncle Kizaru couldn't get past him ".

 

[SakazOuki]

Old Rayleigh was stalling a Kizaru that had a mission. Prime Rayleigh> Kizaru. So Gaban > Kizaru and of course Roger > Kizaru.

Stalled for 2 minutes
We have Yamato staling Kaido for an hour tread lightly

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

half moon

That's Nami

 

[Halyup]

Chadbeard pirates really fought this for 3 days

RP have multiple conqueros yet got stalled by WB pirates who only have 1 conqueror lol

 

[Nikuzi]

Member when "they" said that there's no such thing as a Left hand man

I member

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

We Zoro fans should push this agenda
It's the Luffy fans who should be insecure
Hahahaha

Why? Who was joking and making fun of Sanji Bros, wasn't candom fanbase, about Gaban.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

@MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung More Lord Karakuri wank King would never.

Roger level Rayleigh called Katakuri “among the mightiest in the world”

 

[Moegara]

While If we being real Rayleigh > Gaban

 

[SassySquatch]

LMAO Oda went out of his way to shit on the Zoro stans.