Le Fishe Thread R.I.P Yonko Lvl Gaban
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Luffy zoro sanji, oldbeard Marco jozu, Kaido king queen, Roger Rayleigh Gaban are all the same shit
Zoro and Sanji stand shoulder to shoulder with Luffy like they always have. Nothing changed and nothing is changing
Since the start of paradise
To the end of it
The start of the timeskip
Why make up an argument to get yourself upset
Oden ~ kaido > Linlin
Me wanting her (and Kaido) to return stronger doesn’t change how strong they were prior
Zoro and Sanji stand shoulder to shoulder with Luffy like they always have. Nothing changed and nothing is changing
Since the start of paradise
To the end of it
The start of the timeskip
Most shameless ones are Linlin wankers who use that panel like gospel. Noodle and Albino will tell you that panel is Kaido's undeniable Top 5 but Linlin>>>>Oden, please don't ask questions. 
Oden ~ kaido > Linlin
Me wanting her (and Kaido) to return stronger doesn’t change how strong they were prior
Should have not compared them in the chapter and put in sunbell than roger, is not like they are named roger pirates that are lacking to make that
Your opinions are trash 😂 At least Sandman used raws to back up Jinbei-Arlong thing. What do you have bozo?
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give it up man. Take it with oda 
Then why did he not go to Wano when Kaido was there? Even then the fear part is not even my main point. The point is that his statement inferred inferiority to Kaido...same as what Greenbull did.
No context actually proves the opposite which is that he couldn't go to Wano because Kaido was there
That part has nothing to do with my point though. Besides Roger and Garp who we know fought Rox, we don't know anything about any other matchups
I am saying that Gaban couldn't go to Wano because he is inferior to Kaido. He fears Loki's release and yet you argue that he doesn't fear that Kaido would kill him.
Whitebeard never feared for himself against Kaido
No context actually proves the opposite which is that he couldn't go to Wano because Kaido was there
That part has nothing to do with my point though. Besides Roger and Garp who we know fought Rox, we don't know anything about any other matchups
I am saying that Gaban couldn't go to Wano because he is inferior to Kaido. He fears Loki's release and yet you argue that he doesn't fear that Kaido would kill him.
Whitebeard never feared for himself against Kaido
In my mind it goes Roger >= Rayleigh >= Gaban
I think they're all supposed to be fairly close in strength
If Roger were to fight Rayleigh he would have a tough time but he would come out the victor
If Rayleigh were to fight Gaban he would have a tough time but he would come out the victor
I think that statement is supposed to confirm that Gaban is also a top tier not necessarily that's he's dead equal with Roger and Rayleigh
I think they're all supposed to be fairly close in strength
If Roger were to fight Rayleigh he would have a tough time but he would come out the victor
If Rayleigh were to fight Gaban he would have a tough time but he would come out the victor
I think that statement is supposed to confirm that Gaban is also a top tier not necessarily that's he's dead equal with Roger and Rayleigh
I look up 肩を並べた and found it has two definition
1 shoulder to shoulder. , 2 to be on a par with
https://www.japandict.com/肩を並べる?lang=eng
if you did google to search definition you get similar ar answer as to be par with (equal).
I ask chatgta to list all definitions of this Japanese text
Here is my chargpt answer
The Japanese phrase **肩を並べた (kata wo narabeta)** can be understood in the following ways, depending on the context. Here are the definitions:
1. **Shoulder to shoulder**: This can refer to people standing side by side or working together, often symbolizing unity or equality.
2. **On equal footing**: It can mean that two or more people or entities are now at the same level or status, having achieved a similar level of success or ability.
3. **To compete with**: In some contexts, this could mean to be on par with someone, often in a competitive or comparative sense, like "competing shoulder to shoulder."
The meaning of the phrase is highly dependent on the context in which it is used.
End of chatgpt
Don’t take my word just google or research for yourself.
1 shoulder to shoulder. , 2 to be on a par with
https://www.japandict.com/肩を並べる?lang=eng
if you did google to search definition you get similar ar answer as to be par with (equal).
I ask chatgta to list all definitions of this Japanese text
Here is my chargpt answer
The Japanese phrase **肩を並べた (kata wo narabeta)** can be understood in the following ways, depending on the context. Here are the definitions:
1. **Shoulder to shoulder**: This can refer to people standing side by side or working together, often symbolizing unity or equality.
2. **On equal footing**: It can mean that two or more people or entities are now at the same level or status, having achieved a similar level of success or ability.
3. **To compete with**: In some contexts, this could mean to be on par with someone, often in a competitive or comparative sense, like "competing shoulder to shoulder."
The meaning of the phrase is highly dependent on the context in which it is used.
End of chatgpt
Don’t take my word just google or research for yourself.
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Why wouldn’t I believe it?
It’s been heavily implied that Rayleigh in his prime is > current Yonko Blackbeard
Which puts him in the same tier as some of the stronger modern Yonko (Kaido, Big Mom, Shanks, etc)
Unless you believe Roger could mollywhop the previous Yonko there’s no reason to believe he’s significantly stronger than Rayleigh
A fight between them is high or extreme diff minimum in Roger’s favor
The difference in strength between Roger and Rayleigh is the same as the difference in strength between Rayleigh and Gaban
Unless you genuinely believe Roger would bully Rayleigh in a fight
It’s been heavily implied that Rayleigh in his prime is > current Yonko Blackbeard
Which puts him in the same tier as some of the stronger modern Yonko (Kaido, Big Mom, Shanks, etc)
Unless you believe Roger could mollywhop the previous Yonko there’s no reason to believe he’s significantly stronger than Rayleigh
A fight between them is high or extreme diff minimum in Roger’s favor
The difference in strength between Roger and Rayleigh is the same as the difference in strength between Rayleigh and Gaban
Unless you genuinely believe Roger would bully Rayleigh in a fight