Speculations Who will have a higher bounty, Oden or Gaban?

[Sir Yasheen]

It's not like that imho.
Take the strawhat crew, another with that dynamic: only Luffy and Zoro were above the 100 million benchmark; not Sanji.

Furthermore, now Zoro and Sanji are quite close, but throughout the manga they were quite distant (for the numbers of the time):

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If you want to push Ray and Gaban near, even though I don't think they'll be, you can, but imho Ray will always be a "threshold" above Gaban.

Zoro is 1.111 and Sanji 1.032. People used these same “threshold” arguments about Zoro getting a 10 digit bounty before Sanji did.

This is also the first time they got the same number of bounty boosts at the same time. It doesn’t matter about what the bounties were when Sanji was getting his first bounty and Zoro his second. Now when both received their fourth bounty it’s under 100 million apart.

 

[Worst]

Gaban's is higher ofc, he is alive and knows how to get to Laugh Tale & what the OP is all about....

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

For starsters, present Kaido > that Kaido.
Pre-Nika Luffy, who had a few feats more than Oden, meaning FS and skyplitting, was not even close to beat present Kaido; he needed a whole power up more.

Yeah, that's why I think that Oden doesn't have a 4+ bil bounty.

But more so, bounties in general drop the further from the top you are. That's why captain level dudes usually don't get the bounties they would get if they were themselves captains.
In Roger's crew, Ray was the RHM, Oden and Gaban were even further down the line.

If Oden was captain of an Emperor crew, then why not; 4B could have been the number, even though I would have given him a 3,5-4 range.

Oden wasn't quite a subordinate to Roger, he was a guest. He was a subordinate of Whitebeard indeed, but WB considered him more like a brother than a "son". That's why he didn't return to Whitebeard after going to Laugh Tale, his duty was on Wano.

I mean, Law was at the strawhats' expense for his whole route from his 440 million bounty until his 3 bil bounty and he still got much more than Zoro. Do you think that Law is that much stronger than Zoro (or Sanji, not sure which one is your favorite 😅)?

 

[Dragon777]

Zoro is 1.111 and Sanji 1.032. People used these same “threshold” arguments about Zoro getting a 10 digit bounty before Sanji did.

This is also the first time they got the same number of bounty boosts at the same time. It doesn’t matter about what the bounties were when Sanji was getting his first bounty and Zoro his second. Now when both received their fourth bounty it’s under 100 million apart.

Respectable, but tbh I think the whole WC thing was a bit unique because Zoro wasn't even there. In Wano they both got an increase, and Zoro edged out.
Imho, at the next occasion Zoro will return to be quite ahead as it has always been bar from WC-Wano.

Let's see anyway.

And obv., the same you could say for the Sanji-Jinbe thing: imho, shortly Sanji will leave Jinbe quite in the dust.

Yeah, that's why I think that Oden doesn't have a 4+ bil bounty.

3B is possibile, even though not probable imho.

Oden wasn't quite a subordinate to Roger, he was a guest. He was a subordinate of Whitebeard indeed, but WB considered him more like a brother than a "son". That's why he didn't return to Whitebeard after going to Laugh Tale, his duty was on Wano.

I mean, Law was at the strawhats' expense for his whole route from his 440 million bounty until his 3 bil bounty and he still got much more than Zoro. Do you think that Law is that much stronger than Zoro (or Sanji, not sure which one is your favorite 😅)?

Sengoklu said Oden was "recruited" by Roger, while, for the better or worse, Law was considered a on his own.

Also the bounty distribution of Wano is weirdly generic in the first place: they have just made Kaido + BM / 3.

 

[Rumble]

Y’all mfers STILL acting like bounties represent power levels. That’s crazy.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Respectable, but tbh I think the whole WC thing was a bit unique because Zoro wasn't even there. In Wano they both got an increase, and Zoro edged out.
Imho, at the next occasion Zoro will return to be quite ahead as it has always been bar from WC-Wano.

Let's see anyway.

And obv., the same you could say for the Sanji-Jinbe thing: imho, shortly Sanji will leave Jinbe quite in the dust.



3B is possibile, even though not probable imho.


Sengoklu said Oden was "recruited" by Roger, while, for the better or worse, Law was considered a on his own.

Also the bounty distribution of Wano is weirdly generic in the first place: they have just made Kaido + BM / 3.

Well yes but Jinbes bounty is just like when Robins and Usopps bounty was above Sanjis, the next boost Sanji surpassed it and then some.

Zoros not going to separate from Sanjis anymore cause for the first time they got the same number of bounty boosts at the same time it’s similar.

Oda didn’t even plan to make the 100 million benchmark initially anyways, that was an editor addition in Sabaody.

 

[Ven437]

Sengoklu said Oden was "recruited" by Roger, while, for the better or worse, Law was considered a on his own.

Also the bounty distribution of Wano is weirdly generic in the first place: they have just made Kaido + BM / 3.

Except any genuine Roger flashback by Ray or Gaban doesn’t include Oden. The core members was always Gold Silver Copper trio. Oden was a guest this is how clear Oda made it

Oden’s hype is already established by WB himself, if someone like Oden can’t beat Kaido then it would take massive casualties. Plus Ray and Gaban wanted to 2v1 him that’s how dangerous he was

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

WG been wary of invading Wano before Oden considering they had hundreds of years to do it

Yeah, mainly due to Ryuma's legend. But they did knew that Oden was the "current" main force of Wano (yeah, they didn't knew that he was dead already)...

Spoiler: Chapter 957

 

[Toryu]

More than Loki, less than Shanks.

I don't see any of those guys clearing the 4B

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Gaban. He was an active pirate for much longer and more recognizable than oden. Oden was mainly known as 2nd commander of WBPs.

Gaban was in PK crew.

 

[Welkin]

I feel like logically it should be Gaban since everyone (apparently) knows him and Oden was somewhat forgotten

But then again you never know

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Depends on if EOS sanji will still be treated as the dark horse of the strawhats

 

[Dragon777]

Well yes but Jinbes bounty is just like when Robins and Usopps bounty was above Sanjis, the next boost Sanji surpassed it and then some.

Zoros not going to separate from Sanjis anymore cause for the first time they got the same number of bounty boosts at the same time it’s similar.

Oda didn’t even plan to make the 100 million benchmark initially anyways, that was an editor addition in Sabaody.

We'll see.

I expect in the long run they'll be on their own tier of bounties, but we'll know after Erbaf for starters.

Oden’s hype is already established by WB himself, if someone like Oden can’t beat Kaido then it would take massive casualties. Plus Ray and Gaban wanted to 2v1 him that’s how dangerous he was

Oden was strong, but that Oden didn't know AdvCoC and so was likely weaker than present Zoro or someone like Yamato.

Prime Ray and Gaban were far above that. We are about to witness, likely, Old Gaban (not even prime Gaban) flexing on Luffy and Zoro

 

[Rumble]

It should be impossible for Waban to have a higher bounty than the leader of a nation.

In terms of strength they're probably on par.

 

[Dragon777]

It should be impossible for Waban to have a higher bounty than the leader of a nation.

In terms of strength they're probably on par.

I don't think that Oden was counted ad such since Wano was a closed country.

 

[Rumble]

I don't think that Oden was counted ad such since Wano was a closed country.

Do you doubt the WG knew who he was?

 

[Dragon777]

Do you doubt the WG knew who he was?

Yeah, I don't think they knew much about the Samurai named Oden other than he was from Wano.

I mean, even now they know very little. At least outside their shady business with Orochi.

 

[Rumble]

Yeah, I don't think they knew much about the Samurai named Oden other than he was from Wano.

I mean, even now they know very little. At least outside their shady business with Orochi.

Dawg, even if they had no inkling of what's going on within Wano, you sincerely think they wouldn't recognise his last name?

 

[Dragon777]

Dawg, even if they had no inkling of what's going on within Wano, you sincerely think they wouldn't recognise his last name?

Maybe, but It wouldn't be the first time.

I am saying this because Akainu basically told us they simply don't know much about Wano (which is stupid, since they had Drake here). However, It seems to me this Is how Oda wanted to play it.

No one basically ever mentioned Oden being politically powerful outside Wano so I think It wasn't a known information.

I mean, WB didn't even know he died for quite some time. Information don't circulate.

 

[Rumble]

Maybe, but It wouldn't be the first time.

I am saying this because Akainu basically told us they simply don't know much about Wano (which is stupid, since they had Drake here). However, It seems to me this Is how Oda wanted to play it.

No one basically ever mentioned Oden being politically powerful outside Wano so I think It wasn't a known information.

I mean, WB didn't even know he died for quite some time. Information don't circulate.

Marines don't set the bounties. The WG does.

The Marines are only told what they need to know.

Oden isn't politically powerful outside of Wano for any reason other than his relationship with Whitebeard. He is still nevertheless a powerful figure because he could muster Wano's forces if needed.