General & Others Can Scopper teach the Strawhats how to damage the gorosei? It would also be nice if he could train Sanji like Ray did Luffy and Mihawk Zoro.

#41
Yes, but Oda didn't plan for them to meet. How long you expecting this arc to go btw?

That might actually be something spot on. Oda must have a reason for including Roger pirate so late in the story, either he's to teach them something or impart some knowledge to them. Later was already rejected by Luffy in Saboady when Ray could've told them. So it comes back to first, or Poneglyps hint.

Luffy failing to actually Damage Gorosie, is something they do need help with. There's not many in Onepiece World that can help with that, but Old Legends.
Yeah I’d imagine if anyone has the secret to their ability it’s Scopper and Rayleigh. I can’t see another way for them to learn how to damage them. Unless they can only be damage through Imu being damaged.

I think the pacing is a lot better so maybe 50 - 60 chapters.
 
#42
Dragon found the Rev Army alongside Ivankov, she is more than enough to train Sanji and make him grow tougher, as he did.

Blud thinks like Rayleigh and Mihawk somehow transferred their strength to Luffy and Zoro to the point they came out of the timeskip as Top tiers (when they certainly got the overall same treatment Sanji did)

But not a Sanji hater, definitely
It’s like saying Zoro came out the strongest of the 3 post-ts coz he had the strongest teacher or that Sanji was significantly stronger than Zoro pre-ts coz he had the stronger mentor. It’s an incredibly daft take.

It’s like mofos on here can only think linearly 💀. Sanji needs training coz of the imaginary gap I’ve created in my head. Same bullshit mofos were saying prior to Wano. Sanji’s Armament is weak so he will fight a Tobi Roppo blah blah. If Sanji doesn’t improve his Haki he’d left behind. Next cope after that now is advanced Haki, Sanji doesn’t have advanced CoA or CoC so he’s miles behind. This is the same Sanji that has already awakened another power up in ‘power of love’ was man-handling a Seraphim on Egghead, no-sold a full on Punch from Sera-Jinbe & extinguished Kiz’s laser with bloody kick (i.e. show me a panel of advanced Haki doing that shit :seriously:) but no the gap!!! training!!! :whitepress:
 
#43
It’s like saying Zoro came out the strongest of the 3 post-ts coz he had the strongest teacher or that Sanji was significantly stronger than Zoro pre-ts coz he had the stronger mentor. It’s an incredibly daft take.

It’s like mofos on here can only think linearly 💀. Sanji needs training coz of the imaginary gap I’ve created in my head. Same bullshit mofos were saying prior to Wano. Sanji’s Armament is weak so he will fight a Tobi Roppo blah blah. If Sanji doesn’t improve his Haki he’d left behind. Next cope after that now is advanced Haki, Sanji doesn’t have advanced CoA or CoC so he’s miles behind. This is the same Sanji that has already awakened another power up in ‘power of love’ was man-handling a Seraphim on Egghead, no-sold a full on Punch from Sera-Jinbe & extinguished Kiz’s laser with bloody kick (i.e. show me a panel of advanced Haki doing that shit :seriously:) but no the gap!!! training!!! :whitepress:
Rayleigh himself even said 2 years of training wouldn't be enough to even make Luffy learn future sight, so what makes someone think Zoro and Luffy came out with much more skills than Sanji tbh? Sanji was struggling with regular okama people, so imagine how strong Ivankov can trully be
 
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