General & Others Can Scopper teach the Strawhats how to damage the gorosei? It would also be nice if he could train Sanji like Ray did Luffy and Mihawk Zoro.

#25
Is Scopper a good candidate to train Sanji while he is in Elbaph so that he can stop being so far behind?

Does he have the secrets needed to damage the gorosei?
This is my biggest crux with the latest chapter if Sanji is meant to close the cataclysmic gap between Luffy and Zoro, he’d need to train maybe that’s what Scopper is there to do? But even so after that Luffy and Zoro will continue to grow …
 
#27
What I want to point out is that he had to have walked past the same magic circle as them, knows the castle looks different because he has been there before, and still did not mention the magic circle at all or seem to stop and take serious time to examine it.

My theory is that he did in fact destroy or erase it, and that he knows who is coming, which is giving him ulterior motives to allow them to free Loki since he is aware of the new variable of the GK who are a major threat.
@Jesse Pinkman
 
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#33
From the man that dubbed ‘I’m not a Sanji hater’ 😂
Another week another Sanji diss track 🤣

Sanji is weak so he needs training from Scopper to catch up to Luffy & Zoro’s training over the timeskip? 🫤 Did Sanji not recieve training from Ivankov like Luffy & Zoro did from their respective teachers or you think coz Ivankov isn’t as strong as those two then Sanji’s training was null & void or sumin.

Anyways, if any one is gonna receive training from Scopper it’d most likely be Luffy. Sanji will get progressively stronger relative to Luffy & Zoro as the series progresses has as always been the case.
 
#34
From the man that dubbed ‘I’m not a Sanji hater’ 😂
Another week another Sanji diss track 🤣

Sanji is weak so he needs training from Scopper to catch up to Luffy & Zoro’s training over the timeskip? 🫤 Did Sanji not recieve training from Ivankov like Luffy & Zoro did from their respective teachers or you think coz Ivankov isn’t as strong as those two then Sanji’s training was null & void or sumin.

Anyways, if any one is gonna receive training from Scopper it’d most likely be Luffy. Sanji will get progressively stronger relative to Luffy & Zoro as the series progresses has as always been the case.
Dragon found the Rev Army alongside Ivankov, she is more than enough to train Sanji and make him grow tougher, as he did.

Blud thinks like Rayleigh and Mihawk somehow transferred their strength to Luffy and Zoro to the point they came out of the timeskip as Top tiers (when they certainly got the overall same treatment Sanji did)

But not a Sanji hater, definitely
 
#35
From the man that dubbed ‘I’m not a Sanji hater’ 😂
Another week another Sanji diss track 🤣

Sanji is weak so he needs training from Scopper to catch up to Luffy & Zoro’s training over the timeskip? 🫤 Did Sanji not recieve training from Ivankov like Luffy & Zoro did from their respective teachers or you think coz Ivankov isn’t as strong as those two then Sanji’s training was null & void or sumin.

Anyways, if any one is gonna receive training from Scopper it’d most likely be Luffy. Sanji will get progressively stronger relative to Luffy & Zoro as the series progresses has as always been the case.
The bigger issue is dude straight up missed the point of using Ivankov.

Sanjis and Zoros timeskip training was literally a foil to Luffys whereas Zoros and Luffys were about both being trained by top tier fighters Sanjis and Luffys were about training via survival in an island full of monsters stronger than them where both left the islands as the top of the food chain.
 
#36
Bogard without a doubt will train Luffy.

It seems he may have been among the people who tried to get Loki under control seeing as he seems to be aware of his abilities already.

So, he'll likely test Luffy but also show him something that will be very important when Luffy ends up fighting Loki.


Edit: Scopper will end up tricking Luffy a lot in this fight imo. There must be an important message that he gets out of this especially if Loki's abilities are not only physical but centered in illusions as well.
 
#37
Is Scopper a good candidate to train Sanji
Yes, but Oda didn't plan for them to meet. How long you expecting this arc to go btw?
Does he have the secrets needed to damage the gorosei?
That might actually be something spot on. Oda must have a reason for including Roger pirate so late in the story, either he's to teach them something or impart some knowledge to them. Later was already rejected by Luffy in Saboady when Ray could've told them. So it comes back to first, or Poneglyps hint.

Luffy failing to actually Damage Gorosie, is something they do need help with. There's not many in Onepiece World that can help with that, but Old Legends.
 
#38
We are well past training arcs.

The only thing I want to see is the other SHPs learning basic Haki abilities. I don't need all of them to learn both, but come on. We're at the point where I want to see some improvement, not just adding members that already have it.

Usopp - CoA and CoO
Chopper - CoC, CoA and CoO
Robin - CoA and CoO
Franky - CoA

I'd be fine with Nami having CoO or none at all.
 
#39
Saturn said "it's been a long time" when he showed himself up in Egghead so that means most likely no one knows the weakness of Gorosei/God Knights other than Imu, Shanks and Mihawk who are also above Roger pirates. Zero chance the SH will be in that level (except Luffy and Zoro plotwise).

If it was Shamrock who scarred Whitebeard and Garling putting up a fight in God Valley then it's beyond what Gaban is capable of.
 
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#40
At his age, being retired and seemingly having grown old and frail (75-79 years old) I highly doubt he can take more than 2 big attacks from Luffy or run around playing tag more than 10 minutes. However it doesn't stop him from being able to have all of the old man techniques (Neptune, Hyogoro, Rayleigh, Gan Fall, Lao G).

If he could teach Sanji anything apart from haki I would love for him to teach him some axe technique.

Sanji should be somewhat of a natural with sharp weapons and it would automatically boost his attack power by 50 %. All of a sudden he would have sharp weapons comparable to swords for offense and defense, he would be able to use his upper body without using his hands directly and he would add ranged attacks to Sanji - the only character I know off that doesnt have any after 1000+ chapters.
 
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