How strong is EOS Sanji?


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Colon = confirmed buccaneer? Was it just a mission of love or did Gaban actually have another thought mating with a giant in the beginning (until he saw Ripley)?

Does the buccaneers have some special power not yet shown? The boy might become a key player this arc similar to Aisa, Toko, Momo.

Also it will be interesting to find out exactly how much Rogers crew helped Luffy during various stages of his pirating career. They seem to still keep in touch somewhat (or more than we know)

Shanks - East Blue (met Rayleigh & Gaban)
Crocus - Reverse Mountain (met Gaban)
Rayleigh - Shabaody (met Shanks)
Gaban - Elbaf (met Crocus and Shanks)

We know they've guided Luffy from Start -- Entrance -- Midpoint -- Late Point

That leaves End Point. The only one fitting would be Roger himself and I suppose the only way to do it would be through a tone dial, a recorded message.
 
Is this a bigger L for Luffy fans or Zoro fans?

There were two main agendas at play here:
- one group pushing Gaban to be irrelevant cause he's Sanji parallel (mainly Zoro fans)
- two groups who were pushing Rayleigh/Gaban stuff (Sanji fans to uplift Sanji/Gaban to push wings, Luffy fans to downscale Rayleigh/Zoro to push wings)

Only for Gaban to be compared with both Roger and Rayleigh lmao.
Winners are obviously Sanji fans.

Who was the bigger loser?

Anyway, my take on this has been a constant - Roger/Rayleigh/Gaban are close in power, in same tier but separated by a sub tier. Don't think this chapter changed much other than reinforcing it, I don't consider this an absolute powerscaling statement but rather an indication that they are close in power.
 
Oden was said to stand shoulder to shoulder to wb and roger tho :willight:
So are Rayleigh and Gaban witht the difference that Lolden didnt make the full journey and also fucked off before the Roger pirates disbanded
But the twerkers of 999th clowns say much much stronger than gaban cause his jimmies are rustled cause liek always every thread he makes is clown show :josad:
 
This is a funny chapter, now i will discuss for real, this chapter shows a lot of things :

Firstly, Gaban is said to be the left-handman of Roger, a legendary figure, and mountain eater a title he got from cutting fucking trees :
In comparison, Rayleigh is introduced as Roger's right-hand man, partner, and vice-captain, bearing the title of "Dark King," for his strength following Roger's title as the "Pirate King."


To repeat their titles:
Pirate King = Standing above all pirates
Dark King = The King of Underworld ( Mei'Ou )
Mountain Eater = beating trees on a mountain

> Even the Straw Hats knew about Rayleigh in the same way they knew about Roger, yet they don't recognize Scopper :


> Scopper tried to attack a fodder like Road yet he dodged his attack :

> His presence is insignificant to Luffy and Zoro. Keep in mind that when Luffy was at Egghead, he was seen shivering from Kizaru's presence and even said someone strong was coming—something that wasn't observed with Old Gaban which makes his threat below Admiral level :


> The same Kizaru couldn't get past Old Rayleigh and complained about how the latter demanded more than this, which made him look bad. He became enraged afterward and vented his frustration on fodders.
That alone places Old Rayleigh on Admiral level as a threat, unlike Old Gaban :




> Gaban was so scared of Kaido that he didn't muster the courage to visit Wano because of his presence since years ago, the same Kaido Prime Oden was about to beat, same oden was said to be Whitebeard's commander :



> His best hype in Elbaf is holding his own against fodder giants, not Dorry or Broggy. Hell, Gaban allied with giants, yet they couldn't stop Loki, who is stated to have been caught by Shanks with no mention of Shanks having difficulty while doing so :





> Imagine having an army of giants and help from Old Rayleigh, who could completely stop Kizaru. His CoC was hyped to be on Shanks's level, and he had a Prime Emperor sweating and retreating in his presence—though it was known that the said emperor would win, but with a heavy cost yet you want me to believe he would fail to stop Loki with help, the same person who Shanks packed :




So in comparison :
> Old Rayleigh greatly surpasses Old Gaban in fame, strength, threat, portrayal, and even titles.
( mind you Oden didn't even mention his name in his diary unlike Rayleigh and Roger )

Pirate King = Standing above all pirates
Dark King = The King of Underworld ( Mei'Ou )
Mountain Eater = beating trees on a mountain

- As a bonus, These giants named FODDER like Usopp " God Usopp ", the Same losers who fell for "Yeah we got your chiefs in our prison come work for us for 100 years and we'll free them" with 0 proof :

- This made me think about that lie of Moria had an equal clash against Kaido :
> About the equal thing, It was also translated similarly with Oden but I don't know if it's the same kanji or not "肩を並べる" which means on par and equal if you search about it but Sandman denied this:
Anyway, this just shows how much of a fodder EoS Sanji would become when his parallel in old age and with the help of giants, he failed to stop Loki, who Shanks defeated.
And mind you, EoS Zoro is the WSS ever, and Luffy is going to be the Liberator Nika.
Even Old Rayleigh wouldn't be put like this in Elbaf, whose threat even makes admirals waver.

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Chill bro, relax. Our agenda of Zoro top 1/2 is secure. The strongest beyond the strongest, the very very very strongest, strongest swordsman of all time. Let the Sanji fans be happy, they were desperate for something like this, specially after Elbaph. We don't need to put Sanji down to make Zoro look better. Tbh I am happy that Sanji has some sort of benchmark for EOS now, before there was none, I mean he had Ivankov as his mentor, would be good for him to get some training from Scopper in Elbaph too.
The RPs are not 1:1 parallels, at the very least the Rayleigh: Zoro is not 1:1. Their personalities are different. Even in this chapter Luffy and Zoros recklessness is shown like Rogers while Ray and Gaban are shown careful like Sanji and others. The only thing this chapter confirms is that the M3 dynamic will remain in place. Either Sanji will be stronger than new members if they join like Loki/Yamato or they wont be part of the main crew. Jinbe being number 3 is gone.
 
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