How strong is EOS Sanji?


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I see it happening in here.

Maybe I'm biased because I'm for sure more of a Zoro fan more than Luffy or Sanji.

But this mentality that Sanji and Luffy fans seem to share. Always put Zoro = Sanji and way below Luffy. Makes me question whether they actually like those characters or just hate Zoro.

I mean I get it, some Zoro fans aren't doing themselves any favors by arguing.

Just take the win. Realistically it's just MC d riders who need to be brought down to earth with this chapter.
I'm with you 100%. Between Zoro fans who care too much about the Sanji stuff to even take the Luffy = Zoro W, and the haters who'll never acknowledge Zoro no matter what, it's mind numbing

I agree that the focus here should be on Luffy fans who think he can pinky diff his entire crew. It's been surprisingly quiet on that front
 
I'm with you 100%. Between Zoro fans who care too much about the Sanji stuff to even take the Luffy = Zoro W, and the haters who'll never acknowledge Zoro no matter what, it's mind numbing

I agree that the focus here should be on Luffy fans who think he can pinky diff his entire crew. It's been surprisingly quiet on that front
He can could take on the whole crew and win, G5 is that dumb
 
Lol noob, Jinbe above Sanji was based on Jinbe having higher bounty, Jinbe having better feats against top tiers.
Idk which takes you are counting, Zoro being conqueror maybe one of them.
Fuck, idk how long you been here but the Lucci thread that you linked is a pure agenda post. Both sides going extreme on hyping their agenda and downplaying the other. You will not find consistency in those things, they are pure agenda takes that we make to have fun and troll others. Nothing is personal here, we enjoy the shit show.
Can't believe I have to explain the WG culture of lately to you.
Then why you arguing with me and not accepting the jinbei take was clown take like the rest and move on? Cause we both know you will fold in 2 seconds if you trying to enforce bounty hirerarchy throught he entire series on every org?
:choppawhat: Also obviously is not personal im not the guy that is calling people retarded all the time like certain individuals here :josad:
 
And I even think their old self kinda implies it further. Old Rayleigh gets comparable portrayal to top tiers while admitting inferiority to Teach due to old age
Old Rayleigh's being below Teach WHO DIDN'T WANT HIS SMOKE since even if he won, it would be with a great cost.

Unlike Loki who Shanks caught with no mention of having any difficulty to do so and loki fought Gaban yet the latter lost unlike Teach who's stronger than him would have lost a limb fighting rayleigh.

Old Rayleigh could stop Kizaru on his track and have him crying which makes him having an admiral threat level.

Whereas Gaban was with Giants, yet he failed to stop Loki, let me guess :
Rayleigh ( Admiral threat level ) who could stop Kizaru on his track had help from giants and couldn't stop Loki?
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That's because Gaban had never been introduced to the main story.

The same happened with Rayleigh he was a nobody and then he got introduced and we started learning more about him.

This outcome isn't surprising since we had the m3 dynamic to support Gaban being a monster.
That's the thing. Sanji's track record didn't exactly spell out Luffy lvl. With Zoro I can certainly have made that argument. Given how they are usually grouped together (Supernova, Rooftop 5, AdCoC).

Zoro was also grouped with Sanji, but Sanji had nothing on Luffy. There is hardly a dynamic there, it's either Sanji is the odd man out (SN,R5,CoC), or both Zoro and Sanji are. M3 has some merit because for majority of the story the gap between Sanji and the 4th was far bigger than Luffy to Sanji.

So following the M3 blueprint I definitely expected Gaban to be strong because it's true Sanji is much stronger than the usual Nr 2s, but never placed on the same pedestal as Roger. This came out of left field, no one was predicting this not even Sanji fans, not to this extent.



If anything , being as legendary as the fuckin pirate king while being his subordinate is greater wank than being = to his individual strength .

the entire story is abt surpassing Roger’s legend , not his individual strength .
Exactly. Roger's legend is the single most impressive thing about Roger. And he is unrivalled in this aspect. Lmfao at people tryna cope by placing Gaban's legend on par with Roger's, that's as you just said even worse for Roger. Far as we know this dude begged his way to the PK title, his legend is his claim to fame even moreso than his combat strength.
 
I'm with you 100%. Between Zoro fans who care too much about the Sanji stuff to even take the Luffy = Zoro W, and the haters who'll never acknowledge Zoro no matter what, it's mind numbing

I agree that the focus here should be on Luffy fans who think he can pinky diff his entire crew. It's been surprisingly quiet on that front
Luffy fans evoperated after the Mcdonalds SbS dropped
They coming back only after luffy defeats shammy or loki or something
 
You're mistaking Loki and shanks hype for Gaban slander. Gaban knows Luffy defeated Kaido and yet he's s skeptical that luffy and emperor like teach can stop him.

Then it says that only Shanks can stop him.
He talked about "rumors". I think he is just trying to Test Luffy and see if the rumors are true or not. And eventhen, it's a game of tag and he is probably very confident in his evasive abilities likely due to his observation haki
 
It's not saying his legend is on par with Roger and Rayleigh

He IS the legend on par with Roger and Rayleigh

2 different things
Why would he have a rivalry with his own captain? Are you ok in the head?

The last passage is being translated as being on par with Roger. Lmfao being on par with Roger as a legend makes far less sense because not even WB is on par with the Pirate King himself as a legendary figure. You're out of excuses.
Legend is a relatively broad term.

We already saw this when Garp compared Whitebeard to Rayleigh.
 
That's the thing. Sanji's track record didn't exactly spell out Luffy lvl. With Zoro I can certainly have made that argument. Given how they are usually grouped together (Supernova, Rooftop 5, AdCoC).

Zoro was also grouped with Sanji, but Sanji had nothing on Luffy. There is hardly a dynamic there, it's either Sanji is the odd man out (SN,R5,CoC), or both Zoro and Sanji are. M3 has some merit because for majority of the story the gap between Sanji and the 4th was far bigger than Luffy to Sanji.

So following the M3 blueprint I definitely expected Gaban to be strong because it's true Sanji is much stronger than the usual Nr 2s, but never placed on the same pedestal as Roger. This came out of left field, no one was predicting this not even Sanji fans, not to this extent.




Exactly. Roger's legend is the single most impressive thing about Roger. And he is unrivalled in this aspect. Lmfao at people tryna cope by placing Gaban's legend on par with Roger's, that's as you just said even worse for Roger. Far as we know this dude begged his way to the PK title, his legend is his claim to fame even moreso than his combat strength.
I've said it before, saobody had the m3 as peers and stated it wouldn't be different come eos.

Fans get to caught him in the minor details and can't see the bigger picture.
 
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